Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

I think the sticking point will be how much a potential trading partner is willing to pay Trent on a contract extension, more than what draft capital they are willing to part with. He may get a big dose of reality here in the coming days.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1246075]I think the sticking point will be how much a potential trading partner is willing to pay Trent on a contract extension, more than what draft capital they are willing to part with. He may get a big dose of reality here in the coming days.[/quote]

His number (per year) will probably go down just to get out of town...but it really all about the guarantee at his age.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Im trying to figure out the cap ramifications if TW is not traded and he doesnt report.
Does his 14.5 or just the 2M option or none count against the cap?

Ive read we can fine him 30k per day missed in TC then with hold each weekly pay check as he misses the weeks, one week at a time.

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“Trent is excited to resume his Pro Bowl career with a team interested in a player of his stature,” Williams’ agent, Vincent Taylor, told Ben Standig of TheAthletic.com. “We really appreciate and respect [owner] Dan Snyder for the chance to seek another opportunity.

“This isn’t about a contract, but time for a change of scenery.”
[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/trent-williams-agent-isn-t-235359019.html[/url]

Cool Mr. Agent, its not about the money so now the hurdle of finding a team that will trade assets and give TW a new LTD is off the table!! hell yeah! Im taking your word for it guy.

Now, per his agent, its just about finding a new team willing to give up a 2nd R! That should make getting a 2R much easier if the new team also doesnt have to pay him 4/80/50

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Unlikely but what about a straight swap with the Broncos for Justin Simmons? We need a S and we can then concentrate on OL, LB, WR and CB in FA & the draft.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1246078]Unlikely but what about a straight swap with the Broncos for Justin Simmons? We need a S and we can then concentrate on OL, LB, WR and CB in FA & the draft.[/quote]

He will demand top dollar...I don't want 2 safeties to be wrapped up in the two highest players on defense. We already overpaid a minimum-impact play at SS.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=budw38;1246052]You trade him for whatever you can . A 3rd in 2020 , and a 4th in 2021 . We weren't winning with him , he wasn't playing last year ......... trade his ass and get some picks for him . As soon as that happens , ship Dunbar too , build draft pics now , in 2 or three years , you have a strong core to build around .[/quote]

I don't see the Redskins getting any better than that unless they wait till the season starts. Teams in need will try the draft well before trading a high pick for someone in their 30's that plays 75% of the time and wants top dollar. The team that drafts someone will at least let them go through the pre season before they decide they need someone else. Also I would only expect interest from a contender, so that decreases the options. I think him sitting out the whole season adds to lowering his value.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Here are some options to replace Williams, like I said this is a good draft for OT’s.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-have-options-replace-trent-williams-both-nfl-draft-or-free-agency[/url]

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=SunnySide;1246077]Im trying to figure out the cap ramifications if TW is not traded and he doesnt report.
Does his 14.5 or just the 2M option or none count against the cap?

Ive read we can fine him 30k per day missed in TC then with hold each weekly pay check as he misses the weeks, one week at a time.

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“Trent is excited to resume his Pro Bowl career with a team interested in a player of his stature,” Williams’ agent, Vincent Taylor, told Ben Standig of TheAthletic.com. “We really appreciate and respect [owner] Dan Snyder for the chance to seek another opportunity.

“This isn’t about a contract, but time for a change of scenery.”
[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/trent-williams-agent-isn-t-235359019.html[/url]

Cool Mr. Agent, its not about the money so now the hurdle of finding a team that will trade assets and give TW a new LTD is off the table!! hell yeah! Im taking your word for it guy.

Now, per his agent, its just about finding a new team willing to give up a 2nd R! That should make getting a 2R much easier if the new team also doesnt have to pay him 4/80/50[/quote]

Only the $2M prorated bonus would count against the cap. The remainder would not. But it doesn't matter because Rivera will trade him, it's the sensible move. If you're trying to change a culture you need to have nothing but guys who want to be here.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

This is from BurgundyBlog, and I agree with everything except for the notion that TW is in his prime years.

"I'd probably move Trent for a 2 and bury this. But I'd aim higher. He's very good and still in prime years for the position. #Redskins don't owe him any goodwill, aren't in a hurry, and his punitive new contract is not their problem. Demand a luxury price for your luxury asset."

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=Schneed10;1246089]Only the $2M prorated bonus would count against the cap. The remainder would not. But it doesn't matter because Rivera will trade him, it's the sensible move. If you're trying to change a culture you need to have nothing but guys who want to be here.[/quote]

Thank you, tried reading about it last night and couldnt 100% figure it out. Came away thinking perhaps wed get like weekly cap relief but that didnt seem right.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Trent to the Browns for Denzel Ward. Maybe swap some later round picks to even things out.

Solves our Trent problem and gives us a good, cheap, young CB. Allows us to spend big in FA on Hooper, extending Scherff, resigning Flowers, and perhaps signing a guy like Peters or Penn to start at LT for a year or two while we develop some younger guys.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — It’s no longer Scho-Time in Cleveland.

Browns GM Andrew Berry met with linebacker Joe Schobert’s agent, Joe Panos, in Indianapolis, and the two sides parted with the belief that Schobert will not be back with the Browns because they’re not prepared to pay him the double-digit millions he stands to make on the open market, a league source said.

Schobert, a 2017 Pro Bowler, could attract about $10 million a year, and the Browns aren’t prepared to pay him that much, the source said.

[B]They’re planning to make a big investment in the offensive line, sources say, and they’re saving their pennies for that.[/B] It’s also the reason that defensive end Olivier Vernon, the highest-paid player on the team at $15.25 million, will also likely be gone.
[url]https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/lb-joe-schobert-will-hit-the-free-agent-market-and-will-not-be-back-with-the-browns-source-says.html[/url]

Couple of nuggets. LB Schobert will be on the market and apparantely Olivier Vernon. Im a no for both.

Come on browns .... do it. Make that O line move. Your window is now. Baker, OBJ, Landry, Garrett, Ward ... lets go.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

The best return in terms of draft picks maybe for some in next years draft, GMs are a little more relaxed about trading future picks it seems......

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

Mary Kay Cabot is a well connected reporter in Cleveland. So if she's saying that the Browns may need to part ways with their #10 overall pick for Trent, that's something to pay attention IMO.

Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1246113]Mary Kay Cabot is a well connected reporter in Cleveland. So if she's saying that the Browns may need to part ways with their #10 overall pick for Trent, that's something to pay attention IMO.[/quote]

I say the chance of a pick that high pre draft are slim and none.