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davy 09-06-2023 08:10 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1344478]The game is sold out. SOLD OUT!! This ain't a bunch of Cardinals fans coming either.

I think the fan base is plenty positive and ready to roll. Except maybe Davy, his post just made me curl up in the corner.[/quote]

Sorry, not being negative just for the sake of it. I'm really looking forward to the season. Just want to be realistic.

:)

skinsfaninok 09-06-2023 08:31 AM

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If they lose Sunday they might as well fire Ron right there and then

mooby 09-06-2023 08:34 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1344478]The game is sold out. SOLD OUT!! This ain't a bunch of Cardinals fans coming either.

I think the fan base is plenty positive and ready to roll. Except maybe Davy, his post just made me curl up in the corner.[/quote]

Speaks volumes about how excited the fanbase is that Dan is gone.

My hope is we turn out well enough that we give a home field advantage to the team and they handle business against a clearly inferior Cards team.

punch it in 09-06-2023 08:41 AM

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[QUOTE=davy;1344480]Sorry, not being negative just for the sake of it. I'm really looking forward to the season. Just want to be realistic.

:)[/QUOTE]


Yup. Me too. Not sure why a wait and see, prove it on the field attitude is met with such ire from the kool aid drinkers? Lol. Especially with this team.
There are pros, what appear to be a better quarterback. Our fans coming back. Secondary should be better with Forbes. There are cons, our oline still stinks (idgaf if it is better than last year, 5 blocking dummies would be too). Chase Young still can’t get on the field. Our HC is dead man walking. LB corp is still shit. Schedule is tough.

Pointing the obvious positives and negatives out shouldn’t make me a homer mcfan boy or a doom and gloom. I have no idea if this team will win 12 games or 4. Nobody does.

My gut tells me we hover around.500 until we have one more offseason. However I do believe we are headed in the right direction for one obvious reason. The head of the snake was cut off. Doesn’t mean the body isn’t still wriggling around for one more season until a competent owner fixes it.

irish 09-06-2023 08:54 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1344481]If they lose Sunday they might as well fire Ron right there and then[/quote]

I agree. This is as close to a sure thing this team has had in a loooong time and Ron has to have them ready to go from the first whistle. This game will be closer than it should be but I think the Commanders get the win and Ron stay for another week.

MTK 09-06-2023 09:06 AM

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I doubt new ownership is looking to can Ron right off the bat or even during the season. Definitely wouldn't be a good look for them.

Chico23231 09-06-2023 09:32 AM

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Welcome back Jaminson Crowder to the practical squad

mooby 09-06-2023 09:32 AM

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[quote=MTK;1344485]I doubt new ownership is looking to can Ron right off the bat or even during the season. Definitely wouldn't be a good look for them.[/quote]

It would be Danny-esque to fire a coach midseason in your first year of ownership.

Harris isn't that dumb. Ron gets the whole year unless things go horribly off schedule and he has some sort of health issue that allows him to gracefully step down.

I still think he retires at the end of the year if no playoffs or quick playoff exit.

Ruhskins 09-06-2023 09:43 AM

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[quote=davy;1344476]Wasn't it you who thought we would be much better last year because Wentz was a massive upgrade at QB? How'd that work out?

Leno deteriorated badly last year and unless he is Lazarus chances are he will be worse this year. People think Wiley is an upgrade simply because he came from the Chiefs, truth is he is garbage. Our guards are failed tackles and our centre is coming off a bad injury who has looked really poor in limited action since.

Improved???[/quote]

I guess you know better than some of the people who cover the team and can give an objective opinion. You should email John Keim and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about.

punch it in 09-06-2023 09:46 AM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1344485]I doubt new ownership is looking to can Ron right off the bat or even during the season. Definitely wouldn't be a good look for them.[/QUOTE]


Probably not, but it could be viewed as cutting all ties with anything DS and getting your people in there. If they gave EB the interim position it would also be a positive spin.

I definitely do not think they will do it but I just don’t think it would be as bad a look because of the situation.

MTK 09-06-2023 09:47 AM

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The OL has to be improved over last year, how much is the question. EB's schemes can certainly help as well.

Ruhskins 09-06-2023 09:51 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1344489]Probably not, but it could be viewed as cutting all ties with anything DS and getting your people in there. If they gave EB the interim position it would also be a positive spin.

I definitely do not think they will do it but I just don’t think it would be as bad a look because of the situation.[/quote]

Unless the team truly implodes, I doubt that happens. Mid-season firings are seldom seen as justifiable (except recently for Urban Myers) and more of a sign of a team management dysfunction.

MTK 09-06-2023 09:55 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1344489]Probably not, but it could be viewed as cutting all ties with anything DS and getting your people in there. If they gave EB the interim position it would also be a positive spin.

I definitely do not think they will do it but I just don’t think it would be as bad a look because of the situation.[/quote]

Zero chance Harris fires Ron during the season.

punch it in 09-06-2023 10:01 AM

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Oh if i had to wager there is no way i say he gets fired. Just speaking hypothetically that if it did I don’t think it would be looked at as dysfunctional but as cleaning house. I agree with you though Ruh they would have to completely implode. “Hey we wanted to give Ron one more chance - we saw enough “.

But, again, I think Ron has a full season to show something because we aren’t going to implode.

SFREDSKIN 09-06-2023 10:28 AM

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Welcome back Jameson Crowder, signed to PS.

Ruhskins 09-06-2023 10:31 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1344494]Welcome back Jameson Crowder, signed to PS.[/quote]

This raised an eyebrow for me. I hope this is not connected to Terry's injury.

punch it in 09-06-2023 10:33 AM

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God I hope not. Just a seasoned veteran and former player worthy of a ps spot I hope.

SFREDSKIN 09-06-2023 10:51 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1344495]This raised an eyebrow for me. I hope this is not connected to Terry's injury.[/quote]

We need a better returner than Milne, Crowder was our returner a few years back.

Chico23231 09-06-2023 11:10 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1344495]This raised an eyebrow for me. I hope this is not connected to Terry's injury.[/quote]

I’m waiting for the injury report today…need to see what it says for CY, Fuller, Terry , Jonathan Allen and Logan Thomas

punch it in 09-06-2023 11:51 AM

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Young. Lol. No way he plays. Over under is a return by Thanksgiving.

MTK 09-06-2023 12:45 PM

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"I'll tell you who looks like an absolute beast on tape - and I know everybody's going to talk about Jahan Dotson and how he's going to have a breakout year and could be a Pro Bowl type of player, and I don't disagree with that. But Saahdiq Charles is absolutely freakin' killing people on tape. Just KILLING people. There were dozens of rewindable moments in preseason where I was like, 'Holy shit, this guy is a one-man wrecking crew.' And, like, really good technique. Great steps, good hands. I was thoroughly impressed with the way he played."

- Mark Schlereth

SFREDSKIN 09-06-2023 01:05 PM

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[quote=MTK;1344501]"I'll tell you who looks like an absolute beast on tape - and I know everybody's going to talk about Jahan Dotson and how he's going to have a breakout year and could be a Pro Bowl type of player, and I don't disagree with that. But Saahdiq Charles is absolutely freakin' killing people on tape. Just KILLING people. There were dozens of rewindable moments in preseason where I was like, 'Holy shit, this guy is a one-man wrecking crew.' And, like, really good technique. Great steps, good hands. I was thoroughly impressed with the way he played."

- Mark Schlereth[/quote]

That’s why they’ve been patient with him.

sdskinsfan2001 09-06-2023 01:08 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1344502]That’s why they’ve been patient with him.[/quote]

It would be nice if he could play in at least 10 games this season.

GridIron26 09-06-2023 01:15 PM

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[quote=MTK;1344501]"I'll tell you who looks like an absolute beast on tape - and I know everybody's going to talk about Jahan Dotson and how he's going to have a breakout year and could be a Pro Bowl type of player, and I don't disagree with that. But Saahdiq Charles is absolutely freakin' killing people on tape. Just KILLING people. There were dozens of rewindable moments in preseason where I was like, 'Holy shit, this guy is a one-man wrecking crew.' And, like, really good technique. Great steps, good hands. I was thoroughly impressed with the way he played."

- Mark Schlereth[/quote]

I suppose this explains why the coaches have been holding onto him ever since we drafted him. Unfortunately this will not mean anything if he cannot stay on the field. The coaches could at least refer him to a personal trainer who can teach him to take care of his body.

EdmundDorf 09-06-2023 01:49 PM

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John Keim -

Terry McLaurin is in pads and catching passes before practice. Not doing any running yet.

EdmundDorf 09-06-2023 01:52 PM

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J P Finlay -

Logan Thomas and Chase Young both dressed for practice

Ruhskins 09-06-2023 02:05 PM

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A video clip of Terry at practice courtesy of Nicki J.

[url]https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1699482820282884311[/url]

Chief X_Phackter 09-06-2023 02:08 PM

Re: Washington vs Card Pre Game
 
[quote=davy;1344476]Wasn't it you who thought we would be much better last year because Wentz was a massive upgrade at QB? How'd that work out?

Leno deteriorated badly last year and unless he is Lazarus chances are he will be worse this year. People think Wiley is an upgrade simply because he came from the Chiefs, truth is he is garbage. [B]Our guards are failed tackles[/B] and our centre is coming off a bad injury who has looked really poor in limited action since.

Improved???[/quote]

Brandon Scherff is a failed tackle too I guess.

Many college Tackles transition to Guard at the NFL level, and some of them do quite well.

I've heard nothing but good things about Gates, the rookie Stromberg, and Charles.

Let's see what happens on Sunday. I think the unit will surprise some.

EdmundDorf 09-06-2023 02:11 PM

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I am more worried about the actual tackles, the interior OL is better than some are giving credit for

Chico23231 09-06-2023 02:30 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;1344504]I suppose this explains why the coaches have been holding onto him ever since we drafted him. Unfortunately this will not mean anything if he cannot stay on the field. The coaches could at least refer him to a personal trainer who can teach him to take care of his body.[/quote]

Exactly, he can’t stay on the field. Even when he’s been on in regular season, he’s just avg.

Prove me wrong Charles

MTK 09-06-2023 02:47 PM

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Health is obviously key for Charles, just like plenty of other guys. But he definitely seems to have stepped up his play.

calia 09-06-2023 02:57 PM

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Dobbs starting for the Cards. Josh, meet Montez and Chase.

Let’s go!!


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SFREDSKIN 09-06-2023 03:07 PM

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[quote=calia;1344512]Dobbs starting for the Cards. Josh, meet Montez and Chase.

Let’s go!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

Poor kid better get life insurance

MTK 09-06-2023 03:24 PM

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The Commanders announce their team captains for 2023:

Terry McLaurin
Sam Howell

Jonathan Allen
Kendall Fuller

Tress Way
Jeremy Reaves

- Ben Standig

Hoglips 09-06-2023 03:38 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1344506]J P Finlay -

Logan Thomas and Chase Young both dressed for practice[/quote]

When is the last time THAT happened?

KI Skins Fan 09-06-2023 04:28 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1344508][B]Brandon Scherff is a failed tackle too I guess. [/B]

Many college Tackles transition to Guard at the NFL level, and some of them do quite well.

I've heard nothing but good things about Gates, the rookie Stromberg, and Charles.

Let's see what happens on Sunday. I think the unit will surprise some.[/quote]

I somehow posted the same thing twice. Hearing my opinion once is bad enough. Sorry.

KI Skins Fan 09-06-2023 04:31 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1344508][B]Brandon Scherff is a failed tackle too I guess. [/B]

Many college Tackles transition to Guard at the NFL level, and some of them do quite well.

I've heard nothing but good things about Gates, the rookie Stromberg, and Charles.

Let's see what happens on Sunday. I think the unit will surprise some.[/quote]

Brandon Scherff was drafted to play guard. Some "experts" may have written otherwise but he came here to play guard.

This idea that Out of Date Ron has that NFL players should be able to play multiple positions is long gone in the NFL. Players are now drafted to play one position which is hard enough to learn in itself in today's cerebral NFL. By moving rookies around in practice Ron does more to confuse them and retard their development than anything else.

KI Skins Fan 09-06-2023 04:43 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1344509]I am more worried about the actual tackles, the interior OL is better than some are giving credit for[/quote]

On the plus side, we have one of the better blocking TE's in the league and I've noticed that our RB's are pass protecting much better than last season, so EB should be able to figure out what needs to be done.

EdmundDorf 09-06-2023 05:17 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1344520]On the plus side, we have one of the better blocking TE's in the league and I've noticed that our RB's are pass protecting much better than last season, so EB should be able to figure out what needs to be done.[/quote]

Lets hope so, I am ready for a professional NFL offense for a change, don't want to be averaging under 20pts per game ever again

MTK 09-06-2023 05:18 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1344518]Brandon Scherff was drafted to play guard. Some "experts" may have written otherwise but he came here to play guard.

This idea that Out of Date Ron has that NFL players should be able to play multiple positions is long gone in the NFL. Players are now drafted to play one position which is hard enough to learn in itself in today's cerebral NFL. By moving rookies around in practice Ron does more to confuse them and retard their development than anything else.[/quote]

Well they did try him at right tackle early on, but he struggled and Morgan Moses was coming into his own at that time so they quickly moved BS inside. If we didn’t have Moses who knows, maybe BS would have been a so so RT instead of a pro bowl guard.

[url]https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2544916-brandon-scherffs-position-change-should-worry-washington-redskins.amp.html[/url]


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