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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;682453]And Campbell got a bunch of completions from screens and garbage time. More important to look at more detailed stats:

QB Rate - McNabb = 92.9, JC = 86.4
TD% (TDs / Pass Att) - McNabb = 5.0, JC = 3.9
INT % (INT / Pass Att) - McNabb = 2.3, JC = 3.0
Adjusted Net Yds per ATT (complicated) - McNabb = 6.9, JC = 5.6

McNabb - 5 Time Pro Bowler, JC.....[/quote]

for a 1 year loaner with minimally better stats(my opinion only), we gave up the 37th pick and a 4th next year. McNabb is what he is, but what good does he do us when he goes to the Vikings, or whereever. In the end he will be a minor improvement over JC and we will have given up 2 useful picks. But what's done is done. C'est la guerre.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;682462]No doubt Sammy there is no comparison.. JC has never been a Franchise QB. [B]DMcNabb is a future HOF.. [/B](Hopefully SB champion also :) JC deserves another shot in another city. I bet we get a decent pick for him.[/quote]Thinking that they won't limit the voting to just his fan club, but I could be mistaken.

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Mike Shanahan is about as close to a QB developing god as there is in the current NFL. I'm predicting a huge ressurection of McNabb's career. No more Fat Andy and 5000+ passes a game. No more being forced to be a pocket passer all day. Bootlegs are a frequent feature in Shanny's O. McNabb maybe primarily a pocket passer now, but we know what his instincts are. O is from the same coaching tree. No idiot head coach AND D-coordinator revealing their ENTIRE POKER HANDS, if you get the metaphor, to the opponent. A workout regiment that is sure to improve the performance of even the scrubs on the team.
The mean is 8 wins, and the standard deviation is 2 wins, give or take.

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[quote=Mechanix544;682455]Donovan will be the QB this year and for 4 - 6 years to come. NOw lets try to move 'los, JC, Carter and one of our TE's for some picks.[/quote]

So he'll be our QB until he's 38-40 years old? Umm, no.

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Re: McNabb a REDSKIN!
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;682475]for a 1 year loaner with minimally better stats(my opinion only), we gave up the 37th pick and a 4th next year. McNabb is what he is, but what good does he do us when he goes to the Vikings, or whereever. In the end he will be a minor improvement over JC and we will have given up 2 useful picks. But what's done is done. C'est la guerre.[/quote]

1 year loner....... I can't see Allen making this move without Mcnabb assuring at least 3 years in Washington.

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[quote=GTripp0012;682464]McNabb got just as many of his completions from dumpoffs as Campbell did. Fact: McNabb had 15 passes of 20+ yards and Campbell had 14. Calling that an upgrade is stretching: McNabb is simply less accurate.

He just got even more yards from down the field plays, which won't translate for all of the obvious reasons.[/quote]If the stats I quoted, along with McNabb's Pro Bowls and playoff success aren't enough for you to admit he's a huge upgrade over Campbell then there's nothing that will change your mind.

I think you've gone way overboard on supporting JC, but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.

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Friday night of the draft just got boring, barring a trade into the second or third.

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FWIW, here's what [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5055486"]John Clayton[/URL] has to say about the deal...

[QUOTE]Despite being 33 years old, McNabb can add to the Redskins what Brett Favre added to the Minnesota Vikings last season and Steve McNair added to the Baltimore Ravens in a trade in 2006. [B]Franchise quarterbacks add points to the scoreboard.[/B] Favre added 5.7 points per game to the Vikings last season and they advanced from a 10-win team to a 12-win team. McNair added 5.5 points per game to the Ravens in 2006, and they had a 13-3 season.

Former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs thought he drafted a franchise quarterback for Snyder when he took Jason Campbell in the first round of the 2005 draft. Campbell never produced enough points for the Redskins as a starter. Under Campbell, the Redskins never averaged more than 20.9 points a game, not good enough to be atop a division.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=Lotus;682488]Friday night of the draft just got boring, barring a trade into the second or third.[/quote]

The draft came early for me!

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;682381]If you guys dont think this trade is freakin exactly what we needed.....The numbers say it all
2009 Philadelphia Eagles Mc Nabb stats 22 td's- 10 Ints-3,553 yards- 92.3% completions %......Havent seen those numbers in Washington since Doug Williams!![/quote]

I guess your blind then....

JC stats
TD's- 20
INT- 15
YRDS- 3618
Completion %- 86.4%

and JC's OL was worse. So give both QB's the same decent OL and who would do better? Thats the question. I'm not a JC fan but I'm not a McNabb fan either. I think McNabb is better at reading defenses though. Slightly more accurate.

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What's next? Sign Flozell Adams and TO?

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[quote=GMScud;682220]Well, I think losing our 2nd rounder increases the urgency to acquire more picks in this year's draft. Drafting McNabb as a 2 or 3 year band-aid doesn't change our need for a QB of the future, and we still need plenty of help in other areas.

I forsee any combination of the following players traded: Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, Laron Landry, and Chris Cooley.[/quote]


Yes, it is absolutely urgent that we trade that pick at #4 for more picks. I'm hoping for round 1, #13 from 49ers, and a 3rd and 5th rounder.

I understand JC for a 3rd rounder, but what about the rest of that bunch? What are they worth? Would we really get rid of LL and CC?

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;682486]
I think you've gone way overboard on supporting [B]Colt McCoy[/B], but to seriously believe McNabb isn't a huge upgrade.....c'mon. You've got to look at more than just completion %.[/quote]

There fixed it for you. Please continue.

Just found this on Redskins.com:
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I think it's safe to say whenever we do make our first pick in this upcoming draft it's obviously going to be a quarterback or a running back.