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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1191165]I wish SS were around to clarify the "Don't answer your phone" text from Bruce Allen.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/dont-answer-your-phone-inside-the-trade-that-brought-alex-smith-to-the-redskins/2018/03/16/0340c74a-2951-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html?utm_term=.deb92dc044f9[/url]

It seems weird though that BA didn't just call Doug Williams with the news, and/or that DW wasn't able to be told even through a text.[/QUOTE]Who the hell knows or cares. It sounds like they all made the decision to target him together. That's what matters, that football people choose their targets. It's up to the BA and ES to get it done.

DW does not seem upset about it. Why should I be?

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[quote=WillH;1191166]Who the hell knows or cares. It sounds like they all made the decision to target him together. That's what matters, that football people choose their targets. It's up to the BA and ES to get it done.

DW does not seem upset about it. Why should I be?

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Fair enough, just seems odd to me that's all.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191165]I wish SS were around to clarify the "Don't answer your phone" text from Bruce Allen.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/dont-answer-your-phone-inside-the-trade-that-brought-alex-smith-to-the-redskins/2018/03/16/0340c74a-2951-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html?utm_term=.deb92dc044f9[/url]

It seems weird though that BA didn't just call Doug Williams with the news, and/or that DW wasn't able to be told even through a text.[/quote]

Sounds like Bruce made the trade but they pawn Doug out for the press conference. Very weird.

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Bruce is the point person for making deals happen, I'm not sure why that's strange at all. Doesn't mean Doug or Gruden wasn't involved, as the article says:

[QUOTE]The Redskins internally had discussed the possibility of acquiring Smith, the first overall pick in the 2005 draft, as early as wild-card weekend in early January, with the personnel department making a list of all of the free agent quarterbacks and trade possibilities during postseason meetings. They rated Case Keenum, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford, Chad Henne, Josh McCown and others.

“But Alex was our main focus, so nobody else mattered,” Williams said. And with Smith having only one year remaining on his Kansas City deal, and 2017 first-round pick Patrick Mahomes II poised to be the future of the Chiefs, Washington knew “there was a possibility they could move on” from Smith, Gruden said.[/QUOTE]

This is the way I've heard it described too, a list was put together by the personnel dept, Alex was at the top of the list, and Allen made it happen.

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[quote=MTK;1191169]Bruce is the point person for making deals happen, I'm not sure why that's strange at all. Doesn't mean Doug or Gruden wasn't involved, as the article says:



This is the way I've heard it described too, a list was put together by the personnel dept, Alex was at the top of the list, and Allen made it happen.[/quote]

Again the only point I thought was weird was the cryptic, to me, text "don't answer your phone". But maybe they had had conversations earlier clarifying that.


Regardless, yes it sounds like the whole team staff bought in, and was kept at football level decision making so I like all that.

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Just think about this, since Allen has been here, he's given away a total of 6 draft picks trying to get a QB. These are picks that don't actually include the drafted player. IDK of anyone in the NFL that would be able to get away with that. Let's hope the last one is the one that leads us to a SB.

3 RG3
2 McNabb
1 Smith

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Well the Jets took a qb in the second last year, and without him playing a regular season down traded 4 high quality picks to move up this year.

Cleveland, well it's cleveland

Minnesota traded how much to Philly for Bradford?

Other than lightning in a bottle, or sucking for Luck type seasons, attempts to get quality qb's cost draft and cap capital. Nearly every team with a bottom tier qb has made similar jumps to get "the guy"

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per PFF, Smith ranked 1st in big time throws, meaning throws that could be risky or that result in a TO.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1191416]per PFF, Smith ranked 1st in big time throws, meaning throws that could be risky or that result in a TO.[/QUOTE]Close, but not exactly....[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/83ea5be80448050fb82eba0e744c07b6.jpg[/IMG]

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So he and Brady not only have a lot of big time throws, but are also not risky with their throws.


Notice, BTW, which quadrant that the Redskins logo is in.

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[quote=WillH;1191439]Close, but not exactly....[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/83ea5be80448050fb82eba0e744c07b6.jpg[/IMG]

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Ahh good find bud, I just saw the tweet from someone not the page itself. Basically the same thing tho

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I liked the headline. The story itself - meh
[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/jay-gruden-feels-redskins-definitely-improved-qb-alex-smith-kirk-cousins-131757646.html"]Jay Gruden feels Redskins 'definitely' improved at QB with Alex Smith over Kirk Cousins[/URL]

Gruden needs to say the right things, just like when KC was here. I guess how much he believes it will play out on the field.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191679]I liked the headline. The story itself - meh
[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/jay-gruden-feels-redskins-definitely-improved-qb-alex-smith-kirk-cousins-131757646.html"]Jay Gruden feels Redskins 'definitely' improved at QB with Alex Smith over Kirk Cousins[/URL]

Gruden needs to say the right things, just like when KC was here. I guess how much he believes it will play out on the field.[/quote]

A lot of writers just seem to hate the Redskins. He makes us sound like a 2-14 team. Can't win with the media, maybe that's why they don't try.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1191684]A lot of writers just seem to hate the Redskins. He makes us sound like a 2-14 team. Can't win with the media, maybe that's why they don't try.[/quote]

Media hates us because of Dan and the name issue, its that simple.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191679]I liked the headline. The story itself - meh
[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/jay-gruden-feels-redskins-definitely-improved-qb-alex-smith-kirk-cousins-131757646.html"]Jay Gruden feels Redskins 'definitely' improved at QB with Alex Smith over Kirk Cousins[/URL]

Gruden needs to say the right things, just like when KC was here. I guess how much he believes it will play out on the field.[/quote]

Douche bag article. I think in terms of veteran leadership, yes, the 'skins are better at QB. Smith wants to be here. Cousins didn't. It's that simple.

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1191695]Douche bag article. I think in terms of veteran leadership, yes, the 'skins are better at QB. Smith wants to be here. Cousins didn't. It's that simple.[/QUOTE]Yea def. I take it as comments similar to the ones about RB. Nobody thinks Jay is happy with the position group but is def gong to talk the guys on the team up.

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[quote=metalskins;1191695]Douche bag article. I think in terms of veteran leadership, yes, the 'skins are better at QB. [B]Smith wants to be here. Cousins didn't. It's that simple.[/B][/quote]

This.

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I agree with Jay, Alex is a winner and he will bring that to this team. 24 Tds 7 Ints probably but 9-10 wins book it. I'll take that over 28 Tds 12Ints and 4500 yards passing with a 7-9 record all day

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Alex Smith is the Chuck Norris of QBs.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/36096/andy-reid-gushes-about-alex-smiths-ability-and-his-gigabytes]Andy Reid gushes about Alex Smith's ability, 'gigabytes' - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1191739][url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/36096/andy-reid-gushes-about-alex-smiths-ability-and-his-gigabytes]Andy Reid gushes about Alex Smith's ability, 'gigabytes' - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

Even though I felt Reid royally screwed us when the 'skins got McFlabb, I believe he's being sincere with his praise of Alex Smith.

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[quote=metalskins;1191741]Even though I felt Reid royally screwed us when the 'skins got McFlabb, I believe he's being sincere with his praise of Alex Smith.[/quote]

That was back when he knew we were crazy and he could take advantage of us, now he is in KC so I agree, I believe this will be nothing like Mcnabb

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1191742]That was back when he knew we were crazy and he could take advantage of us, now he is in KC so I agree, I believe this will be nothing like Mcnabb[/quote]

He also was a division rival. No way he sends Smith to Denver in an equivalent move.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191743]He also was a division rival. No way he sends Smith to Denver in an equivalent move.[/quote]

no doubt

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good read

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1191742]That was back when he knew we were crazy and he could take advantage of us, now he is in KC so I agree, I believe this will be nothing like Mcnabb[/quote]

I believe the Alex Smith Wash is getting now is better than the Donovan McNabb they got in 2010. That being said Smith is at best a lateral movement from Cousins. Hopefully the offense won't regress?

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1191890]I believe the Alex Smith Wash is getting now is better than the Donovan McNabb they got in 2010. That being said Smith is at best a lateral movement from Cousins. Hopefully the offense won't regress?[/quote]

Get a solid LG and stud RB, and it will be better.

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The Stone Roses. Saw them at Heaton Park in 2012. Amazing gig.

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Sorry if this was already posted. Amazing read about Smith vs Cousins

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2018/4/1/17183284/bucky-brooks-agrees-with-jay-gruden-that-alex-smith-is-an-upgrade-at-qb[/url]


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1192001]Sorry if this was already posted. Amazing read about Smith vs Cousins

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2018/4/1/17183284/bucky-brooks-agrees-with-jay-gruden-that-alex-smith-is-an-upgrade-at-qb[/url]


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Some good stats in there.

I just wanted to throw this out there: assuming Kirk would have signed the contract he got in Minnesota here had the Skins made the exact same offer (which I don't think is true, but for the sake of argument), the Skins [B]saved, on their cap space[/B]:

[U]6,6M[/U] in 2018, [U]8,6M[/U] in 2019 and [U]9,6M[/U] in 2020 !

(from overthecap and spotrac numbers)

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[quote=RedskinUK;1191944]The Stone Roses. Saw them at Heaton Park in 2012. Amazing gig.[/quote]

Did you see them with The Defacators?

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David Carr thinks Skins could have first pick in 2019 draft with Alex Smith as QB

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000923585/article/quarterback-relocations-tyrod-taylor-kirk-cousins-set-to-soar]Quarterback relocations: Tyrod Taylor, Kirk Cousins set to soar - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=D.BUTZ65;1192029]David Carr thinks Skins could have first pick in 2019 draft with Alex Smith as QB

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000923585/article/quarterback-relocations-tyrod-taylor-kirk-cousins-set-to-soar]Quarterback relocations: Tyrod Taylor, Kirk Cousins set to soar - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

That's laughable

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[quote=D.BUTZ65;1192029]David Carr thinks Skins could have first pick in 2019 draft with Alex Smith as QB

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000923585/article/quarterback-relocations-tyrod-taylor-kirk-cousins-set-to-soar]Quarterback relocations: Tyrod Taylor, Kirk Cousins set to soar - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

He says AS will have 24 tds and 10 ints on the worst team in the league? LOL ok man put down the pipe. He's probably another media hater of the skins, nothing new. Dude was a bust and is trying to live off his younger brother.

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Looks like Carr threw that article together in about 5 minutes

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[quote=MTK;1192033]Looks like Carr threw that article together in about 5 minutes[/quote]

I could see if AS got hurt week 1 but he has Smith having a good yr lol so it makes 0 sense

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If you want to say that Smith's numbers might not match his best season on record, and thus he has less success, ok. I don't think that's right but sure he might throw an extra pick or two (or 5 ?) and throw for 20yards per game.

The first pick in the draft line though is pretty whacko. (Although I am sure some people on here will say we will only win 4 games this year).

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Even with being completely decimated by injuries we were 7-9, so thinking we’ll fall off the cliff and get the #1 pick is odd thinking on his part. Wish he elaborated on that.

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[quote=Schneed10;1192004]Did you see them with The Defacators?[/quote]

No the big comeback gig - Primal Scream and The Wailers were main support.

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[quote=RedskinUK;1192038]No the big comeback gig - Primal Scream and The Wailers were main support.[/quote]

Lol....


I’ll just add, the Stone Roses debut album is one of my all time favorites...great album...unfortunately the madChester should had been more prolific, exciting period.