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This aint even a dem thing. All affiliations are off the table. This is about whether or not you are being suckered by the biggest fraud in political history.

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Carriers union leader is himself telling you that it was a dog n pony show. He is telling you flat out that Trump is lying on so many levels. Trump himself blatantly told you that a deal such as his was a detriment to our country. Yet still he is championed for it. Such blind faith. Amazing. Just amazing. He is better than Copperfield. Ill give him that.

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[quote=punch it in;1158163]This aint even a dem thing. All affiliations are off the table. This is about whether or not you are being suckered by the biggest fraud in political history.[/quote]

Go ahead...assume the worst, I'm sure you will either way because you're so livid.
You wont know for sure anyway for four...I mean eight years.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1158165]Go ahead...assume the worst, I'm sure you will either way because you're so livid.

You wont know for sure anyway for four...I mean eight years.[/QUOTE]



Don't be so presumptuous. I am talking about a deal that was already done. I am talking about cabinet positions that were already filled. I am not "assuming " anything. The lies I am talking about are lies that have been told since the campaign started. Could Trump do a complete 180? Sure. Anything is possible. Oh and I am not in the slightest bit livid. That has always been a neat little way for you smug little hardliners to end a debate without having to use facts.

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[quote=punch it in;1158167]Don't be so presumptuous. I am talking about a deal that was already done. I am talking about cabinet positions that were already filled. I am not "assuming " anything. The lies I am talking about are lies that have been told since the campaign started. Could Trump do a complete 180? Sure. Anything is possible. Oh and I am not in the slightest bit livid. That has always been a neat little way for you smug little hardliners to end a debate without having to use facts.[/quote]

Hardliner, best liner.

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Cannot wait to hear all the praise about trump being named man of the year? I can only imagine how the trumpers will not understand that this is a "for better or for worse" award. Only a matter of time before Hitler, Stalin, and the ayatollah Khomeini did not really win this award. Those were names added to the list by Obamas fake news agency. Lol

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Back to the recount. Looks like Michigan's will end assuming the state Supreme Court upholds the appellate judges decision:
[url]http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/12/07/federal-judge-halts-michigan-election-recount/95110008/[/url]

And 82 vote net gain for HC with 70% recounted also seems to put a nail in Wisconsin's recount.

[url=http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/wisconsin-recount-results-day-7-6-update-progress-status-numbers-totals-st-croix-waukesha-fake-news-fraud-totals-status-new-news-latest-laws-rules-michigan/#amph=1]heavy.com[/url]



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Relax punch. Only 3years, 11 months to the next election.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158192]Relax punch. Only 3years, 11 months to the next election.

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Might not have to wait that long. If the right people discover that he is certifiably insane I think they can remove him,.....fingers crossed,...

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1158195]Might not have to wait that long. If the right people discover that he is certifiably insane I think they can remove him,.....fingers crossed,...[/QUOTE]
Well then you would have Pence

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158202]Well then you would have pence

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Yes I realize that the current regime is like a snake whose head will just keep growing back, but that is what it is.
Pence is Equally as scary, but at least I consider him an adult. Sort of.

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[quote=punch it in;1158204]Yes I realize that the current regime is like a snake whose head will just keep growing back, but that is what it is.
Pence is Equally as scary, but at least I consider him an adult. Sort of.[/quote]

Man the tin foil hat and the fear you have is amazing.

Im starting to think its gonna be more bau in Washington than most....which I guess this is what you want?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1158207]Man the tin foil hat and the fear you have is amazing.



Im starting to think its gonna be more bau in Washington than most....which I guess this is what you want?[/QUOTE]


Oh no way a cliche statement about the left being afraid. Im not even going to get into this with you. I fear nothing. That is number one. I call them scary as in they are going to set us back a hundred years not because im afraid of them. Donald Trump is not only a scumbag, but he is a scumbag that has no idea what it takes to be potus.
And stop with the tough guy bomb the shit out of them bullshit. It is so corny. If you are so all about that go enlist.
What kind of mixed signals is my tinfoil hat picking up exactly Chico? Trump is not childish? Really ? Dont worry about my tinfoil hat. Worry about those big ole blinders you got on.

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I mean i get a real kick out of all of the internet soldiers. I really do. If you dont like this country leave! You pussy! Be a real man and post memes about hillary! Yeah!
Get the fuck outta here.

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[quote=punch it in;1158208]Oh no way a cliche statement about the left being afraid. Im not even going to get into this with you. I fear nothing. That is number one. [B]I call them scary as in they are going to set us back a hundred years not because im afraid of them.[/B] Donald Trump is not only a scumbag, but he is a scumbag that has no idea what it takes to be potus.
And stop with the tough guy bomb the shit out of them bullshit. It is so corny. If you are so all about that go enlist.[/quote]

Has nothing to do about the left or right. "Set us back a hundred years" isn't cliché? What is gonna be set back or how? A

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1158210]Has nothing to do about the left or right. "Set us back a hundred years" isn't cliché? What is gonna be set back or how? A[/QUOTE]



Civil rights, gay marriage, freedom of choice,the fucking environment. Small potatoes. I know. Anyway im running late for work that is all i could come up with on short notice.
Toodles. Weak little leftist tree hugging lib crybaby out.....

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I want to take a minute here to recommend a CNN show that I thought was very well hosted by Van Jones.

It was an attempt to pierce through the bubbles that we all live in. In it he had a segment with an Ohio family that 2 times voted for Pres Obama (they were white) and this time the husband and sons voted for Trump, while the wife voted straight democrat except no vote for president; a town hall style question answer session with Rick Santorum that attempted to address concerns about what Trump/Republicans may do about various issues; and finished with a similar though shorter segment with Michael Moore.

I give Van Jones (the man who initially called the results a "whitelash") a LOT of credit as he truly tried to moderate an opening dialog that I think this country sorely needs.

I give less credit to Santorum and Moore, who like the political beings they are really couldn't step outside of their bubbles more than just a few words and really hear what was being said.

Anyways I imagine CNN will have rebroadcasts, and I highly recommend it.

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Would like to see it. Thanks!

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158219]I want to take a minute here to recommend a CNN show that I thought was very well hosted by Van Jones.



It was an attempt to pierce through the bubbles that we all live in. In it he had a segment with an Ohio family that 2 times voted for Pres Obama (they were white) and this time the husband and sons voted for Trump, while the wife voted straight democrat except no vote for president; a town hall style question answer session with Rick Santorum that attempted to address concerns about what Trump/Republicans may do about various issues; and finished with a similar though shorter segment with Michael Moore.



I give Van Jones (the man who initially called the results a "whitelash") a LOT of credit as he truly tried to moderate an opening dialog that I think this country sorely needs.



I give less credit to Santorum and Moore, who like the political beings they are really couldn't step outside of their bubbles more than just a few words and really hear what was being said.



Anyways I imagine CNN will have rebroadcasts, and I highly recommend it.[/QUOTE]


I saw it too, I hope it becomes a regular show, Santorum telling that woman who is undocumented she should leave was just downright painful.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1158229]I saw it too, I hope it becomes a regular show, Santorum telling that woman who is undocumented she should leave was just downright painful.[/QUOTE]
I agree that was one of the moments you could see he just wasn't answering her words he was answering to talking points. I did think he nearly stepped out and saw it right before the segment ended.

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Wisconsin recertified their vote, with Trump gaining 162 votes, that puts all 3 Stein recounts to bed. And minus the one Republican faithless elector, gives Trump a 305 - 232 expected win (I expect the Democratic "faithless" electors ultimately will vote for HC). Time to get the show on the road...

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158738]Wisconsin recertified their vote, with Trump gaining 162 votes, that puts all 3 Stein recounts to bed. And minus the one Republican faithless elector, gives Trump a 305 - 232 expected win (I expect the Democratic "faithless" electors ultimately will vote for HC). Time to get the show on the road...[/QUOTE]


You act surprised that millions of people are not ever going to be behind Trump. Lol. It is nobody's fault but his own that he has so much dirty baggage. Ill spare you the list, as we have all heard it all before. Your use of the word "faithless" just makes me laugh because it has to be understandable why people might think this guy is up to no good. I mean to say he has a checkered past is a real understatement.

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Channel 4 (NBC) of of DC had a story that the parks dept ( or who ever is in charge) of the Mall won't issue permits to demonstrate at Trumps Inaugural.They said they are expecting up to 15/20 thousand demonstrators.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1158740]You act surprised that millions of people are not ever going to be behind Trump. Lol. It is nobody's fault but his own that he has so much dirty baggage. Ill spare you the list, as we have all heard it all before. Your use of the word "faithless" just makes me laugh because it has to be understandable why people might think this guy is up to no good. I mean to say he has a checkered past is a real understatement.[/QUOTE]
Faithless is just the term given to electors who don't vote for their state's elected candidate. My quotes are because I doubt the 7 Democratic faithless electors will really vote for a consensus Republican even if one was put forth.

At this point he won, it's over, and it would be better if the country - both sides - could strive to work on common ground agendas.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158745]Faithless is just the term given to electors who don't vote for their state's elected candidate. My quotes are because I doubt the 7 Democratic faithless electors will really vote for a consensus Republican even if one was put forth.

At this point he won, it's over, and it would be better if the country - both sides - could strive to work on common ground agendas.

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I think that the difference between the two parties that caused Obama's hands to be tied is nothing compared to the opposition now.
I know it is not the happy ending you are hoping for but this is going to be four years of shit show. That should be painfully evident based on the election it was spawned from. Sorry. Get your shit shoes on. Lol

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Yeah so how about this Russia shit?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1158748]Yeah so how about this Russia shit?[/QUOTE]



I wanted to bring it up but I think I have come to the conclusion that pro Trump people will either straight up deny, or twist it into something good. The worse the shit gets the worse the denial and twisting. I just cant even anymore.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1158748]Yeah so how about this Russia shit?[/QUOTE]
A lot of smoke and mirrors crap by the whiners.

The Clinton campaign is working every angle to diminish the magnitude of her loss. Wisconsin did the full recount, and Trump gained over 100 votes, no hint of any foreign interference, Pennsylvania court ruled it is on the verge of insanity to think any tampering occurred. Michigan stopped their recount when it turned out Detroit's ballots were the ones most out of whack.

As for the Russian hacking of emails etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Obama administration hacked Germany's emails. If we are doing it to our allies it's not a stretch to think we are doing it to Russia and vice versa. Color me shocked.



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[QUOTE=punch it in;1158746]I think that the difference between the two parties that caused Obama's hands to be tied is nothing compared to the opposition now.
I know it is not the happy ending you are hoping for but this is going to be four years of shit show. That should be painfully evident based on the election it was spawned from. Sorry. Get your shit shoes on. Lol[/QUOTE]
Honestly, so far I'm loving the liberal freak out. And for the most part, the moves by Trump's transition team. As I have said - I disregard any tweets from 12pm - 8am except in as much as I love the drama they stir up from the media.


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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158755]Honestly, so far I'm loving the liberal freak out. And for the most part, the moves by Trump's transition team. As I have said - I disregard any tweets from 12pm - 8am except in as much as I love the drama they stir up from the media.


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You cannot just pick and choose pieces of reality. Lol. He is tweeting at those hours, and as the president elect you have to "regard" them. It is not just liberals freaking out. Last time I checked their were shit tons of people on the right equally as freaked out by this dude.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1158756]You cannot just pick and choose pieces of reality. Lol. He is tweeting at those hours, and as the president elect you have to "regard" them. It is not just liberals freaking out. Last time I checked their were shit tons of people on the right equally as freaked out by this dude.[/QUOTE]
I haven't seen anyone on the right freaking out, and once the transition is complete you will see democratic senators from at risk states finding reasons to support his agenda.

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[quote=MTK;1158748]Yeah so how about this Russia shit?[/quote]

Trump supporters will find any reason they can to stand by their man. They have nothing to gain by abandoning him. It's only when he passes a bill that directly affects their personal lives for the negative (such as tax credits being abandoned by Congress, and the resulting increase in taxes despite his plan for the contrary) that they will realize he's just the ringleader of a crappy circus.

Not just that but Trump's whole MO regarding the media is making his supporters believe they are untrustworthy. Which sucks because I don't believe there's any major news outlet out there that isn't biased to some degree, so he's partially right. But when any major negative story comes out, very few of his followers believe it because they've been taught the media has it out for him.

This is a separate tangent from the Russia thing because now he's deflecting blame for the Russia scandal by saying the CIA is untrustworthy. Hell the fact that the majority of the intelligence community agrees that Russia is behind it doesn't matter to him, because he doesn't trust the intelligence community, as evidenced by the fact that he ignores his daily briefings.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158757]I haven't seen anyone on the right freaking out, and once the transition is complete you will see democratic senators from at risk states finding reasons to support his agenda.[/QUOTE]



They are questioning it though. Everyone is questioning this guy. Right included.

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Well like the Donald says, like him or not. "Get Over It" He won! Unfortunately yes!

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1158753]A lot of smoke and mirrors crap by the whiners.

The Clinton campaign is working every angle to diminish the magnitude of her loss. Wisconsin did the full recount, and Trump gained over 100 votes, no hint of any foreign interference, Pennsylvania court ruled it is on the verge of insanity to think any tampering occurred. Michigan stopped their recount when it turned out Detroit's ballots were the ones most out of whack.

As for the Russian hacking of emails etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Obama administration hacked Germany's emails. If we are doing it to our allies it's not a stretch to think we are doing it to Russia and vice versa. Color me shocked.



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The recount had nothing to do with the Clinton campaign. The Russian story was a story well before the election was even over. Is this going to be the excuse every time Trump shits himself for the next four years? The Clinton campaign did it? My God. Talk about smoke and mirrors. Talk about whiners. Trump is soooooo butt hurt that he lost the popular vote. He has reinvented the meaning of landslide, and every single time he shits his pants for four years he already has a built in excuse. It was the fuckin Clinton campaign whining. Ive seriously never seen anything like this. The man could eat a shit sandwich live on tv, and Kelly Ann slut will sit there and say "no no no you all just need to accept he is the president- and that he did not eat a shit sandwich". Than all the Trumpers start trumping about how it was not actually him eating a shit sandwich and the cry baby libs didnt care about how Obama played golf, but the "supposed" shit sandwich is a problem and even if it was a shit sandwich we all saw him eat well shit sandwiches are actually good but the Clintons are so mad they lost they want you all to think shit sandwiches are bad.
Face it dude. You voted for a big egomaniac who eats shit. [emoji106]

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At least we finally have a smart president who doesn't need daily security briefings.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1158745]Faithless is just the term given to electors who don't vote for their state's elected candidate. My quotes are because I doubt the 7 Democratic faithless electors will really vote for a consensus Republican even if one was put forth.

At this point he won, it's over, and it would be better if the country - both sides - could strive to work on common ground agendas.

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I agree but then with his Cabinet picks and his tweeting and his lying about saving jobs,hell the shit everyone was afraid of is all ready starting and he isn't even President yet.Look at OPEC and the way Republicans are going after SS all ready!Sorry no free pass from me,none.

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[quote=MTK;1158770]At least we finally have a smart president who doesn't need daily security briefings.[/quote]

LOL, good we don't need him anywhere close to that" football".

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And let's not even get into his seemingly endless conflicts of interest. I know I know, just more liberal smoke and mirrors.

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[quote=punch it in;1158767]The recount had nothing to do with the Clinton campaign. The Russian story was a story well before the election was even over. Is this going to be the excuse every time Trump shits himself for the next four years? The Clinton campaign did it? My God. Talk about smoke and mirrors. Talk about whiners. Trump is soooooo butt hurt that he lost the popular vote. He has reinvented the meaning of landslide, and every single time he shits his pants for four years he already has a built in excuse. It was the fuckin Clinton campaign whining. [B]Ive seriously never seen anything like this[/B]. The man could eat a shit sandwich live on tv, and Kelly Ann slut will sit there and say "no no no you all just need to accept he is the president- and that he did not eat a shit sandwich". Than all the Trumpers start trumping about how it was not actually him eating a shit sandwich and the cry baby libs didnt care about how Obama played golf, but the "supposed" shit sandwich is a problem and even if it was a shit sandwich we all saw him eat well shit sandwiches are actually good but the Clintons are so mad they lost they want you all to think shit sandwiches are bad.
Face it dude. You voted for a big egomaniac who eats shit. [emoji106][/quote]
You simply have to look at the first 6 years of Pres Obama's term and the incessant refrains about Bush to see it. Of course you have to be on this side of the political chasm to see the comparison.

He is an egomaniac, though I imagine his dining selection rarely includes shit.

I hope the rest of the rant felt good :)