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[quote=RedskinJake;1119581]Truthfully, I just think you're negative period but I could dig up most of your posts and document your negativity towards Cousins. [/quote]I think you are confusing my unpopular opinion about Griffin with having a overly negative view of Kirk. Not a big deal, you can think whatever you like. But saying that I'm as negative as you can imagine about Kirk just ain't true.

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looking forward to 1 pm, Sunday, September 13th ...... yeehaw!

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[quote=30gut;1119580]I could easily same the same for this entire thread. Your statement about a young QB with a lot of upside applies just as readily to Griffin(actually younger) as it does to Kirk.

But what makes you say I'm as 'negative as you could imagine' about Kirk?[/quote]

To almost everyone else but you, RGIII's upside is mostly imaginary at this point. He has a powerful arm and is a decent runner. However, he is hesitant in the pocket, cannot perform the 3-step drop and throw with any consistency, and has zero pocket instinct. Throw in consistent examples of his inability or refusal to follow coaching instruction over the years, and his off the field drama, and you have a hot mess.

Other than his arm strength and (now reduced) athleticism, where is the upside? Again, I love the guy and was hoping he was THE guy. I bought the Kool-Aid over the summer that he was improving. I [I]wanted[/I] it to be true.

Then I saw him in the first two preseason games. Turns out the new boss was the same as the old boss so it was time for me to pick up my guitar and play.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[quote=30gut;1119587]I think you are confusing my unpopular opinion about Griffin with having a overly negative view of Kirk. Not a big deal, you can think whatever you like. But saying that I'm as negative as you can imagine about Kirk just ain't true.[/quote]

I think people are confusing your abrasive, " i have to be right" attitude as negative.
well...that, and your negative attitude.

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Also from PFT..

[quote] Now that Kirk Cousins has been named the starting quarterback, Shanahan thinks a good season is coming.

“Washington will be much better than people think they will,” Shanahan said. [/quote]

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[quote=over the mountain;1119588]looking forward to 1 pm, Sunday, September 13th ...... yeehaw![/quote]

^this
I'll either be drinking to celebrate, or to forget.

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I feel like this is the whole Jabar Gaffney conversation with Goat all over again. Except this time, it's about RG3.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119601]I feel like this is the whole Jabar Gaffney conversation with Goat all over again. Except this time, it's about RG3.[/quote]

don't you dare sully the name of the legendary jabar gaffney.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1119601]I feel like this is the whole Jabar Gaffney conversation with Goat all over again. Except this time, it's about RG3.[/quote]

Holy Crap ....

It's like déjà vu all over again!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1119584]His point, as I understood it, was that Kap was perceived as having a great 2012, but, since then, he has sucked b/c defenses figured him out and he can't adjust his talents to the traditional offense. Further, that those who say NOW that Kap is a great QB are those who point to his 2012 season (hmm, that sounds familiar).

In other words, Kap apologists seek to ignore three years of less than stellar (an at times very poor) play and point, instead, his success in a style of offense no longer effective as an every down system.

Since 2012, RGIII has been, on his best days, average and injury prone. If you remove 2012 as a never to be repeated fluke, RGIII simply has not shown much of anything despite being given every opportunity to take and run away with the job.[/quote]

Exactly.

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Shanarat wants credit if cousins blows up. One thing we can all agree on is the mastermind/offensive genius or whatever he's called has one of the biggest egos in the world.

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Shanahan has successfully sold the story that he wasn't fired for his w-l record, league worst defense, historically bad special teams nor overall abysnal tenure as GM nor his incessant leaks to the media.

Nope, RGIII got him fired nevermind in 2013 the best unit on the team was the offense.

I tip my cap to Shanahan for relentlessly pushing his no fault narrative. Many people buy in. Hook, line and sinker.
He would be an expert at counter intelligence and deception planning.

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I would suggest few in NFL circles buy the Shanahan "No-Fault" narrative. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that, to anyone outside looking in, there was plenty of blame to spread around. From Shanahan to Griffin to Snyder.

Pretty sure Shanny would be coaching again today if he had successfully sold the no-fault narrative you describe.

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It's STILL not to late to re-start the.................hate fest, right?

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[quote=30gut;1119609]Nope, RGIII got him fired nevermind in 2013 the best unit on the team was the offense.[/quote]

Exactly.

Wouldn't Kyle be the perfect guy to hire next year after Jay and Kirk are fired to resurrect the flat lining Griffin?

Everyone that cites 2012 as the reason to hang onto Griffin surely would surely want to bring Kyle's zone read option wizardry back. We could bring back smaller more mobile offensive lineman that can get to the second level and block in space.

It is, after all, the only system Griffin has won actual NFL games in. He might make it half way through a season before he breaks something again.

If we're chasing success from a few years ago we could cut Griffin and sign Tim Tebow.

He has had better success in the playoffs than Griffin.

Or, we could stick with the proven McLovin plan and build a team with depth across the board and plug in QBs until we hit on one that works.