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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1189158]We haven't had a TE who can do both in decades, so what makes you think the Skins will all of the sudden find one? Besides, the opponent's defense almost always loads up vs.the Skins on 1st down and our genius HC calls a running play into the teeth of the D. So, we might as well have a role player at TE who can block.[/quote]

Cooley was a decent blocker, so was Stephen Alexander. Just a bit shy of two decades for Stephen, so you are not far off the mark.

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[quote=Dan73;1188815]With the quality of our cornerbacks the practice field was perfect for experience. Kirk should have just been throwing balls up all day for Doctson to learn how to battle and keep balls against NFL level CBs.

I am really hoping Smith works on rhythm then builds up WR confidence.

That is why part of me hopes they keep Pryor and give him at least a chance.

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Why would you keep Pryor? He was virtually non existent in the offense last year. Draft a couple Wrs in this upcoming draft. Pryor had an entire season to prove himself and he was a flop.

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[quote=Ivar the Boneless;1189221][B]Cooley was a decent blocker[/B], so was Stephen Alexander. Just a bit shy of two decades for Stephen, so you are not far off the mark.[/quote]

Uh, no.

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If Davis wanted to be better at blocking he would be. He's big and strong enough. It's just not in his heart to do so. If he got with the right coach, or a coach that instilled fear in the players he'd probably be better at it. Reed is just simply too soft, weak and brittle to move any NFL player off his spot. He'd get pushed around if he had to block a kicker. It will never happen with him. If we ran two TE sets w/ these two there's 0.01 % chance it's a run play.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1189219]The Redskins are trying to trade Cravens. They can probably get a conditional 7th round pick in 2037

[url=http://nfltraderumors.co/redskins-attempting-trade-s-sua-cravens/]Redskins Attempting To Trade S Su'a Cravens | NFLTradeRumors.co[/url][/QUOTE]I would trade him and a low level pick to the Steelers for Byrant.

Then sign Poe and Hyde as well as resign Brown.

Then trade out of the first recoup picks and gain something for next year then go BPA all the way.

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If we can get Bryant for Cravens and a 7th I'm all in

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Dion Lewis would be a nice pick up, plays like CT and I worry about his Knee issues.

Josh Sitton is older but he would help right away,


Donte Moncrief would be our number 2 and probably a good deal.


John Sullivan - C

Alex Okafor - This is the guy I want the most on this list, he has a huge upside and would be cheap.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189243]If we can get Bryant for Cravens and a 7th I'm all in[/quote]

That won't get Bryant but perhaps it would fetch a ham sandwich without cheese.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1189243]If we can get Bryant for Cravens and a 7th I'm all in[/QUOTE]If the Steelers are up for it, it'd be a bargain for sure.
Even with a 5th I'd love it.

A 4th would be the point I'd start having second thoughts.

But my expectations for Su'a and what we can get for him being what they are, I'd almost see it as a 4th for Bryant, and I'd be more than OK with that.

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Cravens has zero trade value right now. He quit on his teammates. Apparently he did the same thing while at USC. He needs to grow up but he's still young. Maybe being out of football for a year was the best thing for him. Hopefully he comes back more mature and will be a pro. I wouldn't give up on him quite yet.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1189267]Cravens has zero trade value right now. He quit on his teammates. Apparently he did the same thing while at USC. He needs to grow up but he's still young. Maybe being out of football for a year was the best thing for him. Hopefully he comes back more mature and will be a pro. I wouldn't give up on him quite yet.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't give up on him as a player either... but I'm pessimistic on what he can accomplish here.
He'd have to be really driven to earn his spot in this locker room back.
If he can do that, he'd sure be more valuable than a 7th round.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189269]I wouldn't give up on him as a player either... but I'm pessimistic on what he can accomplish here.
He'd have to be really driven to earn his spot in this locker room back.
If he can do that, he'd sure be more valuable than a 7th round.

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I didn't realize that he's still only 22. I hope they keep him. Let him earn the respect back from everyone. We all did dumb shit when we were young. I could see the Redskins giving up on him, the Pats pick him up and he becomes a star. ..lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1189267]Cravens has zero trade value right now. He quit on his teammates. Apparently he did the same thing while at USC. He needs to grow up but he's still young. Maybe being out of football for a year was the best thing for him. Hopefully he comes back more mature and will be a pro. I wouldn't give up on him quite yet.[/quote]

There was a post a while back where he was quoted saying "I don't care about football anymore" I believe someone on here shared it, that kind of guy is someone u don't want, maybe he really had some personal issues and stopped caring but I wouldn't bet on him being around long.

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From ESPN's Josina Anderson "The redskins are working on Brown and Breeland deals"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189368]From ESPN's Josina Anderson "The redskins are working on Brown and Breeland deals"[/quote]

I was OK with letting Breeland go before jettison Fuller, but now, I'm glad they're working on a deal, and very glad they're working on a deal with Zach Brown! I need to hear them say the deal is done for both!

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[quote=metalskins;1189370]I was OK with letting Breeland go before jettison Fuller, but now, I'm glad they're working on a deal, and very glad they're working on a deal with Zach Brown! I need to hear them say the deal is done for both![/quote]

same here

more from J.A

I'm told on #Redskins WR Terrelle Pryor the team is expecting him to "test the market and see what the market bares first" per source.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1189371]same here

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I'm told on #Redskins WR Terrelle Pryor the team is expecting him to "test the market and see what the market bares first" per source.[/quote]

That's an extremely diplomatic way of saying "he sucks and they don't want him".

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I’m shocked we’re not all over TP with a long term deal

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[quote=MTK;1189373]I’m shocked we’re not all over TP with a long term deal[/quote]

If nobody wants him, I'd bring him back to be our 3rd string QB

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I’d bring him back as the waterboy

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[quote=MTK;1189375]I’d bring him back as the waterboy[/quote]

He'd fumble the Gatorade.

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[quote=MTK;1189373]I’m shocked we’re not all over TP with a long term deal[/quote]

Really ought to franchise tag him this year, possibly next if his agent is shrewd.

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Per Ian Rapoport the #Broncos are in talks to trade for #Redskins S Su’a Cravens

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1189382]Really ought to franchise tag him this year, possibly next if his agent is shrewd.[/QUOTE]


Totally agree

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[URL="http://www.redskins.com/news/article-1/Five-Takeaways-Doug-Williams-At-The-NFL-Combine/d0e5fcf9-95bb-4b37-9994-263eb446c01d"]Five-Takeaways-Doug-Williams-At-The-NFL-Combine[/URL]

Decent read on the Combine with Doug Williams

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[quote=dej733;1189392]Per Ian Rapoport the #Broncos are in talks to trade for #Redskins S Su’a Cravens[/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000918073/article/broncos-in-talks-to-acquire-sua-cravens-from-redskins]Broncos in talks to acquire Su'a Cravens from Redskins - NFL.com[/url]

heres the link.

i hope they agree with denver to package cousins and cravens for 5 picks lolllllllllll

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Denver had a first round grade on him when he came out so who knows maybe we can get something decent? I’d take a 5th. A 4th would be money.

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[quote=MTK;1189407]Denver had a first round grade on him when he came out so who knows maybe we can get something decent? I’d take a 5th. A 4th would be money.[/quote]

They are talking possibly a 2nd rounder, I wouldn’t trade him for less than a 3rd rounder. [url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/ContentGallery/NFL-Combine-2018-Redskins-vice-president-Doug-Williams-addresses-media-at-NFL-Combine-115670522[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1189408]They are talking possibly a 2nd rounder, I wouldn’t trade him for less than a 3rd rounder. [url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/ContentGallery/NFL-Combine-2018-Redskins-vice-president-Doug-Williams-addresses-media-at-NFL-Combine-115670522[/url][/quote]

If they want to throw us a 2nd perfect. Guarantee we can get a good RB then

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I'm going to be absolutely shocked if we get anything higher than a 5th.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189410]I'm going to be absolutely shocked if we get anything higher than a 5th.[/quote]

If they can get the 3rd round pick #71 it would be great. Denver has extra picks in the 4th and 5th rounds. They may have a compensatory pick at the end of the 3rd round too.

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It won’t be a second rounder, I call BS on that. News doesn’t get any more fake than that.

But if we get a 4th or 5th I’d be pleased.

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Doesn't the fact that (at least) 2 teams are interested in Cravens allow us to increase the value we can get for him ?

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A 2nd rounder sounds like a real long shot, I’m sure that’s what the Skins are shooting for but it seems unlikely. The Chiefs just got a 2nd for Peters and he’s one of the best young corners in the game. Cravens hasn’t proven much on the field yet to demand that same price.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189414]Doesn't the fact that (at least) 2 teams are interested in Cravens allow us to increase the value we can get for him ?[/quote]

Yes that's a good sign. But a 2nd rounder is high. If you were another team would you give that up for a guy who walked away from his team for a year on the eve of the season's start?

Still you're right, if multiple teams are interested the Skins have the ability to play them off one another. I think it increases the chances that we don't have to settle for the NFL equivalent of a ham sandwich (conditional 7th rounder).

We might be able to get a 4th or 5th out of this, that'd be nice.

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[quote=MTK;1189415]A 2nd rounder sounds like a real long shot, I’m sure that’s what the Skins are shooting for but it seems unlikely. The Chiefs just got a 2nd for Peters and he’s one of the best young corners in the game. Cravens hasn’t proven much on the field yet to demand that same price.[/quote]
This is interesting to me. Peters drama outweighs his performance but Craven hasn’t done much. He had flashes as a rookie but never really developed. You can drive up the price when two teams are bidding against each other. I would be happy with a third round pick.

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If we get a 2nd rounder for Cravens I'll jump out of my chair laughing. Not happening

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1189414]Doesn't the fact that (at least) 2 teams are interested in Cravens allow us to increase the value we can get for him ?[/quote]

Giants are shopping Eli Apple around too,so the market might have a few options for some teams.

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Cravens is too slow to be a safety and not big enough for a LB, I just don't see him getting much attention. Plus the Off the field stuff can't help our cause. I'd say a 4th at best but hell if we can get a 3 or 2 that's on the Broncos

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[quote=MTK;1189415]A 2nd rounder sounds like a real long shot, I’m sure that’s what the Skins are shooting for but it seems unlikely. The Chiefs just got a 2nd for Peters and he’s one of the best young corners in the game. Cravens hasn’t proven much on the field yet to demand that same price.[/quote]

This is why I think the Redskins might work out a deal with Denver to acquire Talib while given Denver Cravens. Now, yes, that doesn't seem like a likely trade, but it's been reported that Talib might be a cap causality due to the team wanting to make room to compete for Kirk Cousins. So, being able to trade Talib and get all of his contract off the books might mean a lot more to the Broncos. It seems too much of a coincidence that the Broncos would be in talks with the 'skins for Cravens, and then report on possibly trading Talib.