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EARTHQUAKE2689 12-17-2014 10:30 AM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1100307]I've been kind of busy with other stuff to really ask. But the impression I've gotten is that every effort will be made to trade Griffin[/quote]

I wonder what the QB plan is if that is the case because there is no FA out there worth it.

tommyhawk13 12-17-2014 10:39 AM

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rg3 in my eyes is somewhat a victim , somewhat tho but he doesn't make things easy for himself rg3 is very talented and it sucks when you have a coach who really doesn't believe in you at all. keep it real colt should be bagging my groceries at my local giant !
rg3 much like any successful quarterback needs help his confidence is very shaken the fans fickle as fuck now wanna get rid of him because of the struggles but when you look at the big picture when was he ever put in a situation to succeed at all ? crap ass oline a coach that rather play a back up I mean wtf...and kirk had his chance to shine and he fucking blew it ...the talent is still there for rg3

mooby 12-17-2014 10:57 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1100347]I wonder what the QB plan is if that is the case because there is no FA out there worth it.[/quote]

I don't like this plan. It almost feels like Jay Gruden is trying to get fired. I don't think there are any better options at qb for next year. If I'm Gruden I just try to roll with Griffin for another year and make the best of a bad situation.

Avinash_Tyagi 12-17-2014 11:26 AM

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1100264]I'm pretty sure this is the second offense that griffin is failing in. Check out the 2013 season to see him in the offense that gave him his acclaim in 2012. Oh wait...he was terrible last year. Must have been the line, or the coaches, or an injury, or a scheme, or something that makes it NOT his fault. Or maybe...just maybe, if he isn't running around in a read option, then he isn't that good of a quarterback. Everyone saying to change offense to griffins liking must be talking about a read option...but check how well that's working out since defenses are way more prepared for it since 2012.[/quote]

On Sunday he was doing well when they had him rolling out of the pocket, for some reason they didn't do it much in the second half.

KI Skins Fan 12-17-2014 11:30 AM

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From a skeptical fan's perspective, I see no reason to go out and get a new QB to run Gruden's dink and dunk offense for one year until Gruden is fired. Colt McCoy and his rag arm will do for that. After next season we can say adios to both Jay and Colt.

Rotten1980 12-17-2014 02:47 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1100376]From a skeptical fan's perspective, I see no reason to go out and get a new QB to run Gruden's dink and dunk offense for one year until Gruden is fired. Colt McCoy and his rag arm will do for that. After next season we can say adios to both Jay and Colt.[/quote]

It's worst case scenario, so Redskins park will somehow make it happen.

over the mountain 12-17-2014 03:05 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1100376]From a skeptical fan's perspective, I see no reason to go out and get a new QB to run Gruden's dink and dunk offense for one year until Gruden is fired. Colt McCoy and his rag arm will do for that. After next season we can say adios to both Jay and Colt.[/quote]

i think the "dink n dunk" is a result of gruden trying to adjust to a weak armed or hesitatnt Qb.

i think the closest we have seen of gruden's ideal offense was when Kirk was working a lot of intermediate routes and using the middle of the field.

skinsguy 12-17-2014 03:44 PM

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Dink 'n dunk also happens when your pass protection is shotty.

Avinash_Tyagi 12-17-2014 03:59 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;1100425]i think the "dink n dunk" is a result of gruden trying to adjust to a weak armed or hesitatnt Qb.

i think the closest we have seen of gruden's ideal offense was when Kirk was working a lot of intermediate routes and using the middle of the field.[/quote]

So Gruden's ideal offense is throwing lots of interceptions? ;)

SCRedskinsFan 12-17-2014 04:24 PM

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1100437]So Gruden's ideal offense is throwing lots of interceptions? ;)[/quote]

No, actually it would involve a QB that can actually find a receiver and get the ball to him. God knows, there have been enough open guys out there...

Avinash_Tyagi 12-17-2014 05:12 PM

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I know, I was merely mocking the idea that some people still seem to have of Kirk Cousins being a football god and that all the Redskins problems will be solved if we play him.

over the mountain 12-17-2014 05:13 PM

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1100437]So Gruden's ideal offense is throwing lots of interceptions? ;)[/quote]

its part of the long term strategerie.

throw a lot of picks in '14 and put a lot of bad tape out there.

then .. BOOM! 2015 we do the opposite of everything we are doing now and it will take at least until week 14 for D coordinators to get caught up to us.

think long term my friend.

Avinash_Tyagi 12-17-2014 05:17 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;1100446]its part of the long term strategerie.

throw a lot of picks in '14 and put a lot of bad tape out there.

then .. BOOM! 2015 we do the opposite of everything we are doing now and it will take at least until week 14 for D coordinators to get caught up to us.

think long term my friend.[/quote]

Problem wit that is what would he do for 2016? ;) :cheeky:

over the mountain 12-17-2014 05:17 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1100445]I know, I was merely mocking the idea that some people still seem to have of Kirk Cousins being a football god and that all the Redskins problems will be solved if we play him.[/quote]

only in the world of the internet does someone saying "kirk gives us the best chance to win" actually mean "kirk is a football god".

nothing is absolute or black and white.

circular discussions like this for the next 8 months until TC starts and everyone will peg the skins as potential playoff team.

rinse, wash, repeat.

rocnrik 12-17-2014 05:18 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1100344]Maybe they will be. I just know they're going to try to trade Griffin[/quote]

Hey guys I'm new to this forum..Is smoot really got this inside info??


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