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[quote=calia;1206939]Well, as someone who thought we’d get crushed when our D was letting the Bucs move the ball with ease, I’m so thrilled to be wrong. Holding any team to 3 points is an achievement, yards notwithstanding. This win showed some grit - the D clamped down when it counted and the offense did just enough to win.

We’d all like to see the offense improve, but the injuries are brutal and missing 3 OL (two pro bowlers), your deep threat, and your 3rd down back is hard. And missing the CB whose had the best season in your squad isn’t easy either.

Getting some guys back will be crucial for the team to keep winning against better opponents and I hope that happens. A lot.


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CT and Crowder should both be back this week, they were very close to playing this week. I hope Dunbar can play, we will need him against DHOP and Thomas.

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Great defense performance!! Also we gotta give credits to Phil Rauscher for making sure new Oline players are on same page with Oline, I honestly expected TB defense to constantly pressure Alex throughout the game but dang, Redskins Oline players proved me wrong!

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Cooper is already an upgrade on SL, He should have been here a long time ago. He has a nasty streak to him. Now i don't feel as worried with Trent out against Houston

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1206941]Whiners can suck it. The team gets a big win on the road, with all these injuries, against an NFC team, and you just can't bring yourself to enjoy it. F U - fair weather fans. You're the same ones that are probably selling your tickets to the other teams fans at home games. Josh Norman is right, we have the worst fans, collectively, in the NFL. It's over halfway through the season, the Skins are two games up in the NFC East, there's only like five teams in the entire NFL that have a better record, and it's just not good enough. Unbelievable... Do yourself (and us real fans) a favor and find another team to root for.[/quote]

I will take the 6-3 with the 200 yard QB over 3-6 with the 400 yard QB any day of the week. I am old school anyway, 45-38 games don't do anything for me. The Redskins are just finding a way to win, which is great.

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So can you pump your chest and brag that the other team got 500 yards of O but only had 3 points to show for it? What I do like is that this team is finding ways to win.

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When this team holds opposing offenses to under 20, we are 6-0. That is no fluke, yes its ugly but that stat shows this defense can be a legit threat in the playoffs, when defense matters the most.

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I agree with Dan Hellie:

The national media tends to focus on the Alabama guys... Ioannidis is the engine that makes the Redskins D-line go.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206960]When this team holds opposing offenses to under 20, we are 6-0. [B]That is no fluke, yes its ugly but that stat shows this defense can be a legit threat in the playoffs, when defense matters the most.[/B][/quote]

My biggest concern is that Manusky (like Gruden) lacks the ability or will to change up his game-plan. I'm in full support of not getting burned deep, but when we have our (fairly) talented corners playing that far back, people can dink and dunk us to death. Look what happened when we played two competent QBs.

I love our defensive talent right now, and I don't think Manusky is using it right on the back end.

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'17: 6-3
'16: 7-2
'15: 4-5 (but then went 7-0)
'14: 5-3
'13: 9-0

This is Alex Smith's record thru week 10 since 2013.

That is damn good

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1206963]My biggest concern is that Manusky (like Gruden) lacks the ability or will to change up his game-plan. I'm in full support of not getting burned deep, but when we have our (fairly) talented corners playing that far back, people can dink and dunk us to death. Look what happened when we played two competent QBs.

I love our defensive talent right now, and I don't think Manusky is using it right on the back end.[/quote]

I think he plays it safe a lot, lets the DL do the work and that is fine. Our secondary has had very good games and some very bad games. Dunbar out hurts but Stroman has played well IMO. Nobody is talking about Josh but he has been lights out since NO

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206965]I think he plays it safe a lot, lets the DL do the work and that is fine. Our secondary has had very good games and some very bad games. Dunbar out hurts but Stroman has played well IMO. Nobody is talking about Josh but he has been lights out since NO[/quote]

Don’t know about lights out, blatant interference vs Atlanta, got away with some holding yesterday. He’s playing better, but has lost a step.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206952]Cooper is already an upgrade on SL, He should have been here a long time ago. He has a nasty streak to him. Now i don't feel as worried with Trent out against Houston[/quote]

I don't want to hop on someone's train after one game, but the dude was mauling people. Impressive for someone who was on the couch a week before. If he stays healthy, maybe that's our new "cheap" OG.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206965]I think he plays it safe a lot, lets the DL do the work and [B]that is fine.[/B] Our secondary has had very good games and some very bad games. Dunbar out hurts but Stroman has played well IMO. Nobody is talking about Josh but he has been lights out since NO[/quote]

It's fine in games where it's close, but even when we're down by double digits, he's like, "Hey, let's keep the same game plan that isn't working and still play our DBs twenty yards off." That's how Brees and Ryan absolutely carved us up. I refuse to believe it's our talent. When people are running wide open it's either communication or game plan.

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[B][U]Positives:[/U][/B]

-The whole [I][U]Offensive Line[/U][/I] minus Tony Bergstrom

-Special props to [I][U]Jonathan Cooper[/U][/I], the guy is the [I][U]improvement over Lauvao[/U][/I] we've been waiting for. Once Trent Williams comes back, we can slide Nsekhe to either LG or RG, get rid of Bergstrom and have ourselves a [I][U]nice OL despite losing Scherff[/U][/I]

-[I][U]Jeremy Sprinkle [/U][/I] as somebody said above, he made some really nice blocks

-[I][U]Josh Doctson[/U][/I] . I get the feeling his 2 awful drops last week created a spark inside the guy, he's finally heading in the right way!

-[I][U]Josh Norman[/U][/I] they just don't throw his way !

-Nice play by my adopted son [I][U]Ryan Anderson[/U][/I] ^^

-[B]D-FUCKIN'-FENCE[/B] ! I'm sorry but [SIZE="1"]TOLD YA[/SIZE] [SIZE="2"]TOLD YA[/SIZE] [SIZE="3"]TOLD YA[/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][B]TOLD YA[/B][/SIZE] this defense was better than what they showed last week, and they could rebound like they did after the Saints loss !

-[U][I]Manusky[/I][/U] for getting this D over their worst performance of the year and coach them into putting together a great one! 3 things he specially deserves credit for in this game IMO:

1) He obviously [I][U]highlighted the necessity of creating turnovers[/U][/I] (hence Anderson, Stroman, Swearinger and Kerrigan all mimicking Norman and his popping-the-ball-loose-uppercut).

2) To everybody whining about the 400 yards, I think this was the [B][I][U]game plan[/U][/I][/B] all along: let them go after our [I][U]rookie corners[/U][/I] (remember Dunbar is out, right?), as long as we don't get beat over the top, at some point Fitzpatrick is going to turn the ball over... Exactly what happened, nice job of [I][U]identifying what you can and what you can't do[/U][/I] . Talk about [B][I][U]bend but don't break Defense against the number one offense on the F'in league[/U][/I][/B]!!

3) Noticed for the first time of the year he [I][U]rotated both the DL and the pass rushers[/U][/I]. Sticking with your starters worked incredibly well at the beginning of the season, but maybe part of last week underperformance was the big guys beginning to wear down a little bit. This week [I][U]Anderson, McKinzie, Settle and even old McGee[/U][/I] played a fair amount of snaps. They played well and this must have helped keep the starters fresh for 90 minutes!

-The[I][U] Eagles lost[/U][/I], we're 2 wins ahead,[B] leading the NFCEast[/B] !

[B][U]Negatives:[/U][/B] GTFOOH we're 6 and 3, "winning" is the only word I can read in "winning ugly"! [SIZE="5"] HTTR !!![/SIZE]

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Also, special shout out to AP who routinely shows why he's a future Hall of Famer. The dude still just does runs that I'm like, "FUCKING WOW!"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206964]'17: 6-3
'16: 7-2
'15: 4-5 (but then went 7-0)
'14: 5-3
'13: 9-0

This is Alex Smith's record thru week 10 since 2013.

That is damn good[/quote]

QB W/L record is not a good way to judge a QB.

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what if we make the playoffs and end up playing the Vikings?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1206972]what if we make the playoffs and end up playing the Vikings?[/quote]

That would be fun, I think they would win tho. The 2 teams we need to hope for are CAR and CHI.

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[quote=MTK;1206919]The Skins aren’t winning the SB but can they win the division and maybe win a playoff game? Definitely. Enjoy the ride kids.[/quote]

Exactly. When we lose it's "we're not winning another game this season", when we win it's "yeah but we won't be playing late in January"...

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Crazier things have happened, what if we get Chicago round 1? I like that match up.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206976]Exactly. When we lose it's "we're not winning another game this season", when we win it's "yeah but we won't be playing late in January"...[/quote]

We are getting healthier and getting players back like Quinn, Thompson, Crowder, Dunbar and possibly Williams by Thanksgiving. Smith is getting more weapons so I don’t want to hear he doesn’t have the players to work with. The Redskins can compete with anyone as long as they are consistent.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1206978]We are getting healthier and getting players back like Quinn, Thompson, Crowder, Dunbar and possibly Williams by Thanksgiving. Smith is getting more weapons so I don’t want to hear he doesn’t have the players to work with. The Redskins can compete with anyone as long as they are consistent.[/quote]

Quinn is a non factor tho, he hasn't even played so u cant say hes a weapon. I like Bibbs and would like to see more of him. CT is often injured so he's another guy u can't really count on this yr. I'm shocked Reed has stayed healthy.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206979]Quinn is a non factor tho, he hasn't even played so u cant say hes a weapon. I like Bibbs and would like to see more of him. CT is often injured so he's another guy u can't really count on this yr. I'm shocked Reed has stayed healthy.[/quote]

We shall see.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1206969]

[B][U]Negatives:[/U][/B] GTFOOH we're 6 and 3, "winning" is the only word I can read in "winning ugly"! [SIZE="5"] HTTR !!![/SIZE][/quote]

No negatives on victory Monday!

I'm going to enjoy the week and division lead!

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1206946]What does a team that has 500 yards total offense average in points scored?

It has to be 40+. I cannot believe the Redskins let them march up and down the field and only gave up 3 points. I just listened on the radio. my TV died yesterday I could not have watched if I wanted to. The game must have been something to watch. Look at that, with a QB that doesn't turn the ball over, with a great punter and decent place kicker you can win by double digits on the road while being out gained by over 200 yards![/QUOTE]



You forgot a few key factors that were out of control like
1) the bucs shot their feet right off
2) the bucs were an absolute dumpster fire
3) the bucs handed us the game on a silver platter
It had shit to do with Alex Smith not turning the ball over. Lol. You can’t turn the ball over when you play afraid and miss everyone by a country mile when you wind up and launch the ball over 9 yards. Shit I don’t turn the ball over either probably because I take as many shots downfield as he does every Sunday.
Quarterback is a big fat problem for us.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1206980]We shall see.[/quote]

I hope those guys can contribute of course but gonna be tough.

Also how bout our guy Andrew Luck? MVP candidate imo

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206985]I hope those guys can contribute of course but gonna be tough.

Also how bout our guy Andrew Luck? MVP candidate imo[/quote]

But I thought he was washed up, average, blah, blah, blah.

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[quote=punch it in;1206984]You forgot a few key factors that were out of control like
1) the bucs shot their feet right off
2) the bucs were an absolute dumpster fire
3) the bucs handed us the game on a silver platter
It had shit to do with Alex Smith not turning the ball over. Lol. You can’t turn the ball over when you play afraid and miss everyone by a country mile when you wind up and launch the ball over 9 yards. Shit I don’t turn the ball over either probably because I take as many shots downfield as he does every Sunday.
Quarterback is a big fat problem for us.[/quote]

He's horrible on the deep ball, that is for sure but he did make an awesome throw in the RZ, which he is very good down there

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1206986]But I thought he was washed up, average, blah, blah, blah.[/quote]

He does turn it over but he also makes amazing plays downfield and he has made Eric Ebron (who many wrote off as a bust) look like a top 10 TE

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1206987]He's horrible on the deep ball, that is for sure but he did make an awesome throw in the RZ, which he is very good down there[/QUOTE]



Yes on that drive he threw two really nice tight passes. Not going to say he is very good down there based off one drive. I think SF mentioned that we get a few guys back this week including Crowder n CT. TW will be back fairly soon too. We will see. I am extremely cautiously optimistic right now. Our schedule is not easy. Other than the Gints which is still a division rival we really have some tough games. Health, and Coaching (oh boy) are going to be the key down the stretch. Texans r next on the docket gonna be a tough one.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206988]He does turn it over but he also makes amazing plays downfield and he has made Eric Ebron (who many wrote off as a bust) look like a top 10 TE[/quote]

While we are on this topic. Besides TY Hilton (before Ebron emerged) who are Luck's receivers? Luck has made Ebron into what he was supposed to be as a 1st round pick and his other no name receivers produce. I guarantee you our receivers (who people under appreciate) go play for someone like Luck they would be lighting it up.

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[quote=punch it in;1206989]Yes on that drive he threw two really nice tight passes. Not going to say he is very good down there based off one drive. I think SF mentioned that we get a few guys back this week including Crowder n CT. TW will be back fairly soon too. We will see. I am extremely cautiously optimistic right now. Our schedule is not easy. Other than the Gints which is still a division rival we really have some tough games. Health, and Coaching (oh boy) are going to be the key down the stretch. Texans r next on the docket gonna be a tough one.[/quote]

He's got 8 Tds to 0 Ints in the RZ. That is very good. Not amazing but he's not that kind of QB.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1206990]While we are on this topic. Besides TY Hilton (before Ebron emerged) who are Luck's receivers? Luck has made Ebron into what he was supposed to be as a 1st round pick and his other no name receivers produce. I guarantee you our receivers (who people under appreciate) go play for someone like Luck they would be lighting it up.[/quote]

Luck is a top 10 QB tho, those guys make others better. Alex is around 15-20 , he needs the guys around him to be very good (last yr) to put up great numbers.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206992]Luck is a top 10 QB tho, those guys make others better. Alex is around 15-20 , he needs the guys around him to be very good (last yr) to put up great numbers.[/quote]

My point is, our receivers are not the problem despite what many here say. I have a feeling Quinn is going to surprise, I'm really intrigued by him. I would also like to see AP, Bibbs and CT with a 123 punch on the running game.

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[quote=punch it in;1206989]Yes on that drive he threw two really nice tight passes. Not going to say he is very good down there based off one drive. I think SF mentioned that we get a few guys back this week including Crowder n CT. TW will be back fairly soon too. We will see. I am extremely cautiously optimistic right now. Our schedule is not easy. Other than the Gints which is still a division rival we really have some tough games. Health, and Coaching (oh boy) are going to be the key down the stretch. [B]Texans r next on the docket gonna be a tough one.[/B][/quote]

That is the game I'm the least confident we can win. Not saying others are gimmee. But I'm really not expecting to beat the Texans coming off a bye week...

Heck, what am I talking about? Next week? F' me! We just won! First in the division, HTTR!

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Houston will be a good close game, Houston isn't as good as TB, or even INDY on Offense. I love Watson though, he's a tough kid and a good QB. Their OL is not very good so we should get pressure.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206995]Houston will be a good close game, Houston isn't as good as TB, or even INDY on Offense. I love Watson though, he's a tough kid and a good QB. Their OL is not very good so we should get pressure.[/quote]

If Fitzpatrick scrambled like Tarkenton, what do you think Watson can do? 2 legit receivers in Hopkins and Thomas. Remember the Falcons patched line? Redskins need to dominate on D to win this game, after to iffy performances on D they are due to play better.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1206996]If Fitzpatrick scrambled like Tarkenton, what do you think Watson can do? 2 legit receivers in Hopkins and Thomas. Remember the Falcons patched line? Redskins need to dominate on D to win this game, after to iffy performances on D they are due to play better.[/quote]

Watson moves a little but he's also injury prone so they limit his mobility.
Have we given up a 100 yards to a RB yet this yr? If not that is damn impressive, I can't remember that last time we did that thru 9 games.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206977]Crazier things have happened, what if we get Chicago round 1? I like that match up.[/quote]

We would have under 200 yards of offense and lose. Also the Bears are scoring points w/ Tribisky at QB. He had 6 td passes against the Bucs defense. So far bringing in Nagy looks like a great hire.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1206985]I hope those guys can contribute of course but gonna be tough.

Also how bout our guy Andrew Luck? MVP candidate imo[/quote]

Overlooked qb mvp candidate? Phillip Rivers says hold my beer.

Todd Gurley should win it...he’s amazing....but this year, everything is lining up for drew Brees