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firstdown 12-17-2009 03:45 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
Hey, mlmpetert why not take the balance of that money for the bus signs and save it and if Bruce Allen looks like crap we can just switch the names from "Vinny" To "Allen".

MTK 12-17-2009 03:53 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/cerrato-zorn-relations-frayed.html]Redskins Insider - Cerrato-Zorn relations frayed as season declined[/url]

tryfuhl 12-17-2009 03:54 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
I think that DT summed things up well:

"Nothing really surprises me around here," Thomas said. "It is kind of awkward, definitely, when the guy that brought you in leaves like this. He's a guy who knows what we're capable of, and was real supportive of us playing well, so it's tough to see this. But you know, people have been wishing this for a long time. Maybe it's just like people getting what they wished for. I guess you just really have to wait for the smoke to clear to see what happened and what's really going on around here."

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/cerrato-leaving-as-some-of-his.html]Redskins Insider - Cerrato leaving as some of his choices improve[/url]

Jaws was supportive of it, but also curious about the autonomy.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/bruce-allen-hiring/jaworski-on-allen-i-think-its.html]Redskins Insider - Jaworski on Allen: 'I think it's a good move'[/url]

CRedskinsRule 12-17-2009 03:54 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[quote=tryfuhl;641508]Yeah I can't see him finding enough good in Zorn from a combine talk and a few weeks of the season to make him more comfortable with the Z-Man than other guys that he's known for years.[/quote]

The one thing that gives me pause, is the team is playing better, he is big on "team", if he feels from discussions/interactions/gut feelings, that the team is playing hard for Zorn, I could see him given one more year to finish out his contract. Again the lack of playcalling is a big conditional factor for Zorn staying.

CRedskinsRule 12-17-2009 03:58 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[quote=Mattyk72;641514]And for those that were asking about this:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/bruce-allen-hiring/pollard-alliance-says-redskins.html]Redskins Insider - Pollard Alliance says Redskins complied with Rooney Rule[/url][/quote]

They fulfilled it [B]10 days ago[/B]. This was not a whim or fly by night move!

Gmanc711 12-17-2009 03:58 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
Wheres the "Gotta Have It" option on the poll?

tryfuhl 12-17-2009 03:59 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[quote=Mattyk72;641515]Jaws likes the move:

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/bruce-allen-hiring/jaworski-on-allen-i-think-its.html"]Redskins Insider - Jaworski on Allen: 'I think it's a good move'[/URL][/quote]
Ahhh I was looking for something else before I submitted my post, looks like you got to it first.

This has been added to the story that you linked a bit ago about Allen taking the helm. The station here cut off of the press conf during the questions so I didn't hear this part, not that anything is surprising.

[quote]
Snyder: Bruce has the authority. When Bruce madkes the decision, it's a Redskins decision.

Snyder on Vinny Cerrato and whether he was offered a lesser position in the organization: "The best way to put it is it was time for a change."
Snyder and Allen would not directly address reports about Mike Shanahan being the leading candidate for the head-coaching job; Snyder indicated that a decision about Zorn's future will be made by Allen. Snyder indicated that the Redskins interviewed several candidates for the GM job.
[/quote]

tryfuhl 12-17-2009 04:00 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;641523]The one thing that gives me pause, is the team is playing better, he is big on "team", if he feels from discussions/interactions/gut feelings, that the team is playing hard for Zorn, I could see him given one more year to finish out his contract. Again the lack of playcalling is a big conditional factor for Zorn staying.[/quote]
That would be the one reservation in the matter indeed. However, a team guy or not you have to win, which wasn't happening. Character only takes you so far.

SmootSmack 12-17-2009 04:04 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
President Joe Gibbs, EVP/GM Bruce Allen, Director of Personnel Doug Williams, HC Todd Bowles? Just saying...

SmootSmack 12-17-2009 04:04 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
Don't take me too seriously there

12thMan 12-17-2009 04:07 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[quote=SmootSmack;641531]Don't take me too seriously there[/quote]

We're not:)

vallin21 12-17-2009 04:07 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
I will say that Allen wouldnt've been my first choice for GM, but from what people like Bethard, Jaws, and Marty are saying about him makes me feel a little better. The key is that we give Allen as much time as we gave Vinny (a decade) and then we judge Allen's personel moves but I'm not going to full out say he's the wrong guy because he might be a pretty damn good GM.

Ruhskins 12-17-2009 04:09 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[quote=SmootSmack;641531]Don't take me too seriously there[/quote]

I hope so, b/c I had to look up who Todd Bowles is...LOL.

celts32 12-17-2009 04:11 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;641451]Right now, i see Snyder manipulating the fans into thinking something's changed when, really, nothing has. The dysfunctional front office structure remains the same - only the players have changed. If you didn't get a chance to listen to Mike Wilbon on the Tony Kornheiser show this morning, then you should.

A character in Snatch said, "Don't piss in my bucket and tell me its raining." By all apperanaces, that's exactly whats happening here. Snyder fired one yes-man and hired another. Allen has never been a "real" GM before. He's only been a yes man. If Snyder wanted a real GM, he wouldnt have hired Allen. Snyder has lead a dysfunctional franchise for so long, he doesn't deserve us to suddenly beleive he has changed now. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Time will tell, but i'm remaining skeptical until proven otherwise.[/quote]

How can you say Allen is not a real GM? Allen has respect around the league and has been the GM on 2 different teams. He is not a yes man.

SFREDSKIN 12-17-2009 04:12 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged
 
What is Clark Judge smoking? Or is he a Vinny's butt buddy?

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12673235/cerrato-latest-to-earn-scapegoat-label-under-snyders-skins]Cerrato latest to earn scapegoat label under Snyder's 'Skins - NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/url]


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