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^^ Agreed. I have liked him from practically day 1.

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Reed is crazy talented and the clear #1, staying healthy was always his Achilles heal. When healthy he's clearly head and shoulders above Paul.

I like Paul's chances to stay ahead of VD on the depth chart though.

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VD hasn't done much lately, it's on him to prove he deserves to play.

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Niles is a solid player coming off a season ending injury his career best receiving year he netted 39 catches which is only 1 catch more then Vernon playing on 2 different teams with 4 different QBs. Not to mention that he's instantly the best blocking TE on the roster behind Paulsen.

Whether is through a competition, climbing up the depth chart or being named the #2 TE I fully expect Vernon to become the #2 TE by opening day.

Imo this is move we should be happy about not turning into a Vernon vs Niles.
This move makes the team better.

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^ if Niles is 100% he is easily the 2nd TE. The problem is 100% is highly unlikely. Davis is pushing Paulson for time IMO.

Vernon Davis needs someone to light a fire...hopefully someone can on this staff.

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[quote=30gut;1141542]Niles is a solid player coming off a season ending injury his career best receiving year he netted 39 catches which is only 1 catch more then Vernon playing on 2 different teams with 4 different QBs. Not to mention that he's instantly the best blocking TE on the roster behind Paulsen.

Whether is through a competition, climbing up the depth chart or being named the #2 TE I fully expect Vernon to become the #2 TE by opening day.

Imo this is move we should be happy about not turning into a Vernon vs Niles.
This move makes the team better.[/quote]

You're giving too much credit to a quickly aging player. Definitely agree that depth is a great thing but I don't think VD pushes Niles. Jay loves him. If McC had control over depth chart then maybe, but Jay loves Niles.

I think it's even too much to say that when healthy Reed is the clear number one. Remember Reed was healthy in camp and Paul got the starting gig anyway. Think about that. Gruden was seeing what Reed could do in practice throughout camp, yet he gave Paul the starting job. After the call he made on Cousins over Griffin I think we need to give Jay a little credit. I think the gap between Reed and Paul, when both are healthy, is a lot tighter than we think.

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[quote=Schneed10;1141548]You're giving too much credit to a quickly aging player. Definitely agree that depth is a great thing but I don't think VD pushes Niles. Jay loves him. If McC had control over depth chart then maybe, but Jay loves Niles.

I think it's even too much to say that when healthy Reed is the clear number one. Remember Reed was healthy in camp and Paul got the starting gig anyway. Think about that. Gruden was seeing what Reed could do in practice throughout camp, yet he gave Paul the starting job. After the call he made on Cousins over Griffin I think we need to give Jay a little credit. I think the gap between Reed and Paul, when both are healthy, is a lot tighter than we think.[/quote]

After what we saw from Reed last season, he's gotta be our clear #1 tight end, even with his problems as a blocker. There's just nothing I've seen from Niles Paul that makes me think he has anywhere near the game breaking skill of Jordan Reed. Having said that, having both Niles and Jordan and Jordan healthy on the roster is a nice problem to have...

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i think niles being #1 in TC doesn't amount to much. reed showed up in games. maybe he just looks bad in practice and that's all it meant. we've heard coaches brag about ryan grant for 2 years and have seen absolutely nothing to back it up in games. being right on kirk doesn't make him infallible.

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We'll see. You may well be right. NP was solid, but not spectacular, at TE for a couple years. However, before last year, Reed had flashed but not been consistent or able to stay on the field. NP suffers a season ending injury and Reed took advantage of the opportunity. Reed is the clear No. 1, but NP should be a more than solid No. 2 TE - plus, he's huge on special teams.

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I definitely think some of you guys here have short memories. I think you're vastly underrating his ability to uncover. Reed took great strides forward this past season, but you need to be reminded that Paul is a very nice mix of blocking AND an ability to uncover.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Niles-Paul-2014-Highlights/dca3db2c-d4a3-44da-a1d5-34b283fb4761]Niles Paul 2014 Highlights[/url]

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[quote=Schneed10;1141562]I definitely think some of you guys here have short memories. I think you're vastly underrating his ability to uncover. Reed took great strides forward this past season, but you need to be reminded that Paul is a very nice mix of blocking AND an ability to uncover.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Niles-Paul-2014-Highlights/dca3db2c-d4a3-44da-a1d5-34b283fb4761]Niles Paul 2014 Highlights[/url][/quote]

Still mad he fumbled that Texans play, but I think Paul will be a solid #2, but I think Reed is going to be special, last year he was the best tight end not named Rob Gronkowski

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[quote=That Guy;1141540]VD hasn't done much lately, it's on him to prove he deserves to play.[/quote]

I don't think the Skins want to go balls deep with VD.

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[quote=Chico23231;1141566]I don't think the Skins want to go balls deep with VD.[/quote]

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[quote=MTK;1141539]Reed is crazy talented and the clear #1, staying healthy was always his Achilles heal. When healthy he's clearly head and shoulders above Paul.

I like Paul's chances to stay ahead of VD on the depth chart though.[/quote]

Reed is the best receiving TE we have, but is not a good run blocker. Reed does have a weakness in his game. Paul is a better blocker, is much more physical than Reed. Before his season ending injury Paul was becoming a very good receiver as well. It will interesting to see if Paul can pick up where was before injury. Can Reed stay healthy? History says no. Just saying. VD pick up is insurance but it also addresses the need to improve our run blocking at the TE position. Our run game suffered last year and fixing it is high on the agenda.

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[quote=Schneed10;1141562]I definitely think some of you guys here have short memories. I think you're vastly underrating his ability to uncover. Reed took great strides forward this past season, but you need to be reminded that Paul is a very nice mix of blocking AND an ability to uncover.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Niles-Paul-2014-Highlights/dca3db2c-d4a3-44da-a1d5-34b283fb4761]Niles Paul 2014 Highlights[/url][/quote]

You are exactly right. Niles Paul before his injury was turning into a great double threat TE - receiver and run blocker. We need more complete TE's that can do both.