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Ruhskins 09-09-2019 11:20 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=5superbowls3wins;1229318]Morgan Moses is right. The run game had 10 carries for 30 yards with an average 1.3 per.....anyone who says we didn’t need the greatest RB of this decade is a damn fool.

What did Smallwood do for us in his place? Nothing.

Gruden needs to go.


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What would have AP done? Get his runs call back because of fucking Moses? Like I said, Moses needs to STFU and play.

And whatever happened with let young player develop and not have old vets take time away from that development?

My biggest issue with Gruden was going away from the run. Mitch Tischler said it best during the Redskins Talk Podcast, that series of play when Keenum missed McLaurin and PRich had a drop, they should have run the ball and give the defense a rest.

All this will be a moot point if/when Reed returns and they can activate AP.

DYoungJelly 09-09-2019 11:21 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Did AP ever average 1.8 ypc last year behind the walking wounded?

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skinsfan69 09-09-2019 11:22 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
If you're going to have AP on the roster then you simply have to active him. If he isn't going to be active then just move on from him.

The head coach should always have control over the roster. And with that comes accountability.

Defensewins 09-09-2019 11:25 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1229321]What would have AP done? Get his runs call back because of fucking Moses? Like I said, Moses needs to STFU and play.

And whatever happened with let young player develop and not have old vets take time away from that development?

My biggest issue with Gruden was going away from the run. Mitch Tischler said it best during the Redskins Talk Podcast, that series of play when Keenum missed McLaurin and PRich had a drop, they should have run the ball and give the defense a rest.

All this will be a moot point if/when Reed returns and they can activate AP.[/quote]

Not sure if you noticed but Moses point and your are the same exact point, Gruden did not run the ball enough when we had a 17 pt. L
lead. So why you telling him to stfu?
On your point about developing young players, yes develop them. But start your best players period. Do not let age, where drafted or contract influence your decision on starters.
Coaches coach and FO should stay out who starts.

Burgold 09-09-2019 11:31 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
George Allen said-The Future Is Now,and he was right..these clowns don't have a glue as to how winning works..if we fall to-0-3 the sky is gonna fall.

MTK 09-09-2019 11:31 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
WTF do we need with a 34 year old RB?? As soon as Guice was cleared medically they should have dumped Peterson. He did a great job last year and was one of the few bright spots but 2018 is long over with.

skinsfaninok 09-09-2019 11:35 AM

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RUN game was PATHETIC yesterday

Chico23231 09-09-2019 11:40 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Yeah didnt really think Guice solved the running game yesterday.

If anything we shouldn’t cut AP, but moved him for a pick. Carlos Hyde and duke Johnson getting picks...AP could get one.

Meks 09-09-2019 11:48 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Jays the type of coach that would play for a FG in OT. ... Time to go dude.

Defensewins 09-09-2019 12:07 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=MTK;1229327]WTF do we need with a 34 year old RB?? As soon as Guice was cleared medically they should have dumped Peterson. He did a great job last year and was one of the few bright spots but 2018 is long over with.[/quote]

Riggins was 34 when had a career year. He was 35 when he lead the NFL in running TD's.
A very few excellent athletes can continue to be very good at that age.
TE Vernon Davis is 35 that scored a great TD yesterday . While a younger Jordan Reed can not stay on the field.

BigHairedAristocrat 09-09-2019 12:40 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1229316]If you can't trust your HC to do the right thing, then you should fire him. Jay Gruden is the one who should be permanently deactivated.

p.s. We're going to be trampled by the Cowboys next week at "home".[/quote]

While i agree with you, the reality is that Jay is the absolute best coach we will ever have under Bruce Allen. No truly great coach would be willing to put up with him.

calia 09-09-2019 12:42 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1229349]While i agree with you, the reality is that Jay is the absolute best coach we will ever have under Bruce Allen. No truly great coach would be willing to put up with him.[/QUOTE]



If only we could limit Gruden to the first half and then let someone (anyone) take over the second half.


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sdskinsfan2001 09-09-2019 12:57 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Gruden has a 4th and 1 - Tries to draw them offsides then puts his tail between his legs and punts

Pederson has a 4th and 1 - Runs a QB sneak and gets the 1st down

Gruden - Wimpy Wimperson

Just another example of why the team is always soft.

5superbowls3wins 09-09-2019 12:59 PM

How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
I agree

skinsfaninok 09-09-2019 01:07 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1229367]Gruden has a 4th and 1 - Tries to draw them offsides then puts his tail between his legs and punts

Pederson has a 4th and 1 - Runs a QB sneak and gets the 1st down

Gruden - Wimpy Wimperson

Just another example of why the team is always soft.[/quote]

Yep, mfer has no balls and is a players coach which reflects on the field. He's a lame duck coach that will be fired anyway.

Meks 09-09-2019 01:22 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=MTK;1229327]WTF do we need with a 34 year old RB?? As soon as Guice was cleared medically they should have dumped Peterson. He did a great job last year and was one of the few bright spots but 2018 is long over with.[/quote]

Cuz Guice is proving so reliable. Better safe than sorry and better AP than friggin Perine or Smallwood. Jay is a moron.

sdskinsfan2001 09-09-2019 01:31 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1229374]Yep, mfer has no balls and is a players coach which reflects on the field. He's a lame duck coach that will be fired anyway.[/quote]

Jay "No Balls/No Adjustments" Gruden

KI Skins Fan 09-09-2019 02:06 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1229379]Jay "No Balls/No Adjustments" Gruden[/quote]

*comment deleted*

PorkSkins 09-09-2019 02:28 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1229379]Jay "No Balls/No Adjustments" Gruden[/quote]

You can also add his incompetent and "no adjustments" defensive coordinator.

Warthog 09-09-2019 04:19 PM

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Another point is that the Eagles are a very good team that had not played their players at all in the PS. First half they were rusty and unfocused. But DeSean told the Eagles players not to worry: the Redskins have a losing culture; a timid, below average HC who can’t win a second half - even to save his job. I liked the comment on the Gruden 4 and 1 play . If MY job was on the line I’d be going for it, even on my own 30. The Eagles ran three QB sneaks on 1 yd situations and got them all. They knew the Redskins would fold, they knew Gruden would try to protect the lead instead of doing what worked in the first half, they knew the Redskins would play undisciplined football to shoot themselves in the foot. When has Gruden had a low penalty team? When was the last time Gruden won a second half?
I thought O’Connell called a great first half. Then Gruden played his Jay-bowl second half : run on first down (minimal gain), penalty on OL, run on second down and then have a third and unbelievable passing down. If the fans can see Gruden’s predictable play calling you can be sure the Eagles DC knows how to stop it. I don’t blame Guice, the playcalling was predictable and their was NO hole. Gruden hasn’t grown or changed. I used to think we needed to draft better, but even when we do, the result is the same. It’s going to be painful to see good talent subjected to below average to poor coaching at a the HC and DC level.



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Ruhskins 09-09-2019 06:15 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=Warthog;1229420]Another point is that the Eagles are a very good team that had not played their players at all in the PS. First half they were rusty and unfocused. But DeSean told the Eagles players not to worry: the Redskins have a losing culture; a timid, below average HC who can’t win a second half - even to save his job.

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Not to take away from your points, but DeSean Jackson can kiss my ass. He bitches about Washington letting him go, when he knows damn well he chased the money to Tampa Bay. He sucked in TB and never lived up to his contract. He also forgets how he was considered to be a locker room cancer when Chip Kelly got rid of him and how he rehabbed his image and career with us, which led to his deal with Tampa Bay. So fuck him and we'll see what the Iggles think about him when he misses his average 4-5 games, as he does each year.

sdskinsfan2001 09-09-2019 06:25 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Lost in the typical Gruden game, now 1-5 in opening games under Jay's tenure. And the 1 win was against the worst team in the NFL that year. Can't get the guys ready to play, can't get them to put teams away, and can't make any adjustments. New HC please!!

Meks 09-09-2019 07:53 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
As fans we are sick of gruden/manusky. What has to happen for change? A 0-4/5 start?

5superbowls3wins 09-09-2019 08:03 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=Meks;1229464]As fans we are sick of gruden/manusky. What has to happen for change? A 0-4/5 start?[/QUOTE]



Very possible they go 1-4 during the opening stretch. I see loses to Philly (already happened), Dallas, Bears, Patriots. MAYBE they beat the Giants, but that’s on the road. They could easily go 0-5


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Warthog 09-10-2019 02:23 AM

How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1229449]Not to take away from your points, but DeSean Jackson can kiss my ass. He bitches about Washington letting him go, when he knows damn well he chased the money to Tampa Bay. He sucked in TB and never lived up to his contract. He also forgets how he was considered to be a locker room cancer when Chip Kelly got rid of him and how he rehabbed his image and career with us, which led to his deal with Tampa Bay. So fuck him and we'll see what the Iggles think about him when he misses his average 4-5 games, as he does each year.[/QUOTE]


The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a single 1000 yd season during his six years in the NFL. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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calia 09-10-2019 02:25 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=Warthog;1229479]The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a 1000 yd season in six years of playing. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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That about suns it up. Yep.


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Burgold 09-13-2019 01:37 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
After we lose to the Giants with Eli passing for over[300yds]then it will be time for Gruden to go!!!

5superbowls3wins 09-14-2019 11:57 AM

How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=Warthog;1229479]The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a single 1000 yd season during his six years in the NFL. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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Then the decision to sit the greatest RB of this decade, the strongest offensive weapon they had last year, Hours before kick off, against a division rival, on the road in hostile territory, with a quarterback taking his first real game snaps in this system and would need a run game badly..........for an unproven running back, taking his first real game snaps, coming back from injury, and a “special teams” player signed earlier in the week named Smallwood.....

Tell me, how many yards did Guice have? What did Smallwood do to help? How many breaks did our defense get in the second half?

Another HORRIBLE decision by our head coach that had DISASTROUS consequences. You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games. Gruden has failed miserably in each of those areas. Why are they still paying him, and why does he still have a job?????


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AnonEmouse 09-14-2019 02:28 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
I'd like to have seen us on Hard Knocks this year. Interesting to get an inside look at what's going on in the building and what's going through Gruden's mind. Probably not a lot...

I agree the decision to bench AP under the circumstances was dumb. Even with all the confidence in Guice, Smallwood and Thompson are so similar, the benefit in having 2 hard runners over 2 3rd down backs should be obvious.

I'm not a fire the coach kind of guy, but sometimes enough is enough.

jamf 09-14-2019 02:45 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
If you guys want to get technical they brought in Terrell Pryor before Prich.
Jackson is a big lose but so is losing Garçon as a possession receiver. The team hasn’t run a slant pass since he left.
You need a guy on 3rd and medium/short who is going to win every time and that was garçon.

Chico23231 09-15-2019 08:42 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Bruce did make a strong push to resign DJax but fell a little short. Garçon was done tho.

I actually think it was the right move at the time to move on from both. D Jax is widely considered a free agent bust with the Bucs. The biggest thing DJax brings to the field is the big play threat, but he is largely boom or bust production-wise.

That being said, the skins should have prepared much better for his presence on the field, because the eagles only won because of his 2 huge plays

Buffalo Bob 09-15-2019 09:11 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1229947]Bruce did make a strong push to resign DJax but fell a little short. Garçon was done tho.

I actually think it was the right move at the time to move on from both. D Jax is widely considered a free agent bust with the Bucs. The biggest thing DJax brings to the field is the big play threat, but he is largely boom or bust production-wise.

That being said, the skins should have prepared much better for his presence on the field, because the eagles only won because of his 2 huge plays[/quote]

Also Garcon tailed off quite a bit when he went to SF.

punch it in 09-15-2019 09:29 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1229947]Bruce did make a strong push to resign DJax but fell a little short. Garçon was done tho.



I actually think it was the right move at the time to move on from both. D Jax is widely considered a free agent bust with the Bucs. The biggest thing DJax brings to the field is the big play threat, but he is largely boom or bust production-wise.



That being said, the skins should have prepared much better for his presence on the field, because the eagles only won because of his 2 huge plays[/QUOTE]



Boom or bust in fantasy world maybe, but he still gets the respect of the safeties and stretches the field just by being on it...

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-15-2019 10:50 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=Warthog;1229479]The Redskins let BOTH Garçon AND DeSean go after the 2017 season. Two 1000 yard WR out the door. It was a Bruce Allen decision not try to keep either one!! Last year we also let Crowder go. Another 1000 yd WR out the door.

Who did we keep? Doctson- who never even had a single 100 yd game ever. P. Richardson was given a big contract- yet has NEVER had a single 1000 yd season during his six years in the NFL. Last year he had just 262 yds for us. Jordan Reed, who is awesome when he plays, but never finishes a season. Last year, we were 28th in the NFL in passing. That’s what happens when you let your best WR players go.

DeSean came to Washington because Chip Kelly is an idiot. DJax was a gift from the NFL gods. He played very well, was good in the locker room, punished the Eagles every game he played them, stayed healthy, and stretched the opposite defense with his speed. Yet we let him walk.

Yesterday, DeSean he beat us two ways: FIRST - he calmed the Eagles in the locker room and told the team that the Redskins would fold in the second half - because he knew Gruden. The Eagles walked onto the field confident from Jackson’s prediction. Second: he beat us on the field.

Meanwhile, the guy we decided to hire INSTEAD of paying DJax, Paul Richardson dropped critical passes in the second half. Our supposed #1 WR and DeSean’s replacement had just 36 yds yesterday.

Don’t blame DeSean because he roasted us yesterday. He could still be playing here, if we’d paid him. And he would have been toasting the Eagles alongside McLaurin.


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I get what you're saying but Jamison Crowder never had 1,000 yards receiving in a season.

mooby 09-15-2019 11:56 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[IMG]https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70539563_2784465208230401_21549809429118976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQmN8WMAk3FSNi7p-5vpcjceSe6wnveWOBxTFKJDAXnKYvXESW1hAFQL5IK2_eON4g8&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=3fe95b1684d08eaa1a7b7be48e3f778a&oe=5E0FC834[/IMG]

This has been making the rounds on Facebook and I'd like to verify the authenticity of it but a quick Google search hasn't helped. I feel like it's trying to correlate winning percentage when leading at halftime but I don't have the time to articulate the numbers game-by-game. Losing after leading big at the half (let's say 10 points in the Jay Gruden era) definitely seems like a trend for Gruden though.

I also believe D.Jax when he says the Redskins lack killer instinct. And that reflects on Jay Gruden too. It's one reason why I'm in favor of moving on unless we somehow make the playoffs this year.

DYoungJelly 09-15-2019 01:16 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1229959][IMG]https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70539563_2784465208230401_21549809429118976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQmN8WMAk3FSNi7p-5vpcjceSe6wnveWOBxTFKJDAXnKYvXESW1hAFQL5IK2_eON4g8&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=3fe95b1684d08eaa1a7b7be48e3f778a&oe=5E0FC834[/IMG]



This has been making the rounds on Facebook and I'd like to verify the authenticity of it but a quick Google search hasn't helped. I feel like it's trying to correlate winning percentage when leading at halftime but I don't have the time to articulate the numbers game-by-game. Losing after leading big at the half (let's say 10 points in the Jay Gruden era) definitely seems like a trend for Gruden though.



I also believe D.Jax when he says the Redskins lack killer instinct. And that reflects on Jay Gruden too. It's one reason why I'm in favor of moving on unless we somehow make the playoffs this year.[/QUOTE]Czaban mentioned this chart on his show the other day. The discussion stemmed from an email he received from someone.

No idea if it's accurate but would assume Scott or Steve would have corrected him if it was off.

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Warthog 09-16-2019 11:13 AM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
Gruden seems to be the “anti-Gibbs”. His teams, shown in this chart, do worse in the second half


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Warthog 09-16-2019 12:29 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1229953]I get what you're saying but Jamison Crowder never had 1,000 yards receiving in a season.[/QUOTE]



You’re right. My bad. Crowder has been replaced by Quinn / Harmon / Stephen Sims / Robert Davis. Probably Quinn at #3. McLaurin will be our #1 WR for the next decade


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Buffalo Bob 09-16-2019 12:36 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=mooby;1229959][IMG]https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70539563_2784465208230401_21549809429118976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQmN8WMAk3FSNi7p-5vpcjceSe6wnveWOBxTFKJDAXnKYvXESW1hAFQL5IK2_eON4g8&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=3fe95b1684d08eaa1a7b7be48e3f778a&oe=5E0FC834[/IMG]

This has been making the rounds on Facebook and I'd like to verify the authenticity of it but a quick Google search hasn't helped. I feel like it's trying to correlate winning percentage when leading at halftime but I don't have the time to articulate the numbers game-by-game. Losing after leading big at the half (let's say 10 points in the Jay Gruden era) definitely seems like a trend for Gruden though.

I also believe D.Jax when he says the Redskins lack killer instinct. And that reflects on Jay Gruden too. It's one reason why I'm in favor of moving on unless we somehow make the playoffs this year.[/quote]

My understanding it is just all about points scored regardless of if you lead at the half. So under Gruden the Redskins win the game 43% of the time while outscoring the opponent only 33% of the time in the second half.

SunnySide 09-16-2019 12:45 PM

Re: How Long Will Jay Gruden Last This Season as Head Coach?
 
[quote=5superbowls3wins;1229922]Then the decision to sit the greatest RB of this decade,

Another HORRIBLE decision by our head coach that had DISASTROUS consequences. You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games. Gruden has failed miserably in each of those areas. Why are they still paying him, and why does he still have a job?????


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Ill bite since I am somewhat of a Gruden fan, I think he would be an above average OC but not cut out for a HC. I think he deserves better than the Skins. He was never allowed to pick his assistants and has had very little to no input .. but it was nice for Doug Williams to give him a cursory call, after the fact, to let him know they were trading and backing up the Brinks truck for Alex Smith.

Guice - I think Jay likes Guice over AP. The future is Guice (maybe). But I did expect a 50/50 split in week 1 and I guess I dont value ST as much as Jay but typically you do want your 3rd back to play ST. We have Guice, CT and AP ... I would have dressed AP but a dressed AP doesnt win us or change the result of the Eagles game ino.

"You pay a head coach to make good decisions in preparing for games, getting the players preparing, setting the team up for success and making good decisions on the fly during games." -- Does he get any credit for having the team UP 17-0 early in the 2nd quarter? 20-7 at the half? Getting Case Keenum in a system to rack up 380 yds passing?

I only judge Jay for what the offense does bc he is basically just an OC with no roster or assistants input. I dont even think he has ultimate input on the run game as Callahan seems to be the main voice there.

Jay is a good OC, a competent offensive mind on a team and FO with very few competent people on the payroll.


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