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skinsfaninok 02-09-2023 11:55 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
If you really listen to Ron's interview yesterday you can see he isn't 100% sold on SH and none of us are.. He said "He could be our guy" He said that last yr before trading for Wentz...

I don't buy anything he says

Chief X_Phackter 02-09-2023 12:03 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
He's a 5th round QB who has played in a handful of preseason games and started one NFL game. While he looked fine, there's absolutely no reason for Ron to be 100% sold on Howell. Ron saying Howell "could" be the guy is about as factual as you can get.

Redskins247 02-09-2023 12:24 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1337697]I'm with you and MTK on this one.

He doesn't call the plays in KC. He hasn't proven anything really. He hasn't been offered an NFL Head Coaching job because of that (and maybe bad interviews). That offense's success is all Andy. Having learned under him for the last nine years has to count for something though.

He needs to get out of Andy's shadow and prove that he can be successful. Coming here with a defensive Head Coach, a top 10 defense, and all these weapons at his disposal would be a good move in my opinion. However, if I were him, I wouldn't consider it unless RR lays out a meaningful plan for the O-line and QB.[/quote]

Have to wonder too if he's been with Andy for 9 years, why are they not renewing his contract. It's not like the offense is struggling, and while it's mostly Andy's offense, why don't they want EB back??

Chief X_Phackter 02-09-2023 12:34 PM

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If you ask me, I think overwhelmingly it's because they realize he needs to go somewhere else to move his career forward. Yeah, they could bring him back and he can work under Andy inevitably, but it doesn't appear as though that is getting him anywhere.

skinsfaninok 02-09-2023 12:42 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1337715]He's a 5th round QB who has played in a handful of preseason games and started one NFL game. While he looked fine, there's absolutely no reason for Ron to be 100% sold on Howell. Ron saying Howell "could" be the guy is about as factual as you can get.[/quote]

Which is why I think a veteran will be brought in I just hope its not Carr, he will cost too much

MTK 02-09-2023 12:53 PM

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[quote=Redskins247;1337718]Have to wonder too if he's been with Andy for 9 years, why are they not renewing his contract. It's not like the offense is struggling, and while it's mostly Andy's offense, why don't they want EB back??[/quote]

Plenty of legit question marks about EB which makes me really wonder if he's a legit quality candidate or not. If he came here I'd be in wait and see mode on him.

Ruhskins 02-09-2023 04:17 PM

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I don't know if I'm making a good comparison. But I think about Josh McDaniels, being under Bellichick shadows, in a team with a great QB (when Brady was in NE), and how he never got the scrutiny that EB seems to get. Hell, McDaniels had a terrible stint as a coach his first time around, and that didn't stop the Raiders from hiring him.

Drewsky27 02-10-2023 08:41 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
Rons interview on John Keims newest podcast is a must listen. Ron gives even more detail on Sam Howell and good info on the coordinator search.

Chief X_Phackter 02-10-2023 09:52 AM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1337736]I don't know if I'm making a good comparison. But I think about Josh McDaniels, being under Bellichick shadows, in a team with a great QB (when Brady was in NE), and how he never got the scrutiny that EB seems to get. Hell, McDaniels had a terrible stint as a coach his first time around, and that didn't stop the Raiders from hiring him.[/quote]

I think the difference between the two situations is BB wasn't calling the offensive plays, McDaniels was. In KC it appears that AR is calling the plays, and while EB is obviously involved, his specific role isn't all that clear. He's definitely not autonomous, so how much credit does he deserve for the success of that offense?

skinsfaninok 02-10-2023 05:57 PM

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[url]https://twitter.com/fiftygutblog/status/1624165719020560389?s=46&t=AgWsRWW7NC7vO4QJPFwfEw[/url]


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mooby 02-10-2023 07:10 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1337771][url]https://twitter.com/fiftygutblog/status/1624165719020560389?s=46&t=AgWsRWW7NC7vO4QJPFwfEw[/url]


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Ron has to be well aware that with new ownership coming in - if he doesn't build a contender this year it will be his last year here. The seat is very hot.

mooby 02-11-2023 09:12 AM

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I see Josh Harris toured the Commies practice facility the other week - per The Athletic.

Guess he's still in the mix.

NC_Skins 02-11-2023 09:57 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1337771][url]https://twitter.com/fiftygutblog/status/1624165719020560389?s=46&t=AgWsRWW7NC7vO4QJPFwfEw[/url]


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Came here to post this. Ron is done for. He's a lame duck coach just keeping the seat warm for when the new owner takes over.

Chief X_Phackter 02-11-2023 02:59 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1337779]Came here to post this. Ron is done for. He's a lame duck coach just keeping the seat warm for when the new owner takes over.[/quote]

Maybe. I definitely don't see a change before the season starts; and if they are competitive enough, or happen to make the playoffs, or win the Division, RR isn't going anywhere.

Whoever that supposed potential owner was, who knows if he/they will even be the new owner. If so, S Payton's not available anymore. Just sounds like someone simply doing their due diligence, putting out their feelers...if it's true.

Chief X_Phackter 02-11-2023 04:21 PM

Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 
Daron Payne in contract negotiation with Commanders

[url]https://clutchpoints.com/commanders-news-commanders-in-contract-negotiations-with-star-defender[/url]


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