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itvnetop 09-12-2005 06:00 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]It should be remembered that the strength of our team is our defense and our running game. It's as simple as that. So while I enjoy seeing big plays and an exciting aerial attack, the best QB for [I]this[/I] team is not necessarily one who's going to be make SportsCenter's Top 10. It's someone who puts the game in the hands of our defense and running game, and doesn't take opportunities away from them. I believe Ramsey is fully capable of being that QB. He doesn't need to be a superstar highlight reel to lead this team. Just a smart QB.
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This is exactly what I was thinking... I just believe Gibbs doesn't trust Ramsey's decision-making skills quite yet. Yesterday, he proved he can move the ball against a solid defense. But he still hasn't shown he can not turn the ball over.

I'm not sure increased game experience can fix the problems that Ramsey has right now- it's not a matter of him growing in the offense... it comes down to keeping the ball out of the defense's possession. It's smarts that Gibbs feels shouldn't be gained during Sundays at full tilt.

kingerock 09-12-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
i think it boils down to just that: turnovers.

If you can't protect the ball, I don't care that you can put up 300+. I like Ramsey alot, but he just hasn't gotten the job done. It's gotta suck for him and the inconsistancy around him. But I think Gibbs sees what I and alot of others see. If we can just get someone to manage the game and put Portis and the defense in a position to make plays we'll do alright this season.

SmootSmack 09-12-2005 06:08 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=kingerock]If we can just get someone to manage the game and put Portis and the defense in a position to make plays we'll do alright this season.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That's what we did yesterday. And most of our wins will probably come that way.

jdlea 09-12-2005 06:09 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
Okay, I hope Brunell starts the rest of the season. Then, we'll see how well everything goes.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-12-2005 06:09 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=itvnetop]This is exactly what I was thinking... I just believe Gibbs doesn't trust Ramsey's decision-making skills quite yet. Yesterday, he proved he can move the ball against a solid defense. But he still hasn't shown he can not turn the ball over.

I'm not sure increased game experience can fix the problems that Ramsey has right now- it's not a matter of him growing in the offense... it comes down to keeping the ball out of the defense's possession. It's smarts that Gibbs feels shouldn't be gained during Sundays at full tilt.[/QUOTE]

I know increased game experience will only help him, but seriously, when is his time?

If Brunell is starting based on the fact that Ramsey is hurt, that's one thing. If it's not, I for one, think this may be some of the last times that we see Ramsey.

Something told me that Brunell would make it in early in the season.

Big C 09-12-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
the reason brunell wasnt taken out when ramsey was cleared was this

1. Precautionary reasons for Ramsey

2. Why take Brunell out when our offense is getting in rhythm with him in there?

saskin 09-12-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
I just heard Ramsey came out and said he wants to be traded....

overthehillgang 09-12-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
Good point, the Bears defense was nasty.

I wasn't too surprised Gibbs announced the Brunell would start. I feel sorry for Ramsey - has he had a fair shot? Unfortunately our hated Cowboys looked real good.

It is a shame our QBs stink. How good was S. Moss, L. Betts and Portis?

Begging for just 1 win at Dallas...even if it is 3-2.

overthehillgang 09-12-2005 08:25 PM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
It would be very interesting to ask the Redskin receivers and the other players who THEY would want as their QB.

offiss 09-13-2005 01:24 AM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Exactly. That's what we did yesterday. And most of our wins will probably come that way.[/QUOTE]


Do you really believe we will win games playing the way we played yesterday on offense?

Do you really beleive we will run the ball effectivly with Brunell in there? All we heard all offseason is how we have to throw the ball downfield to get the D to stop bringing 8 men into the box, well good luck with that, we now have recievers that Brunell can't reach downfield, so what do we think will happen, teams will start stacking the box again and grind our offense to a halt.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-13-2005 01:31 AM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]As for the QB debate, Ramsey didn't do anything to lose the job. If he's ready and able he should continue to be the starter.[/QUOTE]

Matty, not to be a nut buster, but why did you change your mind?

RedskinPete 09-13-2005 04:54 AM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
If I could talked to Ramsey it would go like this....grow up man and take it like a man. Work hard and get yourself right! You are not ready. You will at some point be asked to QB this team again. So shut up be a professional and get the work you need done!!! You have bad foot work, passes are high and you need to know where every one in the O is doing. Take a few notes out of P Mannning book!!!! Learn when to run and when to throw it away. To ask to be traded now makes you look like a ass. If I can't start I going home and take my ball with me! You are not a kid and this isn't play ground football. This is the NFL and it mean Not for Long if you don't get to work and start getting better at the things that you are not good at!

That Guy 09-13-2005 06:29 AM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=RedskinPete]If I could talked to Ramsey it would go like this....grow up man and take it like a man. Work hard and get yourself right! You are not ready. You will at some point be asked to QB this team again. So shut up be a professional and get the work you need done!!! You have bad foot work, passes are high and you need to know where every one in the O is doing. Take a few notes out of P Mannning book!!!! Learn when to run and when to throw it away. To ask to be traded now makes you look like a ass. If I can't start I going home and take my ball with me! You are not a kid and this isn't play ground football. This is the NFL and it mean Not for Long if you don't get to work and start getting better at the things that you are not good at![/QUOTE]

why the hell would he believe you? you spent months declaring him the starter and pulled him after 19 minutes. And with campbell sitting around, why would ANYONE honestly believe he's going to get another shot? He's been a man about it, and thi is about the 4th time gibbs has made a BIG move to prove he doen't like ramsey.

RedskinPete 09-14-2005 03:56 AM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]why the hell would he believe you? you spent months declaring him the starter and pulled him after 19 minutes. And with campbell sitting around, why would ANYONE honestly believe he's going to get another shot? He's been a man about it, and thi is about the 4th time gibbs has made a BIG move to prove he doen't like ramsey.[/QUOTE]

Like? This isn't about like or dislike! :frusty: It's about a QB that isn't getting the job done! If he was we wouldn't be having this thread! All pre season Ramsey missed high and looked like a player not ready to take on this job! Is this mean he will not be ready? No! He needs to work harder and make himself the QB of the Washington Redskins. I wish he was the man but he is not ready! Gibbs is a good man and Like or dislike as nothing to do with this!

That Guy 09-14-2005 06:48 AM

Re: Official Bench Ramsey / Start Brunell Thread
 
[QUOTE=RedskinPete]Like? This isn't about like or dislike! :frusty: It's about a QB that isn't getting the job done! If he was we wouldn't be having this thread! All pre season Ramsey missed high and looked like a player not ready to take on this job! Is this mean he will not be ready? No! He needs to work harder and make himself the QB of the Washington Redskins. I wish he was the man but he is not ready! Gibbs is a good man and Like or dislike as nothing to do with this![/QUOTE]

thats nice, but that's in no way a response to my arguement that telling ramsey to grow up and believe whats gibbs tellss him would work. Maybe he wasn't getting the job done, in 19 minutes its pretty hard to tell. But i didn't mention his performance of lack thereof ONCE. I just said that if you think he's going to continue to be happy while gibbs goes around cheating with every girl in town, you're probably wrong. that's it, so i don't know why you quoted me in your last post.


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