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SkinzWin 08-20-2011 04:40 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;825375]Not the same thing really, but whatever[/quote]

I realize its not about media influencing players joining or not joining a team. But I thought it was quasi relevant.


About the long ball, I thought people said he was throwing up dead ducks in camp on the long ball?

SirClintonPortis 08-20-2011 04:43 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
His long ball's problem has been accuracy. Overthrowing his receivers and stuff.

But Matt Schaub only averaged 3 long balls(passes that traveled 20+ yards) a game in Kyle Shanahan's last season with the Texans.

Also, if you stack the box, it's to stop the run, not the pass. The intermediate passes(around 15 yards) will be there.

SkinzWin 08-20-2011 04:45 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;825380]His long ball's problem has been accuracy. Overthrowing his receivers and stuff.

But Matt Schaub only averaged 3 long balls(passes that traveled 20+ yards) a game in Kyle Shanahan's last season with the Texans.

Also, if you stack the box, it's to stop the run, not the pass. The intermediate passes(around 15 yards) will be there.[/quote]

You know what I meant. LOL

Longtimefan 08-20-2011 04:50 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=Mattyk;825187]Not saying it's eat crow time... but for some it's at least time to take a good whiff of what John Beck is cookin'. You know who you are.

LOL[/quote]

It's always neat to check out what people say both before and after. I was just looking at some of the earlier post in this thread (and others) comparing what was being said about Beck before he played 1/2 of a preseason game and what's being said now. Someone said I reserve the right to change my mind.

Well maybe if the mind was not so prematurely made up, a change would not be necessary.

skinsfaninok 08-20-2011 07:38 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8219a2b2/article/beck-shows-command-of-skins-system-browns-mccoy-sharp?module=HP11_content_stream]NFL.com news: Beck shows command of 'Skins system; Browns' McCoy sharp[/url]


» John Beck could be an effective starting quarterback for the Redskins. The fifth-year pro was exceptional directing the first-team offense against the Colts. He showed an excellent command of the system, completing 14 of 17 attempts for 140 yards and leading the Redskins to scores on each of his four possessions. Beck frequently located his second and third reads in his progressions. His pocket awareness, anticipation and accuracy were better than anticipated, and he also flashed enough athleticism to be a credible threat on the perimeter. Granted, the effectiveness of the Redskins' run game -- Tim Hightower and Roy Helu combined for 171 yards on 20 carries -- allowed Beck to work comfortably off play-action fakes inside and outside of the pocket. Given his superb execution and production during his first appearance as the starter, it is easy to see why Mike Shanahan is willing to stake his reputation on the unheralded Beck."

Alvin Walton 08-20-2011 08:31 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
So how many [COLOR="Purple"]SUCK FOR LUCK[/COLOR] boys are changing their minds now?

:laughing-

Hog1 08-20-2011 08:40 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;825400]So how many [COLOR=Purple]SUCK FOR LUCK[/COLOR] boys are changing their minds now?

:laughing-[/quote]

THAT'S dirty pool!
Nice....

skinsfaninok 08-20-2011 08:51 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
Luck thing was so dumb

SirClintonPortis 08-20-2011 09:19 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;825399][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8219a2b2/article/beck-shows-command-of-skins-system-browns-mccoy-sharp?module=HP11_content_stream]NFL.com news: Beck shows command of 'Skins system; Browns' McCoy sharp[/url]


» John Beck could be an effective starting quarterback for the Redskins. The fifth-year pro was exceptional directing the first-team offense against the Colts. He showed an excellent command of the system, completing 14 of 17 attempts for 140 yards and leading the Redskins to scores on each of his four possessions. Beck frequently located his second and third reads in his progressions. His pocket awareness, anticipation and accuracy were better than anticipated, and he also flashed enough athleticism to be a credible threat on the perimeter. Granted, the effectiveness of the Redskins' run game -- Tim Hightower and Roy Helu combined for 171 yards on 20 carries -- allowed Beck to work comfortably off play-action fakes inside and outside of the pocket. Given his superb execution and production during his first appearance as the starter, it is easy to see why Mike Shanahan is willing to stake his reputation on the unheralded Beck."[/quote]

Hmm, this Bucky Brooks guy seems to be a good reporter, unlike that JLC fellow.

SkinzWin 08-20-2011 09:58 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;825407]Luck thing was so dumb[/quote]

Not was. Is. And anyone who says differently is a moRON.

CultBrennan59 08-20-2011 10:46 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
I think that people who are on the 'suck for luck' campaign would counter by telling all the Beck Bandwagoners that it's just one game, against an awful preseason team, for 1 half.

Meks 08-20-2011 11:03 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
Would like to know how he would have done against the Steelers ones.... colts secondary is just .. not good. ... redzone still a concern no matter who the qb is... still I'm no suck for luck rider, and it was, just one half in the pre season against a Indy secondary that is sub par at best.........
I'm gonna keep watching and keep my wait and see attitude ...

natesurfn 08-20-2011 11:17 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
I wouldn't mind the win and trade for Luck alternative. But I assume no one that has the ability to draft Luck will give that up so easily.

Hog1 08-20-2011 11:22 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=Meks;825429]Would like to know how he would have done against the Steelers ones.... colts secondary is just .. not good. ... redzone still a concern no matter who the qb is... still I'm no suck for luck rider, and it was, just one half in the pre season against a Indy secondary that is sub par at best.........
I'm gonna keep watching and keep my wait and see attitude ...[/quote]

You post a very interesting postion shared by many:
Your position is "it's only one half, still plenty of time for you to suck JB"

To many others is "Great half JB, you might be good at this QB stuff yet".
...........I guess you know what camp you are in?

natesurfn 08-20-2011 11:25 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
In this system JB can be good. With a strong run game and a stout D he can win games. Question is can we stay healthy through 16 games with our playmakers


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