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Cowboys to tag Lawrence

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22503387/rae-carruth-apologizes-death-pregnant-girlfriend-seeks-custody-18-year-old-son]Rae Carruth apologizes for death of pregnant girlfriend, seeks custody of 18-year-old son[/url]

This could get interesting. Carruth does not deserve custody of his son, not now or ever. But if he is truly repentant about the harm he caused, it would be a good start for him to try to be there for the kid, provided the kid and his caretaker are ok with it. If they aren't he should seek a fresh start elsewhere.

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Chris Baker cut by Tampa

The Bears release PFF top 5 guard Josh Sitton. Redskins anyone ? forget his age


[url]https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2018/02/20/Chicago-Bears-decline-option-on-G-Josh-Sitton/2291519167486/[/url]

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According to ESPN radio the jets may pay Kirk 60M next year??? Tell me I heard that wrong lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188872]According to ESPN radio the jets may pay Kirk 60M next year??? Tell me I heard that wrong lol

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I doubt it is per season. Maybe, $30 million for 1st season- $30 million signing bonus, spread over 5+ years.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1188875]I doubt it is per season. Maybe, $30 million for 1st season- $30 million signing bonus, spread over 5+ years.[/QUOTE]Nope 60 million for one year with 100 million total and all guaranteed.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188872]According to ESPN radio the jets may pay Kirk 60M next year??? Tell me I heard that wrong lol

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I heard it too! Yes they said 60 million in a one year deal. I just thought it was a mistake.


It was a mistake !!!!

60 Million his "FIRST" year with a contract from the Jets.

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[quote=Dan73;1188876]Nope 60 million for one year with 100 million total and all guaranteed.

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No, in his first year.


[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-reportedly-want-to-give-kirk-cousins-60m-in-the-first-year-of-his-contract/[/url]

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1188878]No, in his first year.


[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-reportedly-want-to-give-kirk-cousins-60m-in-the-first-year-of-his-contract/[/url][/QUOTE]Yes I know. But they are talking a fully guaranteed contract for 100 million also. 60 million first year.

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[quote=Dan73;1188876]Nope 60 million for one year with 100 million total and all guaranteed.

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That is insane

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1188881]That is insane[/QUOTE]Funny even over at emoskins it is starting to sink in Kirk was all about the money.

Reading some interviews with players it seems Kirk was not really about the team.

Fuller is missed more.

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Why is it Kirk’s fault if the Jets offer him stupid money? I still think he ends up in Denver or Minnesota but if NY does something crazy like a totally guaranteed deal who could blame him? Don’t lie you’d do it too

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[quote=MTK;1188883]Why is it Kirk’s fault if the Jets offer him stupid money? I still think he ends up in Denver or Minnesota but if NY does something crazy like a totally guaranteed deal who could blame him? Don’t lie you’d do it too[/quote]

I agree KC will probably not end up in NY. He is already financially set for life and he is looking for a team that can be a Super Bowl contender. Wherever he goes he will be well paid.

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Kirk Cousins sucks in New York. He ain't going there. He doesn't seem like a great fit for that market either.

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SIAP

Jarvis Landry got the non-exclusive franchise tag. $16 million for a WR who averaged less than 10.0 per reception ??? more insanity

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/02/20/jarvis-landry-given-non-exclusive-franchise-tag-by-dolphins/110650678/[/url]

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So does everyone remember when fans had a shit fit when the Redskins let Chris Baker go to Tampa?

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22513594/tampa-bay-buccaneers-release-rb-doug-martin-dt-chris-baker]Tampa Bay Buccaneers release RB Doug Martin, DT Chris Baker[/url]

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[QUOTE=mooby;1188854][url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22503387/rae-carruth-apologizes-death-pregnant-girlfriend-seeks-custody-18-year-old-son]Rae Carruth apologizes for death of pregnant girlfriend, seeks custody of 18-year-old son[/url]



This could get interesting. Carruth does not deserve custody of his son, not now or ever. But if he is truly repentant about the harm he caused, it would be a good start for him to try to be there for the kid, provided the kid and his caretaker are ok with it. If they aren't he should seek a fresh start elsewhere.[/QUOTE]



He shouldn’t be allowed within 100 miles of the kid that he almost killed and left handicapped for life. Its one thing to say you are sorry to your kid for yelling at them a bit too loud but to apologize for having their mother killed and causing them severe disability throughout the course of their life is just ridiculous.
Im all for second chances except when you try to kill someone. That sort of negates the rest of your existence together.

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[quote=MTK;1188883]Why is it Kirk’s fault if the Jets offer him stupid money? I still think he ends up in Denver or Minnesota but if NY does something crazy like a totally guaranteed deal who could blame him? Don’t lie you’d do it too[/quote]
It's not and I am one who believes it was never about the money with Kirk but more power to him.On the Jets side they are looking for their "ELI" someone who they know can be a great representative of the team and can play football.The Jets have had such a bad time with QB's they will try anything . I just don't know if this is good for the league?

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1188887]So does everyone remember when fans had a shit fit when the Redskins let Chris Baker go to Tampa?



[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22513594/tampa-bay-buccaneers-release-rb-doug-martin-dt-chris-baker]Tampa Bay Buccaneers release RB Doug Martin, DT Chris Baker[/url][/QUOTE]


Turns out he wasn’t that great after all

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1188889]It's not and I am one who believes it was never about the money with Kirk but more power to him.On the Jets side they are looking for their "ELI" someone who they know can be a great representative of the team and can play football.The Jets have had such a bad time with QB's they will try anything . I just don't know if this is good for the league?[/QUOTE]


Why is it not good for the league for a team to spend available cap space? The Jets could give Kirk $60M and still have $40M for other moves.

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[quote=MTK;1188890]Turns out he wasn’t that great after all[/quote]

I think some of us kinda got a biased opinion on Baker because when here we was our only average DL. All others were below average. So we thought we was good.
Obviously he's not that good. Plus he seems to be a pain in the ass as a person...

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[quote=Punch it in]
He shouldn’t be allowed within 100 miles of the kid that he almost killed and left handicapped for life. Its one thing to say you are sorry to your kid for yelling at them a bit too loud but to apologize for having their mother killed and causing them severe disability throughout the course of their life is just ridiculous.
Im all for second chances except when you try to kill someone. That sort of negates the rest of your existence together.

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I agree Punch, if they had given him the death penalty I honestly wouldn't have cared because it's about as heinous a crime as it gets.

But the whole point of prison is to rehab a person (and while I think most of the time the system fails), so if prison really did rehab him and his son/caretaker are ok with him trying to establish a relationship I don't have a problem with it. I'm sure they won't welcome him with open arms initially (as is their right) but stranger things have happened.

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[quote=MTK;1188891]Why is it not good for the league for a team to spend available cap space? The Jets could give Kirk $60M and still have $40M for other moves.[/quote]

Also can we keep the Kirk discussion to one thread? It's hard to track when we're having the same discussion in two different threads.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1188891]Why is it not good for the league for a team to spend available cap space? The Jets could give Kirk $60M and still have $40M for other moves.[/QUOTE]What happened when the rookies starting trying to get more and more money?

That 60 million could buy a whole position group with multiple players.

You are taking money from every other guy on the team.

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[QUOTE=Dan73;1188903]What happened when the rookies starting trying to get more and more money?

That 60 million could buy a whole position group with multiple players.

You are taking money from every other guy on the team.

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That’s the Jets problem if they decide to make him that offer

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[QUOTE=MTK;1188904]That’s the Jets problem if they decide to make him that offer[/QUOTE]Until the next guy says I want that. Much like what happened with the rookies if guys are losing money to one player they will want a cap.

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Teams have always been able to structure deals to fit their cap whether its front loading or back loading deals. That’s all the Jets would be doing here

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If I'm Kirk I go to Minnesota, may not make as much but u can win right away. The JEST have money to spend but that roster is weak. Denver is old at key positions and will have to cut players

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[QUOTE=mooby;1188895]Also can we keep the Kirk discussion to one thread? It's hard to track when we're having the same discussion in two different threads.[/QUOTE]2 different threads? You're being nice... That shit's spreading all across the board...

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/21/report-jaguars-unlikely-to-re-sign-aaron-colvin/]Report: Jaguars unlikely to re-sign Aaron Colvin – ProFootballTalk[/url]

good CB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188925][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/21/report-jaguars-unlikely-to-re-sign-aaron-colvin/]Report: Jaguars unlikely to re-sign Aaron Colvin – ProFootballTalk[/url]

good CB[/quote]

There ya go, Fuller's replacement.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35701/if-kirk-cousins-wants-to-win-some-teams-just-dont-make-sense]If Kirk Cousins wants to win, some teams just don't make sense - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

Agree with this. Outside Minnesota and Jacksonville, the other teams aren't really ideal for "winning". You might add the Broncos on that list but they don't have the cap room really to sign him and I doubt he's going to take a team friendly deal. So if it's about "winning", it comes down to two teams.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1188929][URL="http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35701/if-kirk-cousins-wants-to-win-some-teams-just-dont-make-sense"]If Kirk Cousins wants to win, some teams just don't make sense - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/URL]

Agree with this. Outside Minnesota and Jacksonville, the other teams aren't really ideal for "winning". You might add the Broncos on that list but they don't have the cap room really to sign him and I doubt he's going to take a team friendly deal. So if it's about "winning", it comes down to two teams.[/quote]

I've always liked Keim, he does a good job of summing up Kirk's options here.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/22/doug-pederson-if-carson-wentz-were-healthy-he-wouldve-been-super-bowl-mvp/]Doug Pederson: If Carson Wentz were healthy, he would’ve been Super Bowl MVP – ProFootballTalk[/url]

Possibly but dont take away from Foles moment, that dude was amazing in the SB, maybe the best QB performance we have seen in years. Like I've said all along, its the system they have and with the recent report of Wentz wearing a brace the rest of his career I don't think I'd let Foles leave just yet.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1188894]I agree Punch, if they had given him the death penalty I honestly wouldn't have cared because it's about as heinous a crime as it gets.

But the whole point of prison is to rehab a person (and while I think most of the time the system fails), so if prison really did rehab him and his son/caretaker are ok with him trying to establish a relationship I don't have a problem with it. I'm sure they won't welcome him with open arms initially (as is their right) but stranger things have happened.[/QUOTE]



I hope he is rehabilitated. I hope he is truly sorry. If he is keep your distance and send him every penny you ever make anonymously. I guess im looking at it from the perspective of ...how can you try to kill someone and than be like hey sorry little man.... it is beyond any sort of reconnection at this point. No matter what he actually feels inside. And to even express the idea of building a relationship again screams this guy is as nuts now as he was than.


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[quote=punch it in;1188954]I hope he is rehabilitated. I hope he is truly sorry. If he is keep your distance and send him every penny you ever make anonymously. I guess im looking at it from the perspective of ...how can you try to kill someone and than be like hey sorry little man.... it is beyond any sort of reconnection at this point. No matter what he actually feels inside. And to even express the idea of building a relationship again screams this guy is as nuts now as he was than.


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It'd be a start. I'm just looking at it from the perspective of someone who has a disabled family member and has seen the toll it takes on their parents/caretakers. His caretaker probably appreciates any help she can get, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine her saying yes to any financial help Carruth could give. But this whole conversation is moot if neither of them want him in their lives, which is totally understandable given the circumstances.

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The #Chiefs will receive a package of draft picks from the #Rams in exchange for CB Marcus Peters. They are focusing on the final part of the deal right now. But it’s getting done.

Per Rap sheet

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189042]The #Chiefs will receive a package of draft picks from the #Rams in exchange for CB Marcus Peters. They are focusing on the final part of the deal right now. But it’s getting done.

Per Rap sheet[/quote]


[url]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/967107691968679936[/url]

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[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jonathan-martin-arrested-after-gun-threat-to-two-nfl-players-and-old-high-school/[/url]


Seems he still hasn't gotten the help he needs.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1189065][url]https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/967107691968679936[/url][/quote]

He's a good player but seems to be a headcase