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[quote=Chico23231;1248500]no way trade a young defensive player especially installing a scheme which should play to his strengths.[/quote]

Facts.

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Allen also fits the versatility that RR preaches about. He can play end, as well as on the inside.


I think the two big question marks on the Skins roster right now are obviously Trent Williams, and Ryan Kerrigan. Both could be traded for something. Both have one year left on their existing contract. Both have multiple pro bowls on their resume. Both could probably benefit going to a contender in the final years of their career.

As much as I love Kerrigan, and would like him to restructure his contract to be more team friendly so he finishes his career here ...

What picks could we realistically get for RK now? Ditto TW?

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Dunbar is going to be interviewed at 2 pm on Sirius XM NFL radio. I’ll be interested to see what that #%¥$ has to say.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1248531]Dunbar is going to be interviewed at 2 pm on Sirius XM NFL radio. I’ll be interested to see what that #%¥$ has to say.[/quote]

I'm done with him.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1248492]Because he is a very good player, a team leader, and we need to[B] rotate our DL to keep them fresh[/B]. When we get Chase Young, then we can rotate Kerrigan, Young, and Sweat at DE and rotate Ioannidis, Allen, Payne, and Settle at DT. Not to mention that injuries are a reality and need to be planned for.

Why is it when we finally are about to get to the point where we have excellent depth in a group, that some of you want to trade it away?

p.s. Also because the thought of our DL, as described above, is about to give me a chubby.[/quote]

A lot of people seem to forget that. I wonder if somewhere someone has calculated how much more physically taxing it is to play DL compared to OL?

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[quote=SkinzWin;1248531]Dunbar is going to be interviewed at 2 pm on Sirius XM NFL radio. I’ll be interested to see what that #%¥$ has to say.[/quote]

I'm really surprise he's become a shitface

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[quote=Chico23231;1248536]I'm really surprise he's become a shitface[/quote]

I think he was too loyal to the previous regime, who probably promised him an extension.

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Who?


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[quote=MTK;1248539]Who?


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Dunbar. People are talking how much of a shithead he's become. I think he's salty because Bruce promised him stuff and the new regime (rightfully) wanted him to prove himself.

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Right, who?

lol


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[quote=mtk;1248542]right, who?

Lol


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lol.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1248531]Dunbar is going to be interviewed at 2 pm on Sirius XM NFL radio. I’ll be interested to see what that #%¥$ has to say.[/quote]

Cry like a jilted bitch, he’s attitude about getting paid or traded got was granted. If he tried to bluff, he sure did a shitty job.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1248531]Dunbar is going to be interviewed at 2 pm on Sirius XM NFL radio. I’ll be interested to see what that #%¥$ has to say.[/quote]


I was wallowing in the effects of COVID-19 at work and couldn’t listen. Anyone hear the interview?

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I think the Redskins could have thrown him some guaranteed money and kept him happy. He was in the same position as Trent, no guaranteed money in his last year of his contract.

Also, as has been said, Gruden and/or Bruce made him promises that he actually believed. I mean is there any agent in the NFL, or this planet, who believed anything that Bruce Allen said?

Another talented player who left largely because of Bruce Allen.


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[quote=Warthog;1248556][B]I think the Redskins could have thrown him some guaranteed money and kept him happy[/B]. He was in the same position as Trent, no guaranteed money in his last year of his contract.

Also, as has been said, Gruden and/or Bruce made him promises that he actually believed. I mean is there any agent in the NFL, or this planet, who believed anything that Bruce Allen said?

Another talented player who left largely because of Bruce Allen.


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I'd rather just trade him.

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1248556]I think the Redskins could have thrown him some guaranteed money and kept him happy. He was in the same position as Trent, no guaranteed money in his last year of his contract.

Also, as has been said, Gruden and/or Bruce made him promises that he actually believed. I mean is there any agent in the NFL, or this planet, who believed anything that Bruce Allen said?

Another talented player who left largely because of Bruce Allen.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Who knows why he left, but when a new coach is on record saying we want players who are all in and he starts by saying new deal or trade me, are we surprised when he gets traded? Not me.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1248571]Who knows why he left, but when a new coach is on record saying we want players who are all in and he starts by saying new deal or trade me, are we surprised when he gets traded? Not me.

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He demanded one of two things. He got one of them and now he's still whining. Is there any reason he and his agent couldn't ask for what they really wanted which was more money with a guaranteed amount? Lesson 1: Be careful what you ask for. Ask for exactly what you want and don't confuse the issue.

Also, they could have asked for it in private and not used social media to plead their case. His agent is about as smooth as a cobblestone road. Lesson 2: Be respectful and professional about how you negotiate and don't try to embarrass the other party.

Lesson 3: Be aware of the environment in which you are pursuing your goal. There is a new boss. He is building a team and a new culture. He wants veteran leaders and not malcontents. Plus, he's already been through enough bullshit with Trent Williams and his agent. Don't mess with the man.

Lesson 4: Get a real agent instead of some big mouth bully who thinks he can power his way to get you what you want.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1248531]Dunbar is going to be interviewed at 2 pm on Sirius XM NFL radio. I’ll be interested to see what that #%¥$ has to say.[/quote]

I missed the interview, let me take a wild guess what he said.

"The Redskins are a bunch of bitches, glad I'm with a real team now. No sheisters in Seattle either, they don't lie to your face, just straight honesty from the start. Fuck DC. Have fun being mediocre losers. QD47 out"

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Let's change the subject from assholes who don't wear the uni anymore to a guy who did more in 3 1/2 seasons than Dunbar will ever do.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20848497/remembering-sean-taylor-washington-redskins-oral-history-breakout-game[/url]

Today would've been Sean Taylor's 37th birthday. Happy birthday meast. RIP.

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Heard on the radio this morning from teh skins beat reporter for the richmond dispatch..

VA has more season ticket holders than MD

Training Camp will be held at the same location as the new stadium, as an added bene to the teams sales pitch to MD, DC and VA localities.

Springfield mall area -- where he thinks it will ultimately be. Thinks everyone wants RFK but its just not possible. As a Marylander, it looks kinda deep into VA, that commute for Montgomery and Frederick County will be brutal .. 495 to 95 then down 95.

Plus VA cops and troopers are the fucking worst when it comes to pulling people over. If you go something like 16 mph over the speed limit, you get a ticket for reckless driving, have to hire one of their "local" attorneys, pay a fine, go to driving school .... they use tickets as fixed income for their budgets.

[url]https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7781398,-77.1702468,15.25z[/url]

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Sunny, I live just south of Springfield on 95.

My conclusion is that if the stadium is going to be in Springfield, the best bet is the site of the current GSA warehouse just south of Springfield Mall. Definitely not far down 95, and within walking distance of Franconia-Springfield metro. It's right off the Beltway in the same way Fedex is.

Secondly, you know I agree with you on plenty, including how much cops and troopers love to write tickets around here (I just passed a speed trap at 4:45 this morning on Route 1, luckily he sits in the same spot every time so I know better than to speed there). But you do not get a ticket for reckless for going 16 over. My last ticket (admittedly in 2010) was for going 56 in a 35, and the Fairfax County officer told me he could charge me for reckless since it was 20 over but since it was next to Five Guys HQ in Lorton (not a developed area) he just charged me for ordinary speeding. I still speed every day but I've been able to avoid speeding tickets for 10 years now by just going with the flow of traffic. If they're doing 70-80, so am I. Doing 60, so am I.

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[quote=mooby;1248747]Sunny, I live just south of Springfield on 95.

My conclusion is that if the stadium is going to be in Springfield, the best bet is the site of the current GSA warehouse just south of Springfield Mall. Definitely not far down 95, and within walking distance of Franconia-Springfield metro. It's right off the Beltway in the same way Fedex is.

Secondly, you know I agree with you on plenty, including how much cops and troopers love to write tickets around here (I just passed a speed trap at 4:45 this morning on Route 1, luckily he sits in the same spot every time so I know better than to speed there). But you do not get a ticket for reckless for going 16 over. My last ticket (admittedly in 2010) was for going 56 in a 35, and the Fairfax County officer told me he could charge me for reckless since it was 20 over but since it was next to Five Guys HQ in Lorton (not a developed area) he just charged me for ordinary speeding. I still speed every day but I've been able to avoid speeding tickets for 10 years now by just going with the flow of traffic. If they're doing 70-80, so am I. Doing 60, so am I.[/quote]

1. Im sure Ive driven by that area on 95 a million times but dont remember it. A google view shows lots of bars, restaurants, etc and the metro right there.

from the time of crossing American Legion bridge to springfield, how long do you think it would be drive wise?


2. my girlfriend apparently was doing 86 in a 70, and she was told everything over 80 is reckless. she had to hire a local attorney ($250), pay a fine and court costs of close to $300, driving school was $60 for a day seminar.

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[quote=SunnySide;1248749]1. Im sure Ive driven by that area on 95 a million times but dont remember it. A google view shows lots of bars, restaurants, etc and the metro right there.

[B]from the time of crossing American Legion bridge to springfield, how long do you think it would be drive wise? [/B]


2. my girlfriend apparently was doing 86 in a 70, and she was told everything over 80 is reckless. she had to hire a local attorney ($250), pay a fine and court costs of close to $300, driving school was $60 for a day seminar.[/quote]


Three days.

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[quote=SunnySide;1248739]Heard on the radio this morning from teh skins beat reporter for the richmond dispatch..

VA has more season ticket holders than MD

Training Camp will be held at the same location as the new stadium, as an added bene to the teams sales pitch to MD, DC and VA localities.

[B]Springfield mall area -- where he thinks it will ultimately be.[/B] Thinks everyone wants RFK but its just not possible. As a Marylander, it looks kinda deep into VA, that commute for Montgomery and Frederick County will be brutal .. 495 to 95 then down 95.

[B]Plus VA cops and troopers are the fucking worst when it comes to pulling people over. If you go something like 16 mph over the speed limit, you get a ticket for reckless driving, have to hire one of their "local" attorneys, pay a fine, go to driving school .... they use tickets as fixed income for their budgets. [/B]

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My girlfriend lives just a couple miles from the Springfield Mall, if they put a new stadium in that area it would be a traffic nightmare getting in and out. That area is jammed up enough as it is.

You are right about the police here, 11 over can get you reckless in a 70. They also write tickets for chicken crap stuff other cops won't. I got an expired inspection sticker ticket from a county sheriff. I was trying to find myself on the court docket so I could pay it ASAP and forget about it. I decided to start counting up all the cases by officers names, it was easy to estimate many of them were writing 20-30 tickets a day. They were also throwing the book at people. There were a lot of tickets with 4-5 infractions on them. I knew plenty of cops from many generations back when I was in Cali, common practice depending on the perp's attitude was to just write for the most serious offense and knock it down a notch. Not the guys here, I saw one guy got reckless for 81 in a 70, plus expired inspection sticker, with cracked windshield and improperly installed child seat.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248751]My girlfriend lives just a couple miles from the Springfield Mall, if they put a new stadium in that area it would be a traffic nightmare getting in and out. That area is jammed up enough as it is.

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Metro - im guessing more than 50% of the fans will take it vs driving. You lose that tailgate atmosphere though.

But anything is better than the current fed Ex.

Caps and Nats games are all metro fans and, while its not 70K fans, the metro to caps and nats games have always been easy and quick for me.

VA - surprisingly, one of the few states that gave me a break criminal charge wise .. twice!

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[quote=SunnySide;1248752]Metro - im guessing more than 50% of the fans will take it vs driving. You lose that tailgate atmosphere though.

But anything is better than the current fed Ex.

Caps and Nats games are all metro fans and, while its not 70K fans, the metro to caps and nats games have always been easy and quick for me.

[B]VA - surprisingly, one of the few states that gave me a break criminal charge wise .. twice![/B][/quote]

Aren't you lucky. My girlfriend's two stupid sons got into a bar fight, with each other. One of them just turned 21 and had a few too many. The fight happened when the older brother tried to get the other one to leave as he was starting to cause trouble. The cops actually even piled domestic violence charges on top of everything because they were related. The judge tossed all the charges against the older one out and hit the younger one for drunk in public. Most cops I used to know would have called those guys a cab and said they don't want to hear from them again.

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Can't do that anymore people film everything nowadays.

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[quote=SunnySide;1248749]1. Im sure Ive driven by that area on 95 a million times but dont remember it. A google view shows lots of bars, restaurants, etc and the metro right there.

from the time of crossing American Legion bridge to springfield, how long do you think it would be drive wise?


2. my girlfriend apparently was doing 86 in a 70, and she was told everything over 80 is reckless. she had to hire a local attorney ($250), pay a fine and court costs of close to $300, driving school was $60 for a day seminar.[/quote]

Depends on traffic, during rush hour that could be 1-1.5hr. Not gonna sugarcoat it, the springfield interchange sees 250k vehicles a day according to VDOT. Metro would def. soak up a lot of people who don't want to deal with the traffic. Danny would be wise to do what the Nats did and create something similar to the bullpen next to it where people can pregame all day. Of course the consumer would get ripped off because you're paying ballpark prices for pregame beers. Should be right up Danny's alley though. My beef with the GSA space is it seems small once you factor in parking/etc. A lot of people would lose out on tailgating at the car if Danny built parking garages.

Also duh, there's literally a sign everywhere coming into VA stating anything over 80 is reckless. My one reckless ticket (got it when I was 19, doing 90/60) just came off my record a year ago. I had to pay $480, judge didn't cut me any breaks, lesson learned. Nowadays I don't do anything faster than 80, even then my sweet spot is right at or above 75. You're playing with fire if you choose to go above 80 on any interstate highway in VA.

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Either this guy or Thad Moss will be our TE next year.

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/4/2/21203781/is-adam-trautman-the-redskins-answer-at-te[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1248747]Sunny, I live just south of Springfield on 95.

My conclusion is that if the stadium is going to be in Springfield, the best bet is the site of the current GSA warehouse just south of Springfield Mall. Definitely not far down 95, and within walking distance of Franconia-Springfield metro. It's right off the Beltway in the same way Fedex is.

Secondly, you know I agree with you on plenty, including how much cops and troopers love to write tickets around here (I just passed a speed trap at 4:45 this morning on Route 1, luckily he sits in the same spot every time so I know better than to speed there). But you do not get a ticket for reckless for going 16 over. My last ticket (admittedly in 2010) was for going 56 in a 35, and the Fairfax County officer told me he could charge me for reckless since it was 20 over but since it was next to Five Guys HQ in Lorton (not a developed area) he just charged me for ordinary speeding. I still speed every day but I've been able to avoid speeding tickets for 10 years now by just going with the flow of traffic. [B]If they're doing 70-80, so am I. Doing 60, so am I.[/B][/quote]

Bold move Cotton! J/K. I don't drive very fast on freeways anymore even if I'm on the road by myself. I don't care about driving fast nowadays, I just care about moving down the line. But on residential, if a light is red for no reason, I go through that 60% of the time, every time. There is a new complex by my work that is on my way home from work (similar but slightly different route to work), that literally every single signal is broken. I mean like, if I'm going straight, from the opposite side, the left hand turn light will turn green when no one is going left, while I sit there with my thumb up my ass. That took me around twice to treat that intersection as a suggestion. Eventually I'm gonna get a $500 dollar ticket for going through that light, even though its 100% justified.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1248765]Either this guy or Thad Moss will be our TE next year.

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/4/2/21203781/is-adam-trautman-the-redskins-answer-at-te[/url][/quote]

Check out Cole Kmet of Notre Dame and Harrison Bryant of Florida Atlantic. They are also good prospects, IMO. I read somewhere that the Skins were interested in Kmet.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1248780]Check out Cole Kmet of Notre Dame and Harrison Bryant of Florida Atlantic. They are also good prospects, IMO. I read somewhere that the Skins were interested in Kmet.[/quote]

Kmet is a late first or early 2nd who is a bad blocker, not very likely. Trautman in the 3rd makes sense.... or Bryant in the 4th.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248772]Bold move Cotton! J/K. I don't drive very fast on freeways anymore even if I'm on the road by myself. I don't care about driving fast nowadays, I just care about moving down the line. But on residential, if a light is red for no reason, I go through that 60% of the time, every time. There is a new complex by my work that is on my way home from work (similar but slightly different route to work), that literally every single signal is broken. I mean like, if I'm going straight, from the opposite side, the left hand turn light will turn green when no one is going left, while I sit there with my thumb up my ass. That took me around twice to treat that intersection as a suggestion. Eventually I'm gonna get a $500 dollar ticket for going through that light, even though its 100% justified.[/quote]

Where I live in Central Virginia all lights are on timers, not a single one is on a sensor. I wouldn't dare run a red light around here as there are cops hiding in places you would never see them in other states.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248786]Where I live in Central Virginia all lights are on timers, not a single one is on a sensor. I wouldn't dare run a red light around here as there are cops hiding in places you would never see them in other states.[/quote]

Famous wit Dave Barry once described the State of Maryland as "a speed trap between Delaware and Virginia". I'd say that's about right.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1248793]Famous wit Dave Barry once described the State of Maryland as "a speed trap between Delaware and Virginia". I'd say that's about right.[/quote]

I have only been in Maryland a handful of times, mostly to fetch machine shop supplies out of Baltimore. I noticed two things a lot, many of the roads in poor shape, some of it reminded me of driving in Tijuana Mexico. Another thing seemed to be areas where the posted speed limits were much lower than similar roads would be in other states.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248786]Where I live in Central Virginia all lights are on timers, not a single one is on a sensor. I wouldn't dare run a red light around here as there are cops hiding in places you would never see them in other states.[/quote]

Bon you live in Richmond too? Hi, neighbor!

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[quote=SkinzWin;1248799]Bon you live in Richmond too? Hi, neighbor![/quote]

I am about 40 miles northwest of Richmond. I am in Caroline County, but on the edge of Spotslyvania and Hanover counties. I have ran into guys that have lived for a long time in the Richmond area and don't know where Beaverdam is. The place is famous for General Custer burning down the train station down 3 times during the civil war.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1248765]Either this guy or Thad Moss will be our TE next year.

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/4/2/21203781/is-adam-trautman-the-redskins-answer-at-te[/url][/quote]

I really like Moss. He reminds me of Evan Engram. May not have the ideal size but is athletic and has great hands. Perfect 3rd round pick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1248807]I really like Moss. He reminds me of Evan Engram. May not have the ideal size but is athletic and has great hands. Perfect 3rd round pick.[/quote]Yes agreed. Need to land him. Reminds me of Jermaine Gresham (OU) coming out of the draft. Would be thrilled to get him in this draft.

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2: R1p2 - edge chase young - ohio state
66: R3p2 - wr laviska shenault jr. - colorado
108: R4p2 - s ashtyn davis - california
142: R4p36 - te thaddeus moss - lsu
162: R5p16 - cb troy pride jr. - notre dame
216: R7p2 - ot jack driscoll - auburn
229: R7p15 - ot terence steele - texas tech