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Meks 12-21-2017 12:22 PM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183843]This conversation just makes me ask is it july yet (the real end of the FT on Cousins discussion forever)[/quote]

This. I pray this thing comes to an end as soon as humanly possible.

skinsfaninok 12-21-2017 03:55 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/21/john-lynch-49ers-focus-in-the-2018-draft-will-be-putting-pieces-around-jimmy-g/]John Lynch: 49ers’ focus in the 2018 draft will be putting pieces around Jimmy G – ProFootballTalk[/url]

So Kirk to SF is officially dead.

SolidSnake84 12-22-2017 06:44 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183858][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/21/john-lynch-49ers-focus-in-the-2018-draft-will-be-putting-pieces-around-jimmy-g/]John Lynch: 49ers’ focus in the 2018 draft will be putting pieces around Jimmy G – ProFootballTalk[/url]

So Kirk to SF is officially dead.[/quote]

Looks like Cousins' market is drying up little by little. First the Rams due to Goff's emergence this year, now SF. Kirk himself can't be 100% thrilled because he is seeing is opportunities go out the window one by one. i still believe someone will make a big push for him, maybe it is Denver....

skinsfaninok 12-22-2017 08:18 AM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1183875]Looks like Cousins' market is drying up little by little. First the Rams due to Goff's emergence this year, now SF. Kirk himself can't be 100% thrilled because he is seeing is opportunities go out the window one by one. i still believe someone will make a big push for him, maybe it is Denver....[/quote]

Denver, AZ, NYJ are the top 3 teams that I believe will make a run if he's available

skinsfan69 12-22-2017 11:35 AM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1183858][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/21/john-lynch-49ers-focus-in-the-2018-draft-will-be-putting-pieces-around-jimmy-g/]John Lynch: 49ers’ focus in the 2018 draft will be putting pieces around Jimmy G – ProFootballTalk[/url]

So Kirk to SF is officially dead.[/quote]

It was dead once they made the trade. Not sure why anyone would think it was still a possibility.

I think you can tell by Cousins comments that he's very open to being here and probably wants to come back.

SouperMeister 12-22-2017 11:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1183890]It was dead once they made the trade. Not sure why anyone would think it was still a possibility.

I think you can tell by Cousins comments that he's very open to being here and probably wants to come back.[/quote]Jacksonville may be dead too, with Bortles playing very well during the Jags' December push for the playoffs. Cooley/Sheehan had an interesting idea on their show - what if the FO offered a 3 year deal, 100% guaranteed, in the $75-$80M range? Might Kirk consider a shorter term than the typical 5 years given to franchise QB's? It would open the door for another big payday when he's 33-34 years old.

Schneed10 12-22-2017 11:57 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1183890]It was dead once they made the trade. Not sure why anyone would think it was still a possibility.

[B]I think you can tell by Cousins comments that he's very open to being here and probably wants to come back.[/B][/quote]

Agree, and I think he has wanted to be here all along. He's just been slow playing his hand to maximize the pot he rakes at the end. Good advice from the agent. Good media manipulation. And he's about to cash.

MTK 12-22-2017 12:39 PM

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[quote=SouperMeister;1183891]Jacksonville may be dead too, with Bortles playing very well during the Jags' December push for the playoffs. Cooley/Sheehan had an interesting idea on their show - what if the FO offered a 3 year deal, 100% guaranteed, in the $75-$80M range? Might Kirk consider a shorter term than the typical 5 years given to franchise QB's? It would open the door for another big payday when he's 33-34 years old.[/quote]

He would be stupid to pass up a 100% guaranteed deal.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2017 01:15 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1183890]It was dead once they made the trade. Not sure why anyone would think it was still a possibility.

I think you can tell by Cousins comments that he's very open to being here and probably wants to come back.[/quote]

Yeah I don't think its ever been KIRK I think its always been BRUCE

CRedskinsRule 12-22-2017 01:27 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183896]Yeah I don't think its ever been KIRK I think its always been BRUCE[/quote]

I don't think that is the case. I think Kirk from the outset has wanted to get to this point, that being his name being on the open market. Short of overpaying by a lot, he was not going to sign anything. And I don't think that is wrong of him. He took the risk that he wouldn't play bad, and that he wouldn't sustain a career ending injury, and he survived that risk. Now he can collect.

Nothing that has ever been said by KC sounded like he was going to sign while the FT was in play. I hope make the Skins make it clear that the FT isn't in play this year and that it is a LTD, or we part ways.

From that I hope that KC agrees on a LTD here.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2017 01:34 PM

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183897]I don't think that is the case. I think Kirk from the outset has wanted to get to this point, that being his name being on the open market. Short of overpaying by a lot, he was not going to sign anything. And I don't think that is wrong of him. He took the risk that he wouldn't play bad, and that he wouldn't sustain a career ending injury, and he survived that risk. Now he can collect.

Nothing that has ever been said by KC sounded like he was going to sign while the FT was in play. I hope make the Skins make it clear that the FT isn't in play this year and that it is a LTD, or we part ways.

From that I hope that KC agrees on a LTD here.[/quote]

Yeah I say LTD or say goodbye, I'm over this tag shit

Schneed10 12-22-2017 02:04 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183898]Yeah I say LTD or say goodbye, I'm over this tag shit[/quote]

Agree, and from a team-planning perspective, the Redskins kind of need it to be that way. They need to lock him into a contract so they can understand how much cap space they'll have over the next three years. It informs their planning with regards to resigning their own players and their planning with regards to signing new free agents on the open market.

At some point you need price certainty so you can form a cohesive plan. Right now they're forced to react to the uncertainty of the one year deal.

I bet if they had Cousins under a LTD last year, Zach Brown would have been signed for longer than a one-year. The price-certainty is worth quite a bit when it comes to forming a plan.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2017 02:45 PM

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I hope they have space to keep ZB also

Schneed10 12-22-2017 02:49 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183902]I hope they have space to keep ZB also[/quote]

That's a guy worth [I]making[/I] space for. We can fit him in, but if it came down to it I could think of several Redskins we'd rather be without than go without Zach Brown. Too damn impactful.

Buffalo Bob 12-22-2017 03:49 PM

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Kirk should agree to give the Redskins a 10% discount if they fire Bruce Allen, get a deep threat wide receiver, and Snyder issues a public apology for the whole RG3 fiasco.


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