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NC_Skins 12-18-2014 12:00 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1100537]Why don't you think Cooley is worth listening to?[/quote]

Because it doesn't fit his narrative he's been pushing that it's all Gruden and the OL's fault, when the reality of it is that it's his hero's fault. Even Cooley mentions that when fans look at it, they'll just blame the OL, but not the professionals and people that know.





[quote=Rotten1980;1100494]When did Cooley become the guru everybody looks to for analysis? Still waiting to hear explanation what the fuck the "yips" are lol[/quote]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yips]Yips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

You don't even know what he's talking about, yet you're question HIM on breaking down game film? Amazing. I think I'll take a guy's opinion on game film, who was in the league for a good amount of years and that played at a high level over a fan that's start struck by ESPN highlights of his favorite player.

irish 12-18-2014 03:06 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=Mattyk;1100547]Anyone who studies film and has played the game is worth a listen IMO. Cooley isn't all knowing but his analysis seems to be pretty accurate and fair the majority of the time.[/quote]

I agree. Cooley's analysis is good. He calls it like he sees it, the good and the bad is bad. Unfortunately there's more bad now than good. I also think a big reason Cooley's analysis is good is because he's analyzing the team team he played for not so long ago.

diehardskin2982 12-18-2014 05:14 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
I'll post it here, if we keep RG3 how would you react to signing Vick as the Third QB?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/12/18/michael-vick-says-playing-for-redskins-would-be-a-dream-come-true/?tid=pm_sports_pop]Michael Vick says playing for Redskins would be a ‘dream come true’ - The Washington Post[/url]


I think if RG stays its a strong possibility that Cousins will be traded. I know a lot of you would blow a gasket if that happened, but call it a hunch...

MTK 12-18-2014 07:01 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
Vick would be happy to just have a job. He doesn't seem like Gruden's cup of tea.

Lotus 12-18-2014 07:14 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1100579]I'll post it here, if we keep RG3 how would you react to signing Vick as the Third QB?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/12/18/michael-vick-says-playing-for-redskins-would-be-a-dream-come-true/?tid=pm_sports_pop]Michael Vick says playing for Redskins would be a ‘dream come true’ - The Washington Post[/url]


I think if RG stays its a strong possibility that Cousins will be traded. I know a lot of you would blow a gasket if that happened, but call it a hunch...[/quote]

Just my two cents, but I'd be surprised if more than one of our current QB's (and maybe none) are on the opening day roster next year.

SolidSnake84 12-18-2014 07:32 PM

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Vick could probably still start for a handful of teams - but he would only be a stop gap at best....maybe 1 or 2 quality seasons out of him before he settles permanently into that veteran backup role. Although i always imagined Vick coming in somewhere sort of like when Jeff Garcia saved the eagles in 2006...

DYoungJelly 12-18-2014 07:33 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1100562]Because it doesn't fit his narrative he's been pushing that it's all Gruden and the OL's fault, when the reality of it is that it's his hero's fault. Even Cooley mentions that when fans look at it, they'll just blame the OL, but not the professionals and people that know.[/quote]

Admittedly, I've had a really long day. I really don't understand your meaning.

I've heard him call out the play calling, the QB's, the line, the TEs, the RBs, the recievers, the special teams, the defense and the coaching.

The single biggest factor of who he blames for mistakes depends on which play or series he is talking about and who made the mistake.

That standard seems pretty fair to me.

EDIT:

Nevermind. The lightbulb came on. Just got your post. Sorry.

DynamiteRave 12-18-2014 07:35 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1100579]I'll post it here, if we keep RG3 how would you react to signing Vick as the Third QB?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/12/18/michael-vick-says-playing-for-redskins-would-be-a-dream-come-true/?tid=pm_sports_pop]Michael Vick says playing for Redskins would be a ‘dream come true’ - The Washington Post[/url]


I think if RG stays its a strong possibility that Cousins will be traded. I know a lot of you would blow a gasket if that happened, but call it a hunch...[/quote]

In all reality, Vick has been on the down slope of his career since 2011. Let him stay his ass anywhere away from DC. We don't need another "I'm just looking to finish out my career" kinda dude. It's like McNabb all over again.

Hog1 12-18-2014 08:01 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
As we are not 1 or 2 players....."away". We need to build this team(or rebuild). In reality, we are probably 10 starters away from a serious threat. No Vick's.....No Cutlers.
Build.....don't try and patch

SFREDSKIN 12-18-2014 08:09 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=Hog1;1100586]As we are not 1 or 2 players....."away". We need to build this team(or rebuild). In reality, we are probably 10 starters away from a serious threat. No Vick's.....No Cutlers.
Build.....don't try and patch[/quote]

Good coaching, a solid draft and FA signings can make this team a contender.

Hog1 12-18-2014 08:55 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
that too....

mredskins 12-18-2014 09:07 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1100587]Good coaching, a solid draft and FA signings can make this team a contender.[/quote]

And a miracle; don't forget the miracle it is a key ingredient.

Lotus 12-18-2014 09:08 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=Hog1;1100586]As we are not 1 or 2 players....."away". We need to build this team(or rebuild). In reality, we are probably 10 starters away from a serious threat. No Vick's.....No Cutlers.
Build.....don't try and patch[/quote]

Fair enough. But if we say no Vicks and Cutlers, who starts for us day one in September? Famous Jameis?

donofriose 12-18-2014 09:12 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1100587]Good coaching, a solid draft and FA signings can make this team a contender.[/quote]

In three years at best

Ruhskins 12-18-2014 09:22 PM

Re: RG3 and Gruden?
 
[quote=Lotus;1100595]Fair enough. But if we say no Vicks and Cutlers, who starts for us day one in September? Famous Jameis?[/quote]

Vick's a backup at best; Cutler is a turnover prone QB that struggles in poor protection. Why in the world would we want any of these guys as a possible starting option?


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