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sand how old are you and how many of the 5 super bowl victories by the cowboys were you alive for?ive been a fan since 1969 and vince lombardi coaching our beloved skins.i probably know more about your teams history than you.for a fan of a team that has dominated us for about the last decade,your sound like someone who is crying about recent history.dont worry,theres always next year NOT go skins

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[QUOTE=dmek25]sand how old are you and how many of the 5 super bowl victories by the cowboys were you alive for?ive been a fan since 1969 and vince lombardi coaching our beloved skins.i probably know more about your teams history than you.for a fan of a team that has dominated us for about the last decade,your sound like someone who is crying about recent history.dont worry,theres always next year NOT go skins[/QUOTE]

Old enough to have seen every single Super Bowl the Cowboys have played in. Old enough to remember Don Merideth as a Dallas QB. Old enough that in the late '70s I was honored to have dinner with Tony Dorsett. Old enough to watch Dat Nguyen grow up in Rockport, Texas watch him play high school, college and pro football. Old enough to remember screaming at the TV for the Dallas defense to find a way, find any way to stop John Riggins. God that guy ran ALL OVER the Cowboys,

BTW I am not crying about recent history, it was 5Rings and I that were the two Dallas fans to actually come back to your forum after that spanking last Sunday. I was also one of the first Dallas fans to come back in here and congratulate you on a dominant and well earned win.

It just tweaked my nose when after a season sweep, and a dominating win on your home field that it did not seem to be enough for some in this forum that they had to dig in for more and accuse Roy Williams of being a "dirty tackler" in the same game where a Redskin LB laid a late hit after the whistle on Witten and injured him. If you want to accuse me of crying about something, well that is the reason.

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Dewd they made a NEW RULE because of his dirty shots and horse collar tackels.

That's like Al Capone bragging about new TAX Laws...that put him away for life.
lol

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he is..........a dirty player....

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack]Old enough to have seen every single Super Bowl the Cowboys have played in. Old enough to remember Don Merideth as a Dallas QB. Old enough that in the late '70s I was honored to have dinner with Tony Dorsett. Old enough to watch Dat Nguyen grow up in Rockport, Texas watch him play high school, college and pro football. Old enough to remember screaming at the TV for the Dallas defense to find a way, find any way to stop John Riggins. God that guy ran ALL OVER the Cowboys,

BTW I am not crying about recent history, it was 5Rings and I that were the two Dallas fans to actually come back to your forum after that spanking last Sunday. I was also one of the first Dallas fans to come back in here and congratulate you on a dominant and well earned win.

It just tweaked my nose when after a season sweep, and a dominating win on your home field that it did not seem to be enough for some in this forum that they had to dig in for more and accuse Roy Williams of being a "dirty tackler" in the same game where a Redskin LB laid a late hit after the whistle on Witten and injured him. If you want to accuse me of crying about something, well that is the reason.[/QUOTE]

Friend if you still think Marcus Washington laid a late hit on Witten then obviously we disagree on what a [i][b]late hit actually is.[/b][/i]

The guy was still in bounds, I repeat in bounds, and moving forward. The ball wasn't dead, and to the best of my recollection (sp) the whistle hadn't blown yet.

So please tell me again, how in the world does this qualify as a late hit??

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Like the words Roy Williams and dirty have never been spoken together outside of this forum. Give me a break guy.

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[QUOTE=wewhite3]he is..........a dirty player....[/QUOTE]

WeWhite, what's up with the quote and the Falcons helmet?

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Friend if you still think Marcus Washington laid a late hit on Witten then obviously we disagree on what a [i][b]late hit actually is.[/b][/i]

The guy was still in bounds, I repeat in bounds, and moving forward. The ball wasn't dead, and to the best of my recollection (sp) the whistle hadn't blown yet.

So please tell me again, how in the world does this qualify as a late hit??[/QUOTE]

Well we agree to disagree then, I have gone back to my DVR a few times and watched that hit and the whistle had clearly blown. I agree that forward progress had not been stopped, and I agree that Witten was still in bounds. I believe that the whistle was pre-mature. And when the ref made the call over his stadium microphone he said that the penalty was for a hit AFTER THE WHISTLE, he did NOT say it was for a hit out of bounds. If the whistle had not blown, it would have been a good clean hit. But the fact is, the whistle had blown and the hit was clearly after the fact.

But even though the whistle was pre-mature, it was still blown and the play is dead, regardless if it was "ref error" or not. Even if Witten was in bounds and progress had not been stopped, once the whistle blows the ball cannot be advanced and the official would have marked him down at the spot where the whistle was blown.

I cannot say that Washington did this on purpose. That would be purely out of context for the situation. It was the Cowboys second possesion of the game, it was the 1st quarter, the addreniline for all players had to be on overdrive, two biggest rivals in the game with play-off implications for each team. Anybody, Cowboy or Redskin could have done the same thing it that scenario.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack]Well we agree to disagree then, I have gone back to my DVR a few times and watched that hit and the whistle had clearly blown. I agree that forward progress had not been stopped, and I agree that Witten was still in bounds. I believe that the whistle was pre-mature. And when the ref made the call over his stadium microphone he said that the penalty was for a hit AFTER THE WHISTLE, he did NOT say it was for a hit out of bounds. If the whistle had not blown, it would have been a good clean hit. But the fact is, the whistle had blown and the hit was clearly after the fact.

But even though the whistle was pre-mature, it was still blown and the play is dead, regardless if it was "ref error" or not. Even if Witten was in bounds and progress had not been stopped, once the whistle blows the ball cannot be advanced and the official would have marked him down at the spot where the whistle was blown.


I cannot say that Washington did this on purpose. That would be purely out of context for the situation. It was the Cowboys second possesion of the game, it was the 1st quarter, the addreniline for all players had to be on overdrive, two biggest rivals in the game with play-off implications for each team. Anybody, Cowboy or Redskin could have done the same thing it that scenario.[/QUOTE]


I watched the replay and as Witten spun away from the intial tackle he partially stepped out of bounds as he was trying to go forward, no way for a player to make that call that he was out of bounds, the ref made a bad call there, especially against a player like Witten who breaks a lot of tackles, no way was that a dirty hit, Witten was defiently going forward, and his forward progress was never stopped.

As for the whistle I didn't hear one before the hit, if there was one the ref was at fault, because there is no way he should have blown the whistle that early, you can't blame Washington there.

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beer belly roy williams is even more overrated than old man joe gibbs, and thats pretty bad
:headbange

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[QUOTE=denim_monger]beer belly roy williams is even more overrated than old man joe gibbs, and thats pretty bad
:headbange[/QUOTE]

Son, why don't you go your homework?

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[QUOTE=denim_monger]beer belly roy williams is even more overrated than old man joe gibbs, and thats pretty bad
:headbange[/QUOTE]

lol

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack]Old enough to have seen every single Super Bowl the Cowboys have played in. Old enough to remember Don Merideth as a Dallas QB. Old enough that in the late '70s I was honored to have dinner with Tony Dorsett. Old enough to watch Dat Nguyen grow up in Rockport, Texas watch him play high school, college and pro football. Old enough to remember screaming at the TV for the Dallas defense to find a way, find any way to stop John Riggins. God that guy ran ALL OVER the Cowboys,

BTW I am not crying about recent history, it was 5Rings and I that were the two Dallas fans to actually come back to your forum after that spanking last Sunday. I was also one of the first Dallas fans to come back in here and congratulate you on a dominant and well earned win.

It just tweaked my nose when after a season sweep, and a dominating win on your home field that it did not seem to be enough for some in this forum that they had to dig in for more and accuse Roy Williams of being a "dirty tackler" in the same game where a Redskin LB laid a late hit after the whistle on Witten and injured him. If you want to accuse me of crying about something, well that is the reason.[/QUOTE]

sandtrapjack man I also came back from the lose and gave them their props for the win and accepted that we we´re manhandle in every way

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[QUOTE=denim_monger]beer belly roy williams is even more overrated than old man joe gibbs, and thats pretty bad
:headbange[/QUOTE]
You again!?!? Being that you are from "arkansas", where ever in the hell that is, dont you have something to go and do with your sister?

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Williams is lucky to have name recognition at this point in his career. All I know is the Redskins, Santana Moss, Mark Brunell and Chris Cooley have all made him look worse than Ohlahete. Williams is overrated and continues to jeopardize peoples careers with a violent and techniqueless 'collar' tackle (if we and the officials ain't gonna call it horse collar). I can only hope the cards fall that we can play Dallas at Fed Ex in a NFC championship game. Cause we'll own 'em again! 3 times in a season!!!! What a joy that'd be huh?

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sand i apoligize.with your age and knowledge you have earned the right to speak,unlike some band wagon jumpers.on the lat hit issue,if the whistle blew(which i dont think it did)it was a late hit,end of conversation.on roy williams,i dont call him dirty,just aggressive(like my own sean taylor)one thing i do call him is over rated,no way he should be in the pro bowl.not watching the cowboys alot ,i went to some of my cowboy friends and ask them if they thought he should go,and ALL of them said he has not had a good year.the one thing that sticks in your crawl is the same that used to be in mine,losing to the hated arch rivals.but,dont worry,theres always next year.go skins

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I can't believe we're still debating this.

Fact is it's game over for the rivalry for this season and it's Skins 2 Crybabies 0.

That's all we need to know.

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[QUOTE=cpayne5]I saw a segment with Mike Pereira (NFL's head of officiating), and he explained the rule.

Two things have to happen for a flag to be thrown.
* the defender gets his hand inside of the pads
* the defender immediately yanks the offensive player down

That tackle on Portis literally happened right in front of me and I was screaming and yelling for a flag to be thrown, but the way the rule reads, it was the correct call, I'm affraid.[/QUOTE]That guy lives a lie. Every week he has to squirm out of admitting a bad call, often by saying that he disagrees with the rule. It is absolutely ridiculous that this is all the scrutiny the referees have to face--a guy who isn't even a ref taking the heat for the bad calls. It seems that every rule in the NFL has a loophole and can be interpreted in a way to make the refs unaccountable. Like "the defender [b]immediately[/b] yanks the offensive player down." So, if he holds on for 2 seconds, then pulls down and breaks a guy's leg, it's okay then? I hate the sorry state of officiating in today's NFL, and can't bring myself to watch that snake try to explain all of the **** ups that cost millions of dollars to owners, players, and gamblers on a weekly basis. Might as well be watching boxing. If the Champ don't get knocked out, the Champ wins the decision.