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[quote=MTK;1247934]Who says he was going to be cut though? They just resigned him a few weeks ago. Maybe he gets cut in training camp but we can't afford to be in wait and see mode.[/quote]

That's true, the PJ Walker craze has taken over.. He looked good in the XFL.. Whole different ball game in the NFL

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1247935]That's true, the PJ Walker craze has taken over.. He looked good in the XFL.. Whole different ball game in the NFL[/quote]

Different talent level is the main thing.

If Kyle Allen becomes our new Colt McCoy I don't mind the 5th rounder given up.

It's a good deal for me because Haskins will have a new friend (that doesn't mind being a backup) that can help him learn the system. With the irregular offseason thanks to coronavirus obviously they don't want Haskins' development hampered.

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[quote=MTK;1247921]A 5th rd pick for a QB with experience and he knows the system? I don’t see what the commotion is all about.

[B]He fills a significant need. He could be our long term backup.[/B]


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Or our starter.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1247937]Or our starter.[/quote]

Yeah I'm not sold he's just a backup yet

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[quote=mooby;1247817]You're crazy if you think Allen is starting if Haskins has a bad camp.[/quote]

Call me crazy but again, the new coaches have zero loyalty to Haskins. They don't know him, they didn't draft him. I haven't heard RR say, "DH is our starter."

They just gave up a draft pick for a guy that basically started for RR all of last year. If you think Allen is coming here just to be a back up I'm going to call you crazy.. lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1247940]Call me crazy but again, the new coaches have zero loyalty to Haskins. They don't know him, they didn't draft him. I haven't heard RR say, "DH is our starter."

They just gave up a draft pick for a guy that basically started for RR all of last year. If you think Allen is coming here just to be a back up I'm going to call you crazy.. lol.[/quote]

The coaching staff have zero loyalty to Haskins, but it'd ridiculous to think that the coaching staff is not going to try to make things work with Haskins.

If RR wanted a starter, he would have gone after the likes of Cam, Dalton, or Winston. Kyle Allen is a solid backup, that can start if something terrible happens, and may be enough to push Haskins. But this is not an indictment on Haskins by RR.

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If we brought in Cam Newton there would be a very good reason to question Haskins future here. But Kyle Allen? C'mon.

Why would Rivera commit to Haskins before the draft when there's still a possibility a team could trade up if they think we could be interested in Tua?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1247937]Or our starter.[/quote]

In the very short run until Haskins gets up to speed with the offense, assuming we have little to no offseason program? Sure, maybe. That's about as far as I'd go.

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No disrespect to Kyle Allen but cream rises to the top I expect DH to be our starter. Please stop with all the drama.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1247935]That's true, the PJ Walker craze has taken over.. He looked good in the XFL.. Whole different ball game in the NFL[/quote]

I don't know if it's really a craze. It's probably not as much about how good he looked in the XFL as compared to the fact that he played for Rhule at Temple for four years. He knows what he's getting, and probably feels PJ is as good a fit as anyone at the moment to come in and be a capable backup to TB in his system.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1247952]No disrespect to Kyle Allen but cream rises to the top I expect DH to be our starter. Please stop with all the drama.[/quote]

Well let it rise ... I hope you are correct!

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[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/ron-rivera-says-dwayne-haskins-redskins-qb1-so-chase-young-lock-no-2[/url]

As I've been saying, Allen was the perfect QB for this situation. A QB that can technically compete and push Haskins, but in the end he's a quality back up and can start if something terrible happens.

Kudos to RR for not adding any unnecessary drama to the off season in terms of QB. And I'm glad to see that he and his staff are willing to work with Haskins, and of course Haskins is willing to work with them.

The best outcome for RR and the Redskins is for Haskins to continue his improvement from last season and become the franchise QB many of us thinks he will be.

Looking forward to having Chase Young on the team next month.

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[quote=MTK;1247943]If we brought in Cam Newton there would be a very good reason to question Haskins future here. But Kyle Allen? C'mon.

Why would Rivera commit to Haskins before the draft when there's still a possibility a team could trade up if they think we could be interested in Tua?[/quote]

I seriously believe Rivera would have brought in Newton if he thought he had anything left. The fact he didn't pretty much shows Newton isn't what he used to be and probably will end up a back up.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1247841]Problem is, trading up for a DE would be hard to imagine.. The Bears already regret dealing that 1 for Mack[/quote]

The Bears traded 2 first rounders for Mack. They fought they were one piece away from going to a Superbowl, gambled wrong and have slowly paid the price since. I don't see many teams doing the same thing after that.

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1248380]The Bears traded 2 first rounders for Mack. They fought they were one piece away from going to a Superbowl, gambled wrong and have slowly paid the price since. I don't see many teams doing the same thing after that.[/quote]

Teams with a starting caliber quarterback will be more willing to trade up. Teams like the Bears with a back up quarterback like Trubisky probably shouldn’t seeing as nothing is going to help if you don’t have a good QB.

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Our friend Bucky Brooks saying Kyle Allen will be the starter week 1

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[quote=Chico23231;1248596]Our friend Bucky Brooks saying Kyle Allen will be the starter week 1[/quote]

I can definitely see that, especially if there is no real offseason for Haskins to get comfortable with the offense.

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Eh, I think Haskins still wins out. Just listened to Keim’s podcast and he said Dwayne is putting in the work on and off the field, he’s been studying Panthers game film with his QB guru.


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[quote=MTK;1248600]Eh, I think Haskins still wins out. Just listened to Keim’s podcast and he said Dwayne is putting in the work on and off the field, he’s been studying Panthers game film with his QB guru.


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Counterpoint, Haskins missed his first v-formation because he was too busy taking selfies with fans.

Boom. Roasted.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1248596]Our friend Bucky Brooks saying Kyle Allen will be the starter week 1[/QUOTE]He is another that had the skins mocked for Tua. Now he has Allen QB1... Geez

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248621]He is another that had the skins mocked for Tua. Now he has Allen QB1... Geez

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Well he is taking the cowherd approach, name them all over time and he will be right

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D Hall on Total access "I think Kyle Allen will win the job "

"I don't see Dwayne Haskins responding to coach Rivera, these young kids want everything handed to them"

WOW That is a huge statement

David Carr " Maybe the Redskins should trade Haskins"

Damn did we all miss something?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248629]D Hall on Total access "I think Kyle Allen will win the job "

"I don't see Dwayne Haskins responding to coach Rivera, these young kids want everything handed to them"

WOW That is a huge statement

David Carr " Maybe the Redskins should trade Haskins"

Damn did we all miss something?[/quote]

God damn it sfok. Until Kyle Allen is named the starter you are never going to convince me of anything.

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LOL. Shit is getting wild in here. Kyle "John Elway" Allen is about to be the league MVP this year and Haskins will be delivering Amazon packages soon.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248634]LOL. Shit is getting wild in here. Kyle "John Elway" Allen is about to be the league MVP this year and Haskins will be delivering Amazon packages soon.[/quote]

LOL I was shocked at D Hall's comments and predictions.. He basically threw Haskins under the bus and he also admitted that he was a fan of his last yr..

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DH will eventually be our STARTING QB for years to come. We need to have his back during this process there's nothing wrong with competition but we as a fan base always want the new shiny thing. We don't like to develop anything.

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I mean, I don't think it's out of the question. Sure DH has the inside track to the starting QB position, but if there is a limited offseason (or no offseason), I don't think it's out of the question for RR to start the season with the QB he is most familiar with, and who knows and has played in the system. I do hope DH is putting in the necessary work, study, etc. as best he can given the current situation...I'd rather him be the starter from day 1.

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The way Haskins reacts to being the backup would be telling and maybe that is the idea from RR, maybe he wants to find out what sort of Pro he is

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248629]D Hall on Total access "I think Kyle Allen will win the job "

"I don't see Dwayne Haskins responding to coach Rivera, these young kids want everything handed to them"

WOW That is a huge statement

David Carr " Maybe the Redskins should trade Haskins"

Damn did we all miss something?[/quote]

Yawn. This means nothing. What's the old saying, opinions are like assholes....

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I equate what DHall said to click bait


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[quote=MTK;1248663]I equate what DHall said to click bait


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Didn't he want to become part of the FO? Maybe he's a little bitter

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[quote=skinsfan69;1248662]Yawn. This means nothing. What's the old saying, opinions are like assholes....[/quote]

So true.

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[quote=MTK;1248663]I equate what DHall said to click bait


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Yeah he's apart of that world now.

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Well I'll say this, Haskins BETTER be working his ass off and doing everything possible to learn as much of this offense as he can right now, because Allen is walking through the door day 1 of whenever they can get going knowing this offense inside and out and already has a good relationship with the OC and RR. RR doesn't owe Haskins anything, and he and Turner are gonna start whoever they feel gives them the best chance to win on week 1, not who they think the long term solution should be.

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Serious question. Has anybody, heard anything, from any reputable source, that Dwayne Haskins is doing anything less than working his ass off this offseason? I literally have heard or read nothing that indicates Haskins is sitting on his ass so far in 2020.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1248683]Serious question. Has anybody, heard anything, from any reputable source, that Dwayne Haskins is doing anything less than working his ass off this offseason? I literally have heard or read nothing that indicates Haskins is sitting on his ass so far in 2020.[/QUOTE]


I’ve only heard that he’s putting in the work on and off the field and has been watching Panthers film. But people would rather believe the opposite it seems.


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[quote=mooby;1248683]Serious question. Has anybody, heard anything, from any reputable source, that Dwayne Haskins is doing anything less than working his ass off this offseason? I literally have heard or read nothing that indicates Haskins is sitting on his ass so far in 2020.[/quote]

No one has reported that to my knowledge. Look I want and hope DH is the starter here for MANY years to come, but we all heard that he didn't come in last year "working his ass off" is what I was referring to, so I'm just hoping he is this offseason.

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[quote=mooby;1248683]Serious question. Has anybody, heard anything, from any reputable source, that Dwayne Haskins is doing anything less than working his ass off this offseason? I literally have heard or read nothing that indicates Haskins is sitting on his ass so far in 2020.[/quote]

I haven't heard anything indicating he's sitting on his ass. I'm sure he's doing what he can. My point is simply that I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Kyle Allen starts the season since he is most familiar with, and has played in the offense they will deploy. Especially, if there is an abbreviated offseason. He may just give them a better chance to compete right away.

I'm routing for DH. If he's putting in the work, the coaches are satisfied with his progress, and they think he gives them an equal to or better chance to win, then he'll probably get the nod.

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He's always posting videos of training

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JP FINLAY " DHall is well informed inside the organization"

When people were calling Hall out for dogging Haskins