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irish 01-12-2022 09:49 AM

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[quote=Stacks42;1307802]I was looking at the uniform pics and it struck me. I think the "Commanders" circle logo that has been throw out there is not a red herring. Look at the picture of the jersey with the[B] Three Stars [/B]on in inner collar where the "Team Effort Tradition" used to be. There is a sewn circle below that. I think thats where the circle icon/alternate logo will go.
[URL="https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1"]https://twitter.com/Scott7news/status/1478411953559195648/photo/1[/URL][/quote]

Dallas fans will have a field day with WFT coopting the star. Why WFT would even go near a star as part of their logo is beyond me.

skinsfaninok 01-12-2022 09:51 AM

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[quote=irish;1307859]Dallas fans will have a field day with WFT coopting the star. Why WFT would even go near a star as part of their logo is beyond me.[/quote]

You kind of have too with a Military themed name

irish 01-12-2022 09:51 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1307854]i am hoping its Washington Warthogs[/quote]

The Washington Warthogs were a professional indoor soccer team back in the 90s.

mredskins 01-12-2022 10:00 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1307860]You kind of have too with a Military themed name[/quote]

I believe it represents the 3 Stars on the DC flag. Which I think is kind of cool.

Stacks42 01-12-2022 11:51 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1307862]I believe it represents the 3 Stars on the DC flag. Which I think is kind of cool.[/quote]

Yes it does, and the three stars and two bars on the D.C. Flag come directly from the George Washington family crest/coat of arms. So Commanders would be a fitting name.

SunnySide 01-12-2022 12:44 PM

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[quote=Stacks42;1307872]Yes it does, and the three stars and two bars on the D.C. Flag come directly from the George Washington family crest/coat of arms. So Commanders would be a fitting name.[/quote]

[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/COA_George_Washington.svg/220px-COA_George_Washington.svg.png[/IMG]

[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/George_Washington%E2%80%99s_bookplate._Sotheby%27s.jpg[/IMG]

^^ yup thats the Washington family crest

FrenchSkin 01-12-2022 08:32 PM

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[quote=irish;1307861]The Washington Warthogs were a professional indoor soccer team back in the 90s.[/quote]

You think they could hurdle this trademark issue if they tried ? ^^

CRedskinsRule 01-12-2022 08:53 PM

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1307892]You think they could hurdle this trademark issue if they tried ? ^^[/QUOTE]Nope, no trademark can ever be overcome.

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REDSKINS4ever 01-13-2022 12:34 AM

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Washington Warpath......has a nice ring to it.....I sort of links back to the Redskins past somewhat.

FrenchSkin 01-13-2022 12:59 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1307893]Nope, no trademark can ever be overcome.

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:laughing- Hope neither the AAF nor the JFK Commanders F up the plan to getting this great federating non offensive name ^^

AnonEmouse 01-13-2022 07:20 AM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1307893]Nope, no trademark can ever be overcome.

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Maybe practically true but not legally correct. i.e. some trademarks (depending on the legal locality they are established) are renewable, they can lapse through lack of use etc. No trademark exists in perpetuity without the owners active involvement, but in this case, it's likely that any dispute we were headed for and avoided, is with a name that's in current trademarked use.

Maybe we could have gone back and found a lapsed one? Ye Olde Warthoges? Ye Scarlet Werwulf?

skinsfaninok 01-13-2022 08:15 AM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1307896]Washington Warpath......has a nice ring to it.....I sort of links back to the Redskins past somewhat.[/quote]

Honestly that is a sick name

FrenchSkin 01-13-2022 08:23 AM

Re: Name Reveal 2.2.22
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1307907]Maybe practically true but not legally correct. i.e. some trademarks (depending on the legal locality they are established) are renewable, they can lapse through lack of use etc. No trademark exists in perpetuity without the owners active involvement, but in this case, it's likely that any dispute we were headed for and avoided, is with a name that's in current trademarked use.

Maybe we could have gone back and found a lapsed one? Ye Olde Warthoges? Ye Scarlet Werwulf?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure CRed was being sarcastic ;-)

Even with existing trademarks, you have to prove potential consumer confusion. In the end it's all about leverage, and how bad do you want to use the name, how much are you ready to pay to avoid going to court, and how much the other camp really wants to go to court...

Already posted it, but good read about how all this works (about Redwolves but what you learn in there applies to any name IMO):

[url]https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/jul/21/wolves-not-just-for-teams-taking/[/url]

AnonEmouse 01-13-2022 09:01 AM

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And this is where I fail to understand the seeming disinterest in the fan favourites. WFT could easily (and maybe will) stick to the W logo or a derivation, and go with Redwolves (one word) for instance. No comparison on logo and little confusion therefore with a name that wasn't even identical. And with Snyders dollars, probably easily winnable if challenged like this case.

I actually suspect they didn't want a contentious name considered on 2 fronts; any legal action would likely draw the process out and be bad publicity (pro sports team picking on a school), and the lesser factor that it would have tipped everyone to the desired name.

But that doesn't mean you have to roll over and go with something tame or unrepresentative. I'll support it whatever it is, but I won't be comfortable with something derivative/lacking in dynamic potential. Commanders is meh, and Admirals would be worse in my mind.

skinsfaninok 01-13-2022 09:58 AM

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FWIW , I spoke to Greg Curl (Kam's dad) and he is hearing its Commanders as well.. Now he can't officially say that but you know Kam knows lol.

Glad it'll be over in a few weeks.


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