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[quote=MTK;1217088]Yeah I get the pride thing, but how many of us have worked shitty jobs because we have to? He's probably making a million per year I'd guess. Hard to give that up over pride.[/quote]

No doubt. I'd swallow that pride too for 1M

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[quote=MTK;1217083]Hey welcome back Manusky, never mind that coaching search we did while you were still on the clock. You were our guy all along. :doh:[/quote]

It's like Bruce and Dan are taking a page out of another high-profile person's playbook. They are just owning it, not even denying things are as shitty as they seem. Like hey Bruce, your lifetime .425/something winning percentage in 9 years is making the fans hate you, but fuck 'em so I'm gonna promote you to run football and business ops.

Hey there Manusky, you're pretty unimpressive and the obvious scapegoat for a porous 2nd half D, so we're gonna try to replace you, but still retain you JIC nobody good wants to work for us.

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1217066]Snyder owns the team. He can't be canned.[/QUOTE]Of course...But you have to admit that removing Snyder from the Redskins is the only way to fix the Redskins [emoji19]

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[quote=MTK;1217083]Hey welcome back Manusky, never mind that coaching search we did while you were still on the clock. You were our guy all along. :doh:[/quote]

I’m sure Bruce and gang will just lie to manusky face...totally seeing Bruce playing dumb. “Greg, your paranoid dude....”

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It's really getting hard to root for this team. I'll always love the Redskins but it's not the same anymore. To see the way they do business year after year makes me sick. And you wonder why Cousins wanted to get the hell outta here.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217087]I get that but damn, Pride has to kick in you would think. O well, it's going to be a LONG year for Skins fans. At this point I'm ready for the draft and hope we strike gold on a QB[/quote]

Manusky, someone with your qualifications would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in either the food service or housekeeping industries.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1217101]It's really getting hard to root for this team. I'll always love the Redskins but it's not the same anymore. To see the way they do business year after year makes me sick. And you wonder why Cousins wanted to get the hell outta here.[/QUOTE]As I have stated previously, I feel the Exact Same Way!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217075]It appears Jay also went to bat for Manusky per Keim, so it looks like he wanted to keep his guy all along.[/quote]

So then Snyder/Allen were just shopping for a new DC...even though Jay didn't want to make a change?? Well that's just awesomeness isn't it.

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#Redskins DL Jonathan Allen to @JunksRadio on D.J. Swearinger: “If I have a problem with any of my coaches, I’m gonna go sit in their office and talk to them about it.”

Build around 93

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217091]No doubt. I'd swallow that pride too for 1M[/quote]

Me 3. My pride falls well well well below 1 million lol.

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I'm getting to the acceptance stage of the grieving process. Be watching next year for progress from our younger guys and this years draft class, not for wins, won't be many of them.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217129]#Redskins DL Jonathan Allen to @JunksRadio on D.J. Swearinger: “If I have a problem with any of my coaches, I’m gonna go sit in their office and talk to them about it.”

Build around 93[/quote]

Yeah, after Swearinger was cut, it was reported that the reason he was cut (vs. suspended) is that a lot of his team mates were sick of his unprofessional behavior and wanted him gone. Allen was mentioned as being the most vocal.

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Per the WAPO

"Redskins are keeping Manusky as Defensive Coordinator"

LOL what a joke

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217151]Per the WAPO

"Redskins are keeping Manusky as Defensive Coordinator"

LOL what a joke[/quote]

What changed?

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[quote=Chico23231;1217152]What changed?[/quote]

Just the whole process has been embarrassing.

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[quote=Chico23231;1217152]What changed?[/quote]

The lack of viable alternatives, I suspect.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1217131]I'm getting to the acceptance stage of the grieving process. Be watching next year for progress from our younger guys and this years draft class, not for wins, won't be many of them.[/quote]

lol this sums up my previous middle of the night post last night. Can do nothing more than shake my heads at this point and hope the coaches re-gain the fucking locker room during the off-season.

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To lighten things up a bit:

[url]https://twitter.com/christhompson_4/status/1085576512085114881?s=21[/url]


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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1217169]To lighten things up a bit:

[url]https://twitter.com/christhompson_4/status/1085576512085114881?s=21[/url]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]LOL [emoji23]

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Believe it or not, both spurned Snyder at least that's what this sounds like.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-dan-snyder-leading-redskins-165225527.html[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1217599]Believe it or not, both spurned Snyder at least that's what this sounds like.

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-dan-snyder-leading-redskins-165225527.html[/url][/quote]

This just proves DS still has final say

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217619]This just proves DS still has final say[/quote]

All owners have "final say." Generally, the Head coach would be in the drivers seat when it comes to pursuing coaches to add to his staff. He would probably run his list of candidates by the GM and Owner and perhaps ask for their help in wooing the candidate, but it would be the HC leading the push.

This report indicates Snyder was the leading the effort - possibly without the involvement, let alone endorsement, of his GM or Head Coach.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1217625]All owners have "final say." Generally, the Head coach would be in the drivers seat when it comes to pursuing coaches to add to his staff. He would probably run his list of candidates by the GM and Owner and perhaps ask for their help in wooing the candidate, but it would be the HC leading the push.

This report indicates Snyder was the leading the effort - possibly without the involvement, let alone endorsement, of his GM or Head Coach.[/quote]

At this point Jay and his whole staff (what's left of it ) knows they are done after 2019, how would you feel if you knew your job was coming to an end soon? Next season is going to be a disaster.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217626]At this point Jay and his whole staff (what's left of it ) knows they are done after 2019, how would you feel if you knew your job was coming to an end soon? Next season is going to be a disaster.[/quote]

we can only hope. We've been so mediocre for so long. we're never good enough to win a playoff game. We're rarely bad enough to get a high draft pick. I HOPE we are bad enough next year to secure to the first overall pick so whoever our new coach is in 2020, they will be able to draft the QB they want.

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Paulsen goes off on Snyder and I love it.

[url]https://thefandc.radio.com/grant-paulsen-rant-after-caller-defends-redskins-dan-snyder[/url]

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Bruce and Jay are speaking to the media at 4PM from the senior bowl

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217656]Bruce and Jay are speaking to the media at 4PM from the senior bowl[/quote]

That should be interesting. Hopefully they get some hard questions.

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High praise for Kris Richard: [url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2815769-kris-richard-will-bring-the-boom-when-he-finally-gets-a-head-coaching-shot[/url]

In case we ever get to the point at which a change might happen....

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So Jay is not going to talk to the media because Jays not even at the Senior Bowl. The team said that Jay "stayed home to interview assistant coaching candidates."

What a joke.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1217676]So Jay is not going to talk to the media because Jays not even at the Senior Bowl. The team said that Jay "stayed home to interview assistant coaching candidates."

What a joke.[/quote]

LMAO Basically " Jay has no say in this draft since he's a lameduck HC"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217678]LMAO Basically " Jay has no say in this draft since he's a lameduck HC"[/quote]

If that's the reason, then to be honest, that's fine with me. I don't want Jay having input into players he won't be coaching in 2020. Let Kyle Smith make the decisions. He did a good job last year. (assuming we plan to keep him around).

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[B]Lowlights from the interview:[/B]
[B][I]unless noted with quotes, all comments are just my paraphrasing[/I][/B]

Bruce claims interviews with Bowles and other high profile coaches who went on to be DC elsewhere were just to get "ideas" on things we could do to improve the defense. When asked about how that all worked with Manusky on staff as DC, Bruce says that Manusky was a participant in those interviews. (JP Later followed up on this and Bruce said Manusky wasn't involved with the Bowles interview but some others)

Q: What do you say about your accountability for the teams wins and losses?
A: Doug and I have to find good healthy players and then the coaches need to put them in a position to win."

Q: Do you think that you're close?
A: Yes, we were 2 games back from a playoff spot. Between free agency and the draft and getting players back healthy, we're well positioned.

Q: What is it like interviewing a DC candidate when you already have a DC?
A: Sneaky evasive answer that doesn't say anything, then says "There will be conversations with other coaches here tonight. If they go well, Jay may come down to here (the Sr. Bowl.)"

Q: Is the GM role something that will get filled or do you like the current power structure?
A: We are very happy with Doug and the group he has... We are comfortable with the department we have.

Q: Who was involved with theAlex trade
A: "Alex trade was a no brainer." First met with offensive coaching staff and Greg Manusky. Talked about current QBs and available QBs. It was unanimous in coaching staff that they wanted Smith. Ran it by personnel department and it was unanimous they wanted Smith.

Q: Fan discontent. The message you're giving is that we're very close. But the fans don't seem to think so. There is even an online movement called #firebruceallen which i'm sure you're aware of. What do you think of that?
A: We're 7-9 and went through heartbreaking injuries. Fans saw a good football team. We have to learn to finish the season. Its heart-wrenching. Fans are passionate and they want us to win football games.

Q: Given the state of the franchise, why do you think you're the right person to lead the organization?
A: (Bruce seems surprised and awkwardly repeats question aloud as he tries to figure out how to respond) I share the passion with the fanbase... uhh... We're going to get this thing turned around. alright, goodbye (starts walking off - it had previously been announced that this would be his last question)

Reporter: This was nice, we should do it more often
(Bruce chuckles and walks away)

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[quote=calia;1217674]High praise for Kris Richard: [URL]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2815769-kris-richard-will-bring-the-boom-when-he-finally-gets-a-head-coaching-shot[/URL]

In case we ever get to the point at which a change might happen....[/quote]

Change means nothing if Snyder doesn't change. If he swaps Allen for another yes man it's the same shit different toilet.

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Well at least the interview questions aren't softballs.

Fuckin' Bruce Allen. What a slimeball.

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Was he asked about #firebruceallen


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[quote=MTK;1217686]Was he asked about #firebruceallen


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yes, it was the last question from the interview. I included his comment in my summary above (just updated).

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"We All Were 7-9 injuries injuries.. we are close doug has to get better players,lol
Bruce did his politician thing during the whole deal...

we are very passionate #firebruceallen

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He should just never talk ever. The guy should just go sell used cars. He said that Manusky was in the interviews when Bowles came in to take his job. Huh? Is he serious?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1217687]yes, it was the last question from the interview. I included his comment in my summary above (just updated).[/quote]

Those responses really remove all doubt that neither he nor his boss get it. After 20 years of pain, the fan base isn't just disgruntled about a season derailed by injuries. We're exhausted, dispirited, and angry about two decades' worth of (at best) irrelevance. No one has feared playing this team in two decades. Closer to three, really. And it is beyond reasonable debate that the yearly soul-crushing experience of being a Redskins fan has taken its toll on the fan base.

Man, if I saw him walk away with a chuckle when a reporter says we should do this again, I'd have been tempted to lob something at him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1217690]He should just never talk ever. The guy should just go sell used cars. He said that Manusky was in the interviews when Bowles came in to take his job. Huh? Is he serious?[/quote]

JP later followed up and went back to that question and Bruce said Manusky was NOT involved in the Bowles interview, but had been involved with others.