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[quote=SkinzWin;891850]2004 all over again big boy.[/quote]

Let's hope it's not 02,03,06 or 07 all over again! Manning bros are only QBs taken in the first 2 picks to win the Super Bowl over the last 12 years.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;891862]That was a very different beast. Draft picks weren't nearly as valued as FA and even with FA in 2004, we definitely missed on quite a few of them. Don't get me wrong, I'd love either RGIII or PM, but I'd be just as happy keeping our picks and continuing to build the franchise with younger, better players. No one is going to confuse Mark Brunell with Peyton Manning.[/quote]

2004 was by far the exception, not the rule.

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[quote=SkinzWin;891869]Who's to say that there will be a top QB available or WORTH taking down the road? Not every draft has multiple, or even one single, franchise viable QB prospect. That is a bigger risk then "rolling the dice" on RG3. You can evaluate RG3's ability to be a franchise QB better than a sophomore or freshman QB in college currently playing.[/quote]

One thing I like to point out about RGIII is his ability to move in the pocket. Part of me thinks that the comparisons to Vick may have been off. Yes they have similar measureables but the playing style is completely different. Heck with the way I've seen Griffin move around the pocket he reminds me more of Rodgers then anyone else.

Personally I'm just facisinated by his pocket presence. The way he moves and eludes the rush while keeping his eyes down field is exactly the type of thing a team that struggles to put lines together needs.

I mean watch how often defenders close in on him and how well he moves to not only get away from them but set up the deep throws.
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Now compare that to Cousins and Weeden.
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Weeden who admitingly does a nice job against the rush but he's able to avoid sacks because of his quick release while going for the shorter quicker routes. RG3 on the other hand is eluding the rush, giving his guys time to get downfield, and then completing 20+ yard passes.

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[quote=GTripp0012;891886]I am not saying you should believe in the Shanahans. I am just saying that some team is going to find that quarterback that isn't Luck, RG3, or Peyton Manning, and it's that move that will put them in the playoff hunt.

I can't look at past history and give you a compelling reason to believe that said team will be the Redskins.[/quote]

[url=http://nflspinzone.com/2012/02/29/you-heard-it-here-first-washington-redskins-can-win-2012-nfc-east-title/]You Heard It Here First: Washington Redskins Can Win 2012 NFC East Title - NFL Spin Zone - A General NFL Blog providing you all the NFL News, Rumors, Updates, and National Football League News.[/url]

^that was just for fun...

But this I found interesting and have heard it more then just here.

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/3/3/2843230/is-ryan-tannehill-a-valid-option-for-the-redskins]Is Ryan Tannehill a Valid Option for the Redskins? - Hogs Haven[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;891911][url=http://nflspinzone.com/2012/02/29/you-heard-it-here-first-washington-redskins-can-win-2012-nfc-east-title/]You Heard It Here First: Washington Redskins Can Win 2012 NFC East Title - NFL Spin Zone - A General NFL Blog providing you all the NFL News, Rumors, Updates, and National Football League News.[/url]

^that was just for fun...

But this I found interesting and have heard it more then just here.

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/3/3/2843230/is-ryan-tannehill-a-valid-option-for-the-redskins]Is Ryan Tannehill a Valid Option for the Redskins? - Hogs Haven[/url][/quote]

Everything I've heard about Tannehill suggest he's either going in the top 10 or the second round. There doesn't seem to be much of a middle ground in terms of projecting where he'll go.

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tannehill is garbage. weeden is the 3rd best qb prospect in this draft

Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10)
 

[QUOTE=los panda;891916]tannehill is garbage. weeden is the 3rd best qb prospect in this draft[/QUOTE]



Don't worry next years class will be better.

Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10)
 

what me worry? i can barely recall watching brad johnson play for us. i'm used to the trash

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;891919]Don't worry next years class will be better.[/quote]

From hear on in I'm putting bounties on big hits against anyone that doesn't support RG3. Double cash if that same person tries to sell you on next years class over this years.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;891923]From hear on in I'm putting bounties on big hits against anyone that doesn't support RG3. Double cash if that same person tries to sell you on next years class over this years.[/quote]

Since it is the offseason, Matty should put bounties on people that start pointless/repetitive threads. :food-smil

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[quote=los panda;891916]tannehill is garbage. weeden is the 3rd best qb prospect in this draft[/quote]

Everyone here will tell you I'm a huge Weeden fan also. I'm just showing there are others who believe that Tannehill might be better in our system then RGIII. Namely because (I think) he played in a pro style of offense in college instead of the spread. Lindy's Sports Draft Mag compares him to Mark Sanchez, probably the closest comparison they could find. I did find it funny they compared Osweiler to Matt Schaub.

Re: QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10)
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;891923]From hear on in I'm putting bounties on big hits against anyone that doesn't support RG3. Double cash if that same person tries to sell you on next years class over this years.[/quote]

Ok, blast me brother. I thought I read somewhere that MS really wanted Barkley whom we could simply continue to fix up the offensive side of the ball then go all in next year with 2 yrs worth of drafts if you all want to.

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[quote=SBXVII;891926]Ok, blast me brother. I thought I read somewhere that MS really wanted Barkley whom we could simply continue to fix up the offensive side of the ball then go all in next year with 2 yrs worth of drafts if you all want to.[/quote]

I still maintain that you are going to have to hit big on an awful lot of picks to even think of equaling the impact of a strong, smart, and mobile QB like RGIII.

I mean think about it. Could we ever have a shot of trading Orakpo, Helu, Royster, Kerrigan, Williams, Landry, Jenkins, Thomas, Rogers, Campbell, and Kelly for Cam Newton?

By the way thats 6 first round picks, 3 second round picks, a fourth, and a sixth round pick. And of those 6 first round picks 3 were top 10 picks.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;891928]I still maintain that you are going to have to hit big on an awful lot of picks to even think of equaling the impact of a strong, smart, and mobile QB like RGIII.

I mean think about it. Could we ever have a shot of trading Orakpo, Helu, Royster, Kerrigan, Williams, Landry, Jenkins, Thomas, Rogers, Campbell, and Kelly for Cam Newton?[/quote]

Nope. No different then how hard it would be to trade them for someone like Brady and he was a 6th round draft pick.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;891928]I still maintain that you are going to have to hit big on an awful lot of picks to even think of equaling the impact of a strong, smart, and mobile QB like RGIII.

I mean think about it. Could we ever have a shot of trading Orakpo, Helu, Royster, Kerrigan, Williams, Landry, Jenkins, Thomas, Rogers, Campbell, and Kelly for Cam Newton?

[B]By the way thats 6 first round picks, 3 second round picks, a fourth, and a sixth round pick. And of those 6 first round picks 3 were top 10 picks.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I like to look at the bright side.... the other 5 picks were not top 10 and they are starting also. Apparently the Skins got really good value for them to be after the top 10 and be starters.

I like to think if the team gets the right player with the most skills they are looking for at whatever position they will work out. RGIII might be the 2nd best QB in this yrs draft but someone like Tannehill might be better suited for what we do simply because his learning curve might be smaller. Yes he might need to work on his skills but if he was in a pro system in college I feel he might learn quicker and be more usefull right out of college. < hopefully I said that right. lol.