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Joey-T bets against us
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent?week=2[/url]

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Well, I dispute that Chicago has no running game: Jones rushed for 1000 yards last year despite not starting every game - much like his baby brother Julius - and I suspect their rookie RB Benson will garner some attention before the year is out.[/QUOTE]

Hey Brud,

I thought Julius (Dallas) and Kevin (Detroit Lions) were brothers, not this kid from Chicago?

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Hey Brud,

I thought Julius (Dallas) and Kevin (Detroit Lions) were brothers, not this kid from Chicago?[/QUOTE]

Julius and Thomas are brothers

[url]http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9361442/[/url]

I think someone had posted this story in some other thread

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[QUOTE=TAKFAS][QUOTE=12thMan]Hey Brud,

I thought Julius (Dallas) and Kevin (Detroit Lions) were brothers, not this kid from Chicago?[/QUOTE]

Julius and Thomas are brothers

[url]http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9361442/[/url]

I think someone had posted this story in some other [/QUOTE]

This is why I'm a friggin' genius.

jk

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me......bowing down paying homage to Friggin' Genius:)

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]I hate to do this, but ... even at the risk of being a called a "[I]so-called fan[/I]", here's my prediction:

Cowboys 27
Redskins 6

The 'boys put 28 points on a good Charger defense in San Diego, while we were good for 9 against the Bears with home field advantage.

Last year, with Testaverde at QB, the Cowboys had no problem getting 21 points through the air with almost no running game, and somehow Dallas always seems to be able to stuff our run whether it's Stephen Davis or Clinton Portis, who last year, was a non-factor.

To me, it doesn't look good for the Skins at all.[/QUOTE]

There is no logic with your prediction. If we have a better defense than the Chargers, how can you predict Dallas scoring one less point than they did against the Chargers? That's crazy. I don't know about you, but this game is the beginning of a new era in Redskins football. Mark (Brunell) my words. The Redskins win this game easily 31-13. The tide has turned. The Gibbs pass offense will be in the house. We throw at Terrance Newman and burn his ass. By the way, the Redskins defense is ranked #2 in the NFL and offense #16 in the NFL. Ahead of Dallas, Giants and Eagles in both statistics.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]There is no logic with your prediction. If we have a better defense than the Chargers, how can you predict Dallas scoring one less point than they did against the Chargers? That's crazy. I don't know about you, but this game is the beginning of a new era in Redskins football. Mark (Brunell) my words. The Redskins win this game easily 31-13. The tide has turned. The Gibbs pass offense will be in the house. We throw at Terrance Newman and burn his ass. By the way, the Redskins defense is ranked #2 in the NFL and offense #16 in the NFL. Ahead of Dallas, Giants and Eagles in both statistics.[/QUOTE]


I pray you are right, but it just doesn't seem likely. I don't think we've made the offensive strides necessary.

To answer the question about the D-fense above I think our offense is to blame. #1 our D will be on the field more b/c the o sucks #2 our inept offense will give the cowboys better starting field position. I think that justifies the prediction now whether he took that into account I don't know.

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The story on this game seems to be Bledsoe against Williams. If Williams can befuddle Bledsoe and the Skins defense can score, I think we win the game.

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If the defense can hold dallas (lowercase on purpose) to 17 or less points I think we win. The good news is...I don't think dallas can score 17 Monday night.

Washington 20
Dallas 13

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]The betting folks have us as big favorites
36-6
[url="http://www.linesandodds.com/nfl-lines.php3"]http://www.linesandodds.com/nfl-lines.php3[/url][/QUOTE]

Slinging Sammy, I think you have misread the line, they are not predicting a Redskins victory of 36-6. That 36 is the over under, basically the odds makers are saying it will be a low to moderate scoring game, if you look at Oakland vs. KC the over under is 53. All of the favorite teams have the smaller of the two number, so for the line you posted they have the Cowboys as a six point favorite. I hope you are not making bets, if misunderstood the line to be a 36-6 Redskins victory, please do not take this as a personal attack either.

-D

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I think this game will prove how good our defense is because I dont think we deserve the 1# defense title until we show it against a worthy offense.

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I think this is going to be a low scoring game, for the Redskins to win, Dallas will have to be held to two touchdowns or less. I cannot get a good feel for this game and I think that the Skins are going to have to play flawlessly to win, which is going to make it difficult for them to win.

Until we see consitent performance and scoring from the offense it is hard to say otherwise, our current track record on offense has been one of low scoring and scoring less than 21 pts a game. I think it is a lot to ask of the Skins to play flawlessly, but until the offense gets its act together that is going to be the case. The Redskins, cannot have turnovers, big penalities, or mistakes in the kicking game/special teams, also the running game will have to effective and Washington will have to control time of possesion. The Defence is going to have to shoulder the heavy burden, of not giving up any big plays down field, or committing penalties to give the Cowboys second chances. My big fear is that the defence will get worn down from being on the field and give up the one big play to the Cowboys.

I am going to be an fan, though, cannot pick the Cowboys

Redskins 16 3 FG, Portis breaks one for a TD
Cowboys 14 Bledsoe 1 TD 3 INTS, Dallas D returns Brunell pick for TD

The kid from Maryland becomes a hometown hero, which could prove lucrative look at what Jess Atkins parlayed his Redskins job into being a sports caster.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]There is no logic with your prediction. If we have a better defense than the Chargers, how can you predict Dallas scoring one less point than they did against the Chargers? That's crazy. I don't know about you, but this game is the beginning of a new era in Redskins football. Mark (Brunell) my words. The Redskins win this game easily 31-13. The tide has turned. The Gibbs pass offense will be in the house. We throw at Terrance Newman and burn his ass. By the way, the Redskins defense is ranked #2 in the NFL and offense #16 in the NFL. Ahead of Dallas, Giants and Eagles in both statistics.[/QUOTE]

SUNRA I suspect you posted what you posted because Beemnseven predicted a Cowboy victory. However I don't think you follow your own advice about demonstrating logic in your own post. You post does not have much logic to support the opinion that you state that the offense will be much improved and put up 31 points on the Cowboys. I think it is mostly wishful thinking on your part.

STPainmaker, gives a logical explanation of how Beemnseven could arrive at his prediction.

[QUOTE=STPainmaker] <SNIP>

To answer the question about the D-fense above I think our offense is to blame. #1 our D will be on the field more b/c the o sucks #2 our inept offense will give the cowboys better starting field position. I think that justifies the prediction now whether he took that into account I don't know

<SNIP>.[/QUOTE]

Given the recent history of the Redskins versus the Cowboys and Gibbs versus Parcells, it is easy to see why many fans do not feel confident about the Redskins winning, this does not make them anyless of fans. Nor does it make their posts not logical. Logically speaking, my thinking regarding this game is more along the lines of Beemsnseven. Being a fan though, I predicted a low scoring Redskins victory, and the logic behind it.

There have been calls for unity amongst those of us who form Redskin Nation, and I agree. I even made an effort to honor the original poster's request to not mention the QB issue. I know I have posted some inflammatory remarks in other threads becuase I was angry with the choice for I thought, here we go again, last years ugly offense all over again. I am probably skirting the line with that last comment and my prediction of a Brunell INT returned for a Dallas TD. With that said I am not going to post anything more about Brunell in this thread.

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the people predicting dallas to win cant possibly be skins fans

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[QUOTE=jtm74]the people predicting dallas to win cant possibly be skins fans[/QUOTE]

How do you figure? I was born in this area, but at an early stage in life my father decided that our family needed to go back to his roots and move to Maine. As a consequnce I became a big Red Sox fan, and even after moving back to the DC area have remained a Red Sox fan since DC did not have a baseball team in 1981 when we moved back.

I can tell you right now that I always have a sense of dread and apprehension when the Red Sox play the Yankees, and will often predict the Yankees to beat the Red Sox, it does not by any stretch of the imagination make me less of a Red Sox fan. I can tell you right now, when the Sox were down three games to none in the ALCS last year that I was not real confident with there chances especially after the Yankees won 19-8 in the second Boston Massacare. When the Sox won game four my feeling was, well at least they are putting up a fight and will not get swept, I did not like there chance until they won the fifth game, and even then I was pessimistic until the last game and Johnny Damon hit the grand slam.

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i never understood how betting worked? what the hell does the over under have to do with anything? as for the topic at hand, our defense is good enough to keep opponents out of the endzone if, and only if, our opponents have a long drive ahead of them. but the reason our opponents score points is because they force turnovers in our side of the field. example: we would've shut out the bears if our special teams hadn't fumbled the ball in an easy spot for the bears to score. i think the real key isn't how good our defense performs, it's whether we turn the ball over in excellent position for the cowboys to score.

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[QUOTE=ladyfan06]It is okay to believe that our team is not the absolute best, that is being realistic and that is fine but you guys are talking like we are about to play the New England Patriots or something.....DALLAS SUCKS and they are not all that great either!!![/QUOTE]




Your faith inspires me and like I said I really want to be wrong cause
[size=6]I hate[/size] [size=7]Dallas![/size]
When I see someone wearing one their Jerseys I want to deport them to Cuba !

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]Joey-T bets against us
[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent?week=2"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/talent?week=2[/url][/QUOTE]

how can he predict us into a superbowl and not pick us to beat the cowboys?

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Welcome Blue Star.

If, as you say, there's "nothing with being honest with yourself", then 31-10 is a great pick.

I, however, believe there's nothing [i]wrong[/i] with being honest with yourself. And if you think the Cowboys are rolling up 31 points on our defense, then save me some of what your smoking.[/QUOTE]

Thanks BrudLee.
Washington defense really hasn't been tested. Dallas got tested last week and stopped LT from reaching the century mark for rushing yards and all purpose yards. The bears offense is = to the redskins offense. Im not saying Dallas offense is = to the colts in anyway. Dallas offense can do some damage. No pierce like last year or Smoot.I didnt see washington play last week but I was expecting a little more than 3 fgs. I cant smoke anything right now. LOL. I see a lot of turnovers in this. so I will revise it and say final score Dallas 23 Washington 13

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]There is no logic with your prediction. If we have a better defense than the Chargers, how can you predict Dallas scoring one less point than they did against the Chargers? That's crazy. I don't know about you, but this game is the beginning of a new era in Redskins football. Mark (Brunell) my words. The Redskins win this game easily 31-13. The tide has turned. The Gibbs pass offense will be in the house. We throw at Terrance Newman and burn his ass. By the way, the Redskins defense is ranked #2 in the NFL and offense #16 in the NFL. Ahead of Dallas, Giants and Eagles in both statistics.[/QUOTE]

OK HaHaHa

Couldn't read more posts after this 1 you're really high to first believe that your offense can score 31 points to any team less the cowboys and after you only could put 9 last week.

Second you're proud of having the 16 offense IN YARDS but only score 3 field goals, I take our 4 td any day of the week, and 4 out of 4 in the redzone.

Now you have a good defense that played vs a really crapy Chicago offense you can't really think your D was really tested last week if you had held KC or IND to 6 points I would be jumping in your bandwagon But Chicago thats like saying the Giants are going to the SB after they humiliated Arizona come on

This will be a close game and will be hard hitting low scoring 1 but I haven't seen anything of your offense to believe that you could take this game and in Dallas sorry

We have some holes and rookies pn d and they will surrender a td to portis but we have 2 many options in offense as the Chargers found out Keyshawn,Glenn, Clayton, Witten, Jones and now Price just wonder who will be able to cover them we don't need a #1 receiver just playmakers and thats what we have

Dal 17
Skins 10

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[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]How do you figure? I was born in this area, but at an early stage in life my father decided that our family needed to go back to his roots and move to Maine. As a consequnce I became a big Red Sox fan, and even after moving back to the DC area have remained a Red Sox fan since DC did not have a baseball team in 1981 when we moved back.

I can tell you right now that I always have a sense of dread and apprehension when the Red Sox play the Yankees, and will often predict the Yankees to beat the Red Sox, it does not by any stretch of the imagination make me less of a Red Sox fan. I can tell you right now, when the Sox were down three games to none in the ALCS last year that I was not real confident with there chances especially after the Yankees won 19-8 in the second Boston Massacare. When the Sox won game four my feeling was, well at least they are putting up a fight and will not get swept, I did not like there chance until they won the fifth game, and even then I was pessimistic until the last game and Johnny Damon hit the grand slam.[/QUOTE]

When someone claims to believe in their team and then predicts that teams defeat against their rivals is beyond comprehension. All the years that Boston loss, some peple never counted Boston out. It takes a bold person to route for your team inspite of the rival.

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Washington 27
Dallas 10

And we thought our QB problems are big look for the Cowboys to see this light!!!!

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[QUOTE=Blue Star]whats up Blue Star here checking in from cowboysboard.com

Theres nothing with being honest with yourself. When the cowboys played the eagles monday night last season I knew they were gonna get killed and they did.

Final Cowboys 31 Skins 10[/QUOTE]

What drugs are you on???? :vomit-smi You might be right that the Cowgirls might win but 31 points no way! :lol:

:dallas: :dallas: :dallas: :dallas:

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I think what a lot of people are overlooking is the fact Williams coached Bledsoe for two years in Buffalo, so it's the old story of [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/16/AR2005091601697.html"]pupil vs. teacher[/url].

This could definitely be a big advantage for our D.

Anyone who thinks Bledsoe is going to have a repeat performance of his week 1 showing is sadly mistaken in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I was kind of hopping Arrington might end Bledsoe NFL days!!! :food-smil

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My thought is Dallas 24 skin's 13

But this is a game we could actually win, I call it a culmination game, and that means everything that went on this week will culminate in a victory, the tension and controversy could serve to really focus us and some how squeek out a victory. I have a feeling we may score a couple of defensive TD's this game, Bledsoe is just the man for that.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]There is no logic with your prediction. If we have a better defense than the Chargers, how can you predict Dallas scoring one less point than they did against the Chargers? That's crazy.[/QUOTE]

Because a better defense usually indicates the possibility that the opposing team won't score as many points. How is that illogical?

Also notice Sunra, that I didn't include how I thought the points would come. One of them might be kick or punt return. Another could be from a defensive touchdown off a fumble or interception.

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24-13, Cowboys. I hope I'm wrong and Brunell throws for 350 yards and 4 touchdowns. We'll see...

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[QUOTE=joecrisp]Sadly, Beemnseven, I think you're right on the money. :(

I don't think it will matter whether Ramsey or Brunell is the quarterback in this one. Ramsey would get eaten alive by their blitz, and Brunell's not aggressive enough to punish the Dallas D for clamping down on Portis like a pack of wild dogs.

I also watched the Chargers game last weekend, and Dallas impressed me-- particularly their offense. The Redskins defense is still good, but I don't like the offense's chances against the Dallas D. The offense won't be able to sustain drives or maintain possession long enough to keep the defense fresh, and Parcells will just start wearing them down with the running of Julius Jones.

Of course, the Skins could do the same thing to Bledsoe that the Cowboys would've done to Ramsey: ship him out of the stadium in a body bag. Both QBs are sitting ducks to a blitz-happy defense. If the Redskins decommission Bledsoe, they have a chance. Otherwise, I see Bledsoe making just enough big plays through the air to keep the defense honest and give Jones enough wiggle room on the ground to wear down the defensive front.

This game is in Dallas. It's Parcells knowing every move Gibbs is going to make. It's the recent history of Dallas dominance over Washington. It's the blind referees that always seem to follow Washington around to every crucial matchup. It's the one game that I dread every year, because the next day I inevitably have to face all those pompous, sneering Cowboy fans and hear "how 'bout them Cowboys?" hollered across the office building every time the game is brought up in conversation. It's not going to be any different this year.

Cowboys 27, Redskins 6.[/QUOTE]

Williams knows Bledsoe which balances the equation. I think this is a game of turnovers. Who is most likely to turn the ball over? I think this game reveals how good our defense really is and the genius of Greg Williams.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]When someone claims to believe in their team and then predicts that teams defeat against their rivals is beyond comprehension. All the years that Boston loss, some peple never counted Boston out. It takes a bold person to route for your team inspite of the rival.[/QUOTE]

I predicted the Redskins to win in a tight game 16-14. Regarding the Yankees and Red Sox, it is a different story, the Redskins don't have things like Bucky "Bleeping" Dent, and Aaron "Bleeping" Boone or the saga of Grady Little "Brain". Only because Kurt Schilling is probably one of the greatest big game pitchers of all time did they win against the Yankees. I remember clashing with you last year on Ramsey/Brunell, I am not going to waste my time this year.

You never backed up your prediction of the Skins putting up 31 points on the Cowboys D. How do you figure that?

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[QUOTE=STPainmaker]You got point Blue star and I think we will lose but a little closer than your prediction Dallas 16 Skins 13 in OT.[/QUOTE]

Well, we haven't seen Brunell in an entire game, so the cloud of scepticism is legitimate. Brunell played a decent game last season against Dallas and definitley looks better than the year before. If he can hold on to the ball and not create turnovers, the Redskins win by their defense alone.

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[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]I predicted the Redskins to win in a tight game 16-14. Regarding the Yankees and Red Sox, it is a different story, the Redskins don't have things like Bucky "Bleeping" Dent, and Aaron "Bleeping" Boone or the saga of Grady Little "Brain". Only because Kurt Schilling is probably one of the greatest big game pitchers of all time did they win against the Yankees. I remember clashing with you last year on Ramsey/Brunell, I am not going to waste my time this year.

You never backed up your prediction of the Skins putting up 31 points on the Cowboys D. How do you figure that?[/QUOTE]

Like everyone on this thread, my 31-13 prediction is a speculative prediction that could be classified as wishful thinking or confidence in this team led by a healthy Mark Brunell. I think the inclusion of Moss and Patten adds a feature to the passing game that we have lacked for a long time. The ability to catch the ball and carry it for 15 to 25yds. is something the Redskins will do against a suspect Dallas secondary. I do not believe Brunell will turn the ball over, which is consistent with his play in preseason and last weeks game. Gibbs mentioned in a press conference, "You are going to see a different Redskins team on Monday Night." I believe him.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]Williams knows Bledsoe which balances the equation. I think this is a game of turnovers. Who is most likely to turn the ball over? I think this game reveals how good our defense really is and the genius of Greg Williams.[/QUOTE]

A lot of coaches know the book on Bledsoe, since he's been in the league so long and his flaws and weaknesses are well-documented (sits in the pocket like a statue, prone to mistakes and turnovers, tends to crumble under pressure). Hopefully, Williams's experience with Bledsoe will be beneficial for the Washington defense on Monday night, but Wade Phillips has plenty of experience coaching against Bledsoe, and it didn't seem to help the Chargers defense in Week 1.

The Chargers were able to sack Bledsoe 4 times last week, but Bledsoe did not turn the ball over, despite the pressure from the Charger defense. The Redskins defense could be more effective at pressuring and confusing Bledsoe, but they will need to force turnovers in order to give the Redskins offense a chance to score, and that's where I start to get concerned.

The Redskins' defense may indeed fare better against the Cowboys than the Chargers did-- at least initially-- but the Redskins' offense is unlikely to be as successful as the Chargers were. In fact, I would say that this Redskins offense is more likely to turn the ball over and present more scoring opportunities for the Cowboys, even with Brunell at quarterback. And with Brunell at quarterback, the offense will probably see more three-and-out drives, since Brunell-- like Brees-- is less likely to attempt the "riskier" throw that will probably be necessary to move the ball against this Cowboys defense. That puts the Redskins' defense at a disadvantage.

I think this game will be close early on, but as the defense spends more and more time on the field, and Julius Jones gets to keep pounding away at them, the Cowboys offense will start finding chinks in Gregg Williams' armor.

This game really could go either way, and I agree it will be a defensive struggle, but I'm giving the Cowboys the homefield nod. Their defense will benefit from the crowd noise and force more turnovers and three-and-outs than the Redskins defense will be able to overcome. The offense would need to play virtually flawless football, and I just don't see that happening. It never does against the Cowboys.

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I think the whole greg williams knows bledsoe argument is overrated. That also means Bledsoe knows williams. You think that Parcells isnt sending the kitchen sink at bledsoe this week in practice?

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[QUOTE=joecrisp]A lot of coaches know the book on Bledsoe, since he's been in the league so long and his flaws and weaknesses are well-documented (sits in the pocket like a statue, prone to mistakes and turnovers, tends to crumble under pressure). Hopefully, Williams's experience with Bledsoe will be beneficial for the Washington defense on Monday night, but Wade Phillips has plenty of experience coaching against Bledsoe, and it didn't seem to help the Chargers defense in Week 1.

The Chargers were able to sack Bledsoe 4 times last week, but Bledsoe did not turn the ball over, despite the pressure from the Charger defense. The Redskins defense could be more effective at pressuring and confusing Bledsoe, but they will need to force turnovers in order to give the Redskins offense a chance to score, and that's where I start to get concerned.

The Redskins' defense may indeed fare better against the Cowboys than the Chargers did-- at least initially-- but the Redskins' offense is unlikely to be as successful as the Chargers were. In fact, I would say that this Redskins offense is more likely to turn the ball over and present more scoring opportunities for the Cowboys, even with Brunell at quarterback. And with Brunell at quarterback, the offense will probably see more three-and-out drives, since Brunell-- like Brees-- is less likely to attempt the "riskier" throw that will probably be necessary to move the ball against this Cowboys defense. That puts the Redskins' defense at a disadvantage.

I think this game will be close early on, but as the defense spends more and more time on the field, and Julius Jones gets to keep pounding away at them, the Cowboys offense will start finding chinks in Gregg Williams' armor.

This game really could go either way, and I agree it will be a defensive struggle, but I'm giving the Cowboys the homefield nod. Their defense will benefit from the crowd noise and force more turnovers and three-and-outs than the Redskins defense will be able to overcome. The offense would need to play virtually flawless football, and I just don't see that happening. It never does against the Cowboys.[/QUOTE]

Didnt your mama ever tell you, "If you can't say nothin nice, don't say nothin at all."

Seriously I think we beat the cowboys this time. Gibbs has a lot to prove in this game and we're going up against a Defense who depends on new players in key positions. I think Joe Gibbs will use that to his advantage and we will run on the new 3-4 defense enough to get them to stack the box, I just hope we have an answer for that. Pressure is our game, and we usually only shoot ourselves in the foot when we try to deviate from that game plan on D.

Skins 17
Dallas 9

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16-13 skins

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Washington 17
Dallas 10

Your right Joe doesnt have a great record agianst Parcells, but i think that it is time that we end this loseing streak agianst the Cowboys.

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I slept with a Redskins fan last night and we are going to stick it the Redskins like I stuck it to her last night! and yes it was a blow out.

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[QUOTE=agolland]16-13 skins[/QUOTE]


Welcome agolland! Look forward to more posts from you!

I agree! 16-13 Skins! I agree with Lady, where is the Skin support?

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[QUOTE=TaylorsNotGuilty]I think the whole greg williams knows bledsoe argument is overrated. That also means Bledsoe knows williams. You think that Parcells isnt sending the kitchen sink at bledsoe this week in practice?[/QUOTE]

Ask Bledsoe about facing Belichick

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Dallas 24
Wash 6

The skins are never in this game right from the beginning.