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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1242747]Sure we will take burrow[/QUOTE]Or trade for a boatload of picks and let someone else take burrows. No way that scenario could play out in the Bengals favor.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242748]That's a huge risk for Bengals because there is no guarantee that Bengals get Burrows, in fact i think its safe to say burrows wouldnt make it to the giants slot.

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Agreed, some team would give the Redskins a ransom for the #2 pick.

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[quote=Giantone;1242745]Rumor mill has the Giants giving Bengals this year #1 and #5 and next years #1 . Bengals take Young and trade to the Giants for Burrow .[/quote]

You mean 5th rounder. Bengals would want at least 3 1st rounders and them some.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1242750]Agreed, some team would give the Redskins a ransom for the #2 pick.[/quote]

Carolina for sure

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[quote=Giantone;1242745]Rumor mill has the Giants giving Bengals this year #1 and #5 and next years #1 . Bengals take Young and trade to the Giants for Burrow .[/quote]

Dream on.

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Oh those January draft rumors, always so reliable


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[quote=Number44;1242764]Dream on.[/quote]

This makes no sense. Burrows wouldn’t make it past number two.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1242796]This makes no sense. Burrows wouldn’t make it past number two.[/quote]

Of course. That's one of the reasons I said dream on. Cincy would be foolish to make this trade. If for some odd reason they were to trade down, they would be passing on both Burrow and Young, and they would insist on getting a better package than this. This looks like a Giant fan's dream of how they could get Young, rather than anything that is actually being discussed.

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The draft is is still months away and we'll have the number 1 overall non-qb pick. We're gonna get months of dissecting Chase Young.

Draft that man with a smile on your face.

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[quote=Giantone;1242745]Rumor mill has the Giants giving Bengals this year #1 and #5 and next years #1 . Bengals take Young and trade to the Giants for Burrow .[/quote]

I could only hope the Giants would trty something like that

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[quote=MTK;1242771]Oh those January draft rumors, always so reliable


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Yup it's why I said it was a rumor. The Bengals need a QB put are tight with money . I could see them rolling the dice with another QB ..............Fromm , Tua etc.It's a QB heavy draft.

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Take this to the bank, the Bengals won’t pass on Burrows


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[quote=Giantone;1242745]Rumor mill has the Giants giving Bengals this year #1 and #5 and next years #1 . Bengals take Young and trade to the Giants for Burrow .[/quote]

That's crazy talk. First of all, Cincy would be crazy not to simply take Burrow for themselves at #1. They need him badly.

Secondly, neither Burrow nor Young is going to make it past the Skins at #2. If the Bengals take Young, then the Skins will either take Burrow or trade the pick for a king's ransom.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1242816]Yup it's why I said it was a rumor. The Bengals need a QB put are tight with money . I could see them rolling the dice with another QB ..............Fromm , Tua etc.It's a QB heavy draft.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what being tight with money has to do with passing on the supposed best qb in the draft. In fact being tight with money means they would want the rookie deal and top passer.

And if they did let it be known that they were trading the pick, there are a few qb hungry teams, notably Miami, with a ton of draft picks to make a more enticing deal then what Gettleman would be able or willing to offer.

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There are rumors that Rivera is calling Chase Young - the “PREDATOR”. If that rumor is true then I don’t see the Redskins taking a boatload of picks for our #2 slot.
As a defensive HC working with Del Rio, the two of them are drooling for Chase Young to play EDGE opposite Sweat, who started to come into his own in the last games. With much better coaching our 4-3 defense is going to be elite!


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[quote=Warthog;1242878]There are rumors that Rivera is calling Chase Young - the “PREDATOR”. If that rumor is true then I don’t see the Redskins taking a boatload of picks for our #2 slot.
As a defensive HC working with Del Rio, the two of them are drooling for Chase Young to play EDGE opposite Sweat, who started to come into his own in the last games. With much better coaching our 4-3 defense is going to be elite!


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Yes, it’s a no brainer to go along with our stacked D. That would make 5 1st rounders like the 49ers but better (Manusky didn’t bring out the best in them)

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[quote=Warthog;1242878]There are rumors that Rivera is calling Chase Young - the “PREDATOR”. If that rumor is true then I don’t see the Redskins taking a boatload of picks for our #2 slot.
As a defensive HC working with Del Rio, the two of them are drooling for Chase Young to play EDGE opposite Sweat, who started to come into his own in the last games. With much better coaching our 4-3 defense is going to be elite!


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The Predator has long been Chase Young's nickname. Let's not act like Rivera coined it. Do a quick Google search you'll find lots of stuff dated from the last year or so.

The dreads make it a good fit though and I've also read that Rivera is a huge fan of Chase.

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The only player I'd want if (and it won't happen) we traded #2 is Isaiah Simmons, he's a FREAK LB. Young is the guy tho

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Call Chase Predator call Montez Alien, but I look at Chase and I can see him having an impact similar to what Bosa did for San Fran, granted we don't have Richard Sherman but he can basically make it so we don't have to consistently blitz to generate pressure. Just get some backend help after that

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1242884]Call Chase Predator call Montez Alien, but I look at Chase and I can see him having an impact similar to what Bosa did for San Fran, granted we don't have Richard Sherman but he can basically make it so we don't have to consistently blitz to generate pressure. Just get some backend help after that[/quote]

We have Dunbar who when healthy is a top 10 CB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1242885]We have Dunbar who when healthy is a top 10 CB[/quote]

While this isn't a comment specific to Dunbar necessarily, 'availability' is a big part of the culture change needed around Redskins Park.

This bullshit where you get a concussion in the third preseason game and then you sit out the entire year while collecting a multi-million dollar paycheck and contemplating your retirement, that shit has to end. Concussions are serious and it's a shame Reed can never stay healthy but you need your locker room to consist of guys who want to be on the field, will work their way back onto the field, will be capable of playing through some pain, etc. If they're going to be paid highly, they need to be available.

Dunbar needs to stop having all these nagging problems or he needs to GTFO.

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[quote=Schneed10;1242887]While this isn't a comment specific to Dunbar necessarily, 'availability' is a big part of the culture change needed around Redskins Park.

This bullshit where you get a concussion in the third preseason game and then you sit out the entire year while collecting a multi-million dollar paycheck and contemplating your retirement, that shit has to end. Concussions are serious and it's a shame Reed can never stay healthy but you need your locker room to consist of guys who want to be on the field, will work their way back onto the field, will be capable of playing through some pain, etc. If they're going to be paid highly, they need to be available.

Dunbar needs to stop having all these nagging problems or he needs to GTFO.[/quote]

Agreed, while Dunbar is good when healthy he has finished I believe the last 3 years missing the final few games.

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Hopefully this new training staff can help curb some of these injury issues.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1242889]Hopefully this new training staff can help curb some of these injury issues.[/quote]

I honestly think that at least some of it is 'I don't want to play but I'd like to still collect a paycheck-itis.'

It needs to be weeded out.

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[quote=Schneed10;1242890]I honestly think that at least some of it is 'I don't want to play but I'd like to still collect a paycheck-itis.'

It needs to be weeded out.[/quote]

Or having a uber loyal coach like Gruden that wants to stick with certain players regardless of how unproductive they are due to being injury prone (i.e. Reed, Luvao, etc., etc.).

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[quote=Schneed10;1242887]While this isn't a comment specific to Dunbar necessarily, 'availability' is a big part of the culture change needed around Redskins Park.

This bullshit where you get a concussion in the third preseason game and then you sit out the entire year while collecting a multi-million dollar paycheck and contemplating your retirement, that shit has to end. Concussions are serious and it's a shame Reed can never stay healthy but you need your locker room to consist of guys who want to be on the field, will work their way back onto the field, will be capable of playing through some pain, etc. If they're going to be paid highly, they need to be available.

Dunbar needs to stop having all these nagging problems or he needs to GTFO.[/quote]

Agree, and I hate to say it but I bet some guys are taking advantage over it

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I have a feeling Rivera is going to clean house. He's got no loyalty to any of these players and, if they have a track history of missing games, what reason would he have to make them part of the team he's trying to build?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242896]I have a feeling Rivera is going to clean house. He's got no loyalty to any of these players and, if they have a track history of missing games, what reason would he have to make them part of the team he's trying to build?[/quote]

I wonder who gets the AX? Norman? RK? Trent?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1242898]I wonder who gets the AX? Norman? RK? Trent?[/quote]

yeah, I don't see any way that Norman, Reed, Kerrigan and Paul Richardson stay on the roster under their current contacts, for starters. I think Trent SHOULD be traded, but not sure what ends up happening there.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1242898]I wonder who gets the AX? Norman? RK? Trent?[/quote]

At the very least Norman and Richardson have to

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1242898]I wonder who gets the AX? Norman? RK? Trent?[/quote]

Richardson, Reed, Norman, Vernon Davis (probably will just retire anyway), Montae Nicholson all good as gone if you ask me.

Kerrigan's consecutive start streak is a testament to the fact that he's the kind of character Rivera would like to build around culture-wise, so I bet he sticks. He's going to be a declining player but his hard working mindset is an asset to Rivera. You might be able to get him at a reduced cap number but this year we have so much cap space that I'm not even worried about it.

And Trent has the pot history but he also has supreme talent and Rivera has been said to be making retaining Trent one of his top priorities. He will likely go with the blank slate mindset. If you come back we wipe it all clean and start fresh together.

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Honestly, it would not surprise me if Kerrigan signs a very team-friendly deal to stay with the team.

Also, although a bit unrelated, I have hunch that (if he is able to play again) Alex Smith will re-work his contract to lessen his contract's cap hit for next year.

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[quote=Schneed10;1242912]Richardson, Reed, Norman, Vernon Davis (probably will just retire anyway), Montae Nicholson all good as gone if you ask me.

Kerrigan's consecutive start streak is a testament to the fact that he's the kind of character Rivera would like to build around culture-wise, so I bet he sticks. He's going to be a declining player but his hard working mindset is an asset to Rivera. You might be able to get him at a reduced cap number but this year we have so much cap space that I'm not even worried about it.

And Trent has the pot history but he also has supreme talent and Rivera has been said to be making retaining Trent one of his top priorities. He will likely go with the blank slate mindset. If you come back we wipe it all clean and start fresh together.[/quote]

I know Trent is one strike away from a year suspension but honestly it was so long ago I really don't consider that to be a major factor. If he really was this massive stoner in the vein of Ricky Williams or Eugene Monroe I don't think we'd be talking about it like it's a matter of when, not if. People seem to forget Trent was a team leader and a captain before he left. Those are titles you get by earning the trust of your teammates.

Also anybody who's read about the way Ryan Kerrigan prioritizes[URL="https://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/38815/secrets-of-a-redskins-ironman-300-ounces-of-water-colt-tubs-float-pods"] taking care of his body[/URL] would realize that's exactly the kind of team leader Rivera would love. I

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If the Bengals pass on Burrows they would the dumbest team in NFL history. There’s no way they pass on this kid.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1242937]If the Bengals pass on Burrows they would the dumbest team in NFL history. There’s no way they pass on this kid.[/quote]

*Burrow

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Hopefully last night puts to bed this silliness of the Bengals passing on Burrow


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No chance they pass on him

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So that trade with the giants is a no-go now?

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From the perspective here in Columbus, Ohio, I can say it is now 100% sure that the Bungles will pick Burrow. A southern Ohio boy who is a Heisman winner, National Champion, broke every NCAA quarterback record on the books and is an eloquent spokesperson ...... they have to take him. Fans would burn down the Bengals headquarters if they passed on him.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1242943]From the perspective here in Columbus, Ohio, I can say it is now 100% sure that the Bungles will pick Burrow. A southern Ohio boy who is a Heisman winner, National Champion, broke every NCAA quarterback record on the books and is an eloquent spokesperson ...... they have to take him. Fans would burn down the Bengals headquarters if they passed on him.[/quote]

He's the real deal as long as he stays this hungry. I'd take him over Haskins and that's not a knock against Dwayne.