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[QUOTE=mooby;1221607]I couldn't see it happening this year because he's still owed 2 years of salary left, but next year? Sure. Smith + 2nd or possibly a 3rd for a 7th rounder (or a camp body) to a team with 60+ mil in unused cap space? I didn't think anybody would take on that Osweiler contract either, and look how that turned out. But this year is a definite no, nobody would want to take on 2 years of salary for anything lower than a first rounder.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020137/article/nfl-salary-cap-for-2019-season-set-at-1882m[/url]

Indy and the Jets could totally eat it in one year with the Jets being closer to full rebuild mode. I think the Cleveland model has turned some heads. Time will tell if it pays off.

Again, I don't think it's likely by a long shot and I would rather have the picks because I think we are building also.

And you're right, nobody saw the Osweiler trade coming.

The director of pants and picnics, aka the Prince of Darkness, keeps saying we're oh so close to contending.

Trading picks and Alex for cap space is a short term move entirely consistent with what our egotistical GM has been saying publicly for over a year.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1221609][url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020137/article/nfl-salary-cap-for-2019-season-set-at-1882m[/url]

Indy and the Jets could totally eat it in one year with the Jets being closer to full rebuild mode. I think the Cleveland model has turned some heads. Time will tell if it pays off.

Again, I don't think it's likely by a long shot and I would rather have the picks because I think we are building also.

And you're right, nobody saw the Osweiler trade coming.

The director of pants and picnics, aka the Prince of Darkness, keeps saying we're oh so close to contending.

Trading picks and Alex for cap space is a short term move entirely consistent with what our egotistical GM has been saying publicly for over a year.

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It's not about teams willing to eat it, it's how much we're willing to pay them to eat it. Right now the cost is too high. It's double what Houston paid Cleveland to eat Osweiler's deal.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1221610]It's not about teams willing to eat it, it's how much we're willing to pay them to eat it. Right now the cost is too high. It's double what Houston paid Cleveland to eat Osweiler's deal.[/QUOTE]I agree. I don't think it's going to happen either exactly for the reason you mentioned.

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NFL network mock draft tonight has Greedy Williams as the pick.... ???

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Pete Prisco says he's been told "Arizona is not taking Murray #1"

This could all be a smokescreen but many believe Oakland is trading up for that pick.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221013]I would trade 3 first round picks for that.[/quote]

I would also....it's an unfortunate thing being stuck with Dan.....

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How can you trade Alex Smith to dump salary if he can't pass a physical? Wouldn't the league reject that?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1221614]NFL network mock draft tonight has Greedy Williams as the pick.... ???[/quote]

I wouldn't hate that pick but I'd rather go Edge or WR at 15

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221619]How can you trade Alex Smith to dump salary if he can't pass a physical? Wouldn't the league reject that?[/quote]

Good point. I didn't think about that.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1221604]Isn't anyone here concerned about Rosen's personality which I find to be obnoxious. It makes me wonder how coachable he would be as our QB. I feel comfortable that AZ will draft Murray but I'm far from comfortable with the idea of trading for Rosen.

OTOH, I really like Haskins and Drew Lock, one or both of whom might be had at #15. All three of these players will need to be developed. I wonder if some of us here are allowing ourselves to hope there is an instant answer to our QB dilemma when there isn't one.[/quote]


I for one think the Redskins should say the hell with Rosen and keep our draft picks....seeing as though they don't have any QBs in their 20s on the roster except for that AAF bum they signed just days ago they should draft 2 QBs( one in the early rounds and another late in the draft.

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Doug said "If the season started today, Ryan Anderson would start" Said he's confident in him.

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If they are really high on a certain QB and he is available at 15, or they are able to trade down a few picks and get him, I'd be ok with that. Neither Smith, McCoy or Keenum are the long term answer at that position, and they absolutely need one.

If not, give me a solid edge rusher to solidify that D-line for the next several years. Ferrell, Burns, or Sweat - in that order.

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[url]https://twitter.com/HogsHaven/status/1120391031181185024?s=20[/url]

Smoke and mirrors?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1221651][url]https://twitter.com/HogsHaven/status/1120391031181185024?s=20[/url]

Smoke and mirrors?[/quote]

Could be bargaining for AZ but I think it's very likely he gets drafted by the skins

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1221648]If they are really high on a certain QB and he is available at 15, or they are able to trade down a few picks and get him, I'd be ok with that. Neither Smith, McCoy or Keenum are the long term answer at that position, and they absolutely need one.

If not, give me a solid edge rusher to solidify that D-line for the next several years. Ferrell, Burns, or Sweat - in that order.[/quote]


McCoy is too inconsistent and Keenum will only be effective with above average WR talent.....I'm not a fan of taking a QB in the first round.....a QB can be taken in the 2nd or 3rd round.

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do not be surprised if they take a tackle and play him at guard for a few years... maybe replaces Morgan or Trent when they get hurt

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1221652]Could be bargaining for AZ but I think it's very likely he gets drafted by the skins[/QUOTE]I heard on Sheehan's pod that Haskins went to high school with Dan's kid.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1221662]I heard on Sheehan's pod that Haskins went to high school with Dan's kid.

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Mhm. Rumor has it that they were best friends and Dan's kid is going to throw a hissy fit if the Skins don't draft him.

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[quote=mooby;1221664]Mhm. Rumor has it that they were best friends and Dan's kid is going to throw a hissy fit if the Skins don't draft him.[/quote]

This was mentioned a few months ago but I've also heard that no they were not friends, they just went to the same HS.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1221674]This was mentioned a few months ago but I've also heard that no they were not friends, they just went to the same HS.[/quote]

Three years apart is what I read. Don't think they really knew each other.

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Haskins on NFLN "I told the skins to come get me"

If the kid wants to play in DC I wan't him as my QB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1221676]Haskins on NFLN "I told the skins to come get me"

If the kid wants to play in DC I wan't him as my QB[/quote]

Of course, reason dictates he has said something similar to every team he has met with.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1221676]Haskins on NFLN "I told the skins to come get me"

If the kid wants to play in DC I wan't him as my QB[/quote]

With the current state of the Redskin offense, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees would look average behind center.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1221678]With the current state of the Redskin offense, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees would look average behind center.[/quote]

I don't think that's necessarily true. Redskins have one of best Oline (when healthy), Brees and Rodgers can do a lot of damages when they have time to throw regardless who receivers are.

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Per BMitch "Colt has had another procedure on his leg, expected to miss OTAs"

Shit he and Alex both may never play again..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1221674]This was mentioned a few months ago but I've also heard that no they were not friends, they just went to the same HS.[/quote]

I know, I was trying to start some nonsense. The idea that Dan Snyder's kid would have any sway over the team is appalling.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1221676]Haskins on NFLN "I told the skins to come get me"

If the kid wants to play in DC I wan't him as my QB[/quote]

Isn't this the same guy that wore an Elway jersey to meet with the Broncos? Not sure he really wants to be in DC

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1221684]Per BMitch "Colt has had another procedure on his leg, expected to miss OTAs"

Shit he and Alex both may never play again..[/quote]

Which is why I say if they are really high on a QB, and that guy is available at 15, or they can trade back a couple picks and get him, I'm good with that. Thing is, there are no sure things with any of these QBs as is the case pretty much every year, but if their guy is there, they should grab him. I won't hate them for that. If he doesn't work out long term, that sucks, but that's just part of the gamble with drafting QBs early.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1221690]Isn't this the same guy that wore an Elway jersey to meet with the Broncos? Not sure he really wants to be in DC[/quote]

He said he did that to pay homage to a legend. Nothing wrong w that. He also said he'd love to be a redskin

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Watched haskins enough to know I'd rather have a monster coming off the edge and keep building a nasty D.... Get Brett rypien in the 3rd or 4th but keep building the team with young depth... But... No one knows what will happen or how shit will work out.

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[quote=Meks;1221702]Watched haskins enough to know I'd rather have a monster coming off the edge and keep building a nasty D.... Get Brett rypien in the 3rd or 4th but keep building the team with young depth... But... No one knows what will happen or how shit will work out.[/quote]

Love this take sir. Completely agree

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I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if we trade up. I just cringe when I hear that we have talked to the jets. We need to trade back and get more picks not trade up and give them up. I think we should either give a 2 for Rosen (if available) and trade down in the first to pick up a 2.

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The faith I have in our front office we'll probably end up with uncle Rico and a bag of dirty jocks.

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I'm more and more wanting for them to go BPA with either an elite Edge Rusher, Inside Linebacker or TJ Hockenson.

The only QB I'd like to get in this draft is either Rosen for a 2nd/other picks OR a mid-rounder QB.

If everything goes to shit next year, I'd prefer to have the new coaching staff to pick a first round QB.

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Hockenson or trade down and add a second round pick. Then they have one first two 2nds and 2 3rds. Then BPA at WR, OL, TE, Edge, and QB

Finish with CB, FS, OL, WR, and LB

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2 nfl analysts have the Redskins taking Brian Burns....one has the Redskins drafting Greedy Williams and another mocks Marquise Brown....

Charles Davis believes the Redskins are potentially better than the 7-9 record.

[url]https://youtu.be/u8b1MfoZZyY[/url]

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1221738]2 nfl analysts have the Redskins taking Brian Burns....one has the Redskins drafting Greedy Williams and another mocks Marquise Brown....

Charles Davis believes the Redskins are potentially better than the 7-9 record.

[url]https://youtu.be/u8b1MfoZZyY[/url][/quote]

I would not be mad at either of those choices

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[quote=Ruhskins;1221729]I'm more and more wanting for them to go BPA with either an elite Edge Rusher, Inside Linebacker or TJ Hockenson.

The only QB I'd like to get in this draft is either Rosen for a 2nd/other picks OR a mid-rounder QB.

If everything goes to shit next year, I'd prefer to have the new coaching staff to pick a first round QB.[/quote]

Im agreeing with this post...but the ILB Bush from Michigan I would pass on rather have the LSU kid if we do go that route.

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Here's my logic...the Redskins have gone defense in the first round the last 2 drafts....the last time they went offense in round one was 2016....I really do believe they need to go offense this time.....the huge loss of Jamison Crowder and the undeveloped bust Josh Doctson suggest that the Redskins take a WR in the 1st round in 2019....whether it's Marquise Brown or N'Keal Harry the Redskins desperately need a playmaker at that position.....15 would be right for Brown...only if Brown is taken should the Redskins trade back 3 slots, pick up a 3rd or 4th round pick, and take N'Keal.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1221738]2 nfl analysts have the Redskins taking Brian Burns....one has the Redskins drafting Greedy Williams and another mocks Marquise Brown....

Charles Davis believes the Redskins are potentially better than the 7-9 record.

[URL]https://youtu.be/u8b1MfoZZyY[/URL][/quote]

[B]Potentially[/B] is the key word. They were not on the road to a 7-9 season last year, sitting at 6-3 more than halfway through the season, but then the wheels fell off with all the injuries, especially at QB. This season it really all hinges on the answer at QB and how effective that individual will be. The rest of the roster is basically a wash as far as whether it's better or worse...may be a drop off with rushing the passer, but that can likely be fixed with pick 15. If they get solid QB play and don't turn the ball over a ton, I can see 9-7 or better.