Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=The Goat;894981]LOL that's the funniest/strangest post I've read in years! Rating a dude on the attractive scale alongside his girlfriend :laughing2[/quote]

Research has found that people tend to pick romantic partners with similar attractiveness levels as their own. ;)

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=GTripp0012;894969]Given what we know now, that was a brutal waste of two years.

Better late than never, I suppose, and Griffin is about as good as pro prospects get at this position. But it's hard to see this as anything but a huge admission of poor planning by the Shanahans who feel it's totally cool to spend draft picks which they are contractually obligated to use to build this team, though they were/are unlikely to actually be around when the picks will actually be made.[/quote]I agree that this move was an admission of fault, but its also very shrewd from a darwinian standpoint.

Completely independent of the on the field play, landing Griffin is one of the few ways this staff increases the chances that they'll be around in 2-3 years.
Drafting a potential 'franchise' QB that the fanbase and city can get behind buys the staff some leeway they may have lost with their previous mistakes.

It affords them the kind of leeway that can look past whatever struggles may/may not occur this season and chalk them up to growing pains of grooming a 'franchise' QB.

I agree that this move was costly though.
It reeks of self inflicted desperation and it highlights the schizophrenic pitfals that occur when your HC is really your GM.
At first blush this draft seems like a complete departure from last year.
But in context of their tenure here its actually in keeping with their m/o and displays their willingness to give up high draft picks.


And at the end of the day although I wish the cost was less, I love Griffin.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;894992]Research has found that people tend to pick romantic partners with similar attractiveness levels as their own. ;)[/quote]

Just goofing around Sir :)

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=30gut;894995]I agree that this move was an admission of fault, but its also very shrewd from a darwinian standpoint.

Completely independent of the on the field play, landing Griffin is one of the few ways this staff increases the chances that they'll be around in 2-3 years.
Drafting a potential 'franchise' QB that the fanbase and city can get behind buys the staff some leeway they may have lost with their previous mistakes.

It affords them the kind of leeway that can look past whatever struggles may/may not occur this season and chalk them up to growing pains of grooming a 'franchise' QB.

I agree that this move was costly though.
It reeks of self inflicted desperation and it highlights the schizophrenic pitfals that occur when your HC is really your GM.
At first blush this draft seems like a complete departure from last year.
But in context of their tenure here its actually in keeping with their m/o and displays their willingness to give up high draft picks.


And at the end of the day although I wish the cost was less, I love Griffin.[/quote]I agree with everything you wrote here, including the bottom line.

This is precisely why we all needed to step back and take a wait and see approach to determine the context of the 2011 draft. Before you can claim that they've committed to a new way of doing things, it makes sense to wait around to see if, you know, they are actually committed to a new way of doing things.

Ultimately, the Shanahans fell lock-step in line with the Vinny Cerrato line of thinking of: I'm going to get fired unless I get a [B]new[/B] quarterback (new, as opposed to better). Only difference was that Vinny poked around some really lackluster prospects and didn't do anything, and Shanahan waited as long as he could then overbet the market by about 30%.

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[quote=skinster;894991]Just in case anyone hasn't brought this up. I woulda prefered Bradford for two firsts two years ago (woulda had 2 more picks from not getting McNabb). Rams woulda done it.[/quote]

I wanted Bradford at the time also but by most accounts the Redskins still tried hard to get Bradford even after the McNabb trade and the Rams wouldn't budge.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

I think these are going to be our picks next year (2013):

2nd
3rd
4th
5th
5th (AH trade)
6th
7th

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

To be completely fair in putting criticism where criticism is due, Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum essentially tried to push a deal where they're locking the Jets into the current plan for the 2013 season as well. Would have been too easy to fire both, get rid of Sanchez, Holmes, etc at the end of this upcoming season if the Jets struggled. Now with Sanchez locked in as Jets starter for at least 32 more games, you almost can't replace Ryan/Tannenbaum after this season (except internally, of course).

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;894944]Trying to decide between Luck and RGIII is like trying to decide whether to sleep with the hot girl or her hot friend. You're winning either way.[/quote]

I'll say this. The Redskins are great at getting the fans excited during the off season.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

please god do not let him turn into heath shuler

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfan69;895003]I'll say this. The Redskins are great at getting the fans excited during the off season.[/quote]

Who was excited last offseason with Rex and Beck as our QB option?

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=redskins forever;895006]please god do not let him turn into heath shuler[/quote]

I said the same thing earlier today! Always thought Shuler would be great, he was quite an athlete.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;895007]Who was excited last offseason with Rex and Beck as our QB option?[/QUOTE]

Lol not me

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[quote=skinsfaninok;895010]Lol not me[/quote]

Exactly.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=Ruhskins;895007]Who was excited last offseason with Rex and Beck as our QB option?[/quote]

Well not those two clowns. I'm talking about Bowen, Cofield, Chester, OJ and Wilson.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=Ruhskins;894926]Here are the Redskins 2012 picks:

1st
3rd
4th
4th (JC trade)
5th
6th (McNabb trade)
7th

That is still a lot of picks.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G.[/quote]

isn't it crazy that 7, the number you are entitled to seems like a lot to us? hopefully we can manage to grab one or two more via trade. after last years draft i am excited about this year, especially with rg3. whats not exciting is thinking about how long we'll have to wait to find out another draft pick. isn't the 3rd round the second night these days? i still don't know what happended shany's first year(2010), but last year was very solid and this year looks pretty amazing. [url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/385178-washington-redskins-2010-draft-analysis-and-grade]Washington Redskins: 2010 Draft Grade | Bleacher Report[/url] they gave it a b+ at the time and the recap afterwards is pretty funny now. all we picked up with that draft was trent williams, carriker, and riley.