Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=redskinsfan1980;1117757]Can we at least give this a chance to play a regular season game before end his career with the Skins?[/quote]

I concur wholeheartedly. One real lousy outing that wasn't entirely his fault(although he does have some blame for it) and everyone is thinking whether we should try and trade him. Gruden knows that Robert isn't going to last this season and is playing nice. I think he anticipates Robert going down. Face it, if Robert gets past week 1 it will be just short of a miracle, but if the line steps it up it might not be so bad. I say relax and just see how it plays out. Why bitch and moan about something that really in all honesty doesn't affect us in the least. Win or lose, unless you are gambling, to quote Bill Murray in Meatballs "It just doesn't matter!!!!!!! It just doesn't matter!!!!!".

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[QUOTE=Brody81;1117764]If they would just cut bait with Griffin and hand the keys to the car to Kirk, we would all see we have our franchise QB. Only good thing about playing Griff all year is we will propably have the #1 pick come next April.[/QUOTE]


I think Kirk is def more capable of running our O at this point and who knows maybe with steady playing time and the backing of the coaching staff/brass/and his teammates he could be our guy for the future, but it is hard to overlook his int's last year. Man some of them were just bad.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=punch it in;1117768]I think Kirk is def more capable of running our O at this point and who knows maybe with steady playing time and the backing of the coaching staff/brass/and his teammates he could be our guy for the future, but it is hard to overlook his int's last year. Man some of them were just bad.[/quote]

The guy is a backup at best. He is not the long term solution. If he was we probably wouldn't be having this debate/discussion. Kirk needs to have a lot of progression himself in order to be a true starter. He is good for 2-3 game spurts, but I don't think he is ready to handle a full season as a starter, as last season showed.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=Flyer97;1117766]I concur wholeheartedly. [B]One real lousy outing [/B]that wasn't entirely his fault(although he does have some blame for it) and everyone is thinking whether we should try and trade him. Gruden knows that Robert isn't going to last this season and is playing nice. I think he anticipates Robert going down. Face it, if Robert gets past week 1 it will be just short of a miracle, but if the line steps it up it might not be so bad. I say relax and just see how it plays out. Why bitch and moan about something that really in all honesty doesn't affect us in the least. Win or lose, unless you are gambling, to quote Bill Murray in Meatballs "It just doesn't matter!!!!!!! It just doesn't matter!!!!!".[/quote]

if it was only one real lousy outing, no one would be doubting him. The problem is all his outings of late have been mediocre at best, and lousy the rest of the time.

We are all fans, we all simply want to see our team win football games. For many or maybe even most fans, at this point seeing Griffin qb'ing this team means seeing our team lose and/or look inept in the process. That's depressing.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1117751]It's already a full blown circus at Redskins park and we're only at pre-season game #3. :doh:


[B] ‏@granthpaulsen

Timeline: In-game Redskins broadcast network says RG3 did not have concussion. HC says he did. One week later, Griffin says he doesn't know.[/B]

[B]
@P_Hazard

If Gruden said he had one to keep him from media, while wrong, Griffin not confirming for company line essentially throws Gruden under bus[/B]


[B]
@MikeJonesWaPo

So, Griffin isn't sure if/when he suffered a concussion. Asked if he thought he should've played fourth series, "I just work here, man."
[/B]


So tired of the drama. At this point, I just want Robert to go away.


Even Joey T. thinks that it's time for Robert to shut up. I especially liked what Cooley had to say....
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/27/joe-theismann-its-time-for-robert-to-be-quiet/[/url]





Bottom line. Robert isn't taking responsibility like he should. I have to imagine the respect level is very low for him in the locker room.[/quote]

LOL dude. You're constantly bitching about everything Griffin says and does off the field. When are you going to figure out that this stuff doesn't matter? Because it doesn't. Simple as that. The media takes everything he says and twists it and puts it in the worst light possible. Players around the league say plenty of stuff that should be considered far worse than what he says, but for obvious reasons Griffin gets a far bigger reaction and more clicks. Repeat after me, this stuff doesn't matter. His teammates and coaches know who he is as a person, they don't give a sh*t how the media portrays him. The football side of Griffin is all you should be concerned about.

Speaking of that, I just watched the Detroit game for the first time and am mystified why everyone is sh*tting on Griffin. He was absolutely not as bad as what everyone said. Taking his full body of preseason work into account, I think he definitely looks better than last year, but of course you can't really tell that until the regular season.

Also, another thing that's been bugging me is why everyone acts like Cousins is so much better than Griffin. Have you all forgot 2012 and 2013? Last year was the first time you could say Cousins had play equal to Griffin's, and half his games were destroyed by interceptions. Cousins looks good at times, and if we end up letting Griffin go I hope we hang onto Cousins, but the negative overreaction to Griffin's game has led to an overreaction of positivity towards Cousins' game.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1117771]if it was only one real lousy outing, no one would be doubting him. The problem is all his outings of late have been mediocre at best, and lousy the rest of the time.



We are all fans, we all simply want to see our team win football games. For many or maybe even most fans, at this point seeing Griffin qb'ing this team means seeing our team lose and/or look inept in the process. That's depressing.[/QUOTE]


For real. Why is this perception out there that we all were kicking back riding the RG-3 train into Superbowl World and than suddenly at halftime of the Detroit game we all turned on him and panicked? What the what? This doubt and fear that we mortgaged our future on Griff has been building for two years!

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

Griffin is gonna be injured first or second game.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1117771]if it was only one real lousy outing, no one would be doubting him. The problem is all his outings of late have been mediocre at best, and lousy the rest of the time.

We are all fans, we all simply want to see our team win football games. For many or maybe even most fans, at this point seeing Griffin qb'ing this team means seeing our team lose and/or look inept in the process. That's depressing.[/quote]

I agree Skins, but I want to see Robert play out preseason before we throw in the towel on the season. If there indeed isn't any improvement with him at all then yeah the season is probably going to be a bummer. It is just sort of sad that we have gotten to this sorry state of affairs as fans. I feel sorry for the season ticket holders, that actually pay top dollar to see this crap in person. Yeah the offense seems more fluid and relaxed with Kirk and Colt in there, but they are not starting material. If Kirk was, he would have been traded last season. Nobody bit on him, especially after he came back down to earth with all of his INTs.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=punch it in;1117774]For real. Why is this perception out there that we all were kicking back riding the RG-3 train into Superbowl World and than suddenly at halftime of the Detroit game we all turned on him and panicked? What the what? This doubt and fear that we mortgaged our future on Griff has been building for two years![/quote]

I agree, but to say the season is lost on less than a half of play is a teeny bit premature. The Ravens game will reveal a lot. IF RGIII doesn't have some sort of rebound this game and next, then I will resort to the doom saying. I am trying to remain upbeat, as I usually was the first to be a doom and gloom guy about the franchise starting with the Shanny/McNabb debacle.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=Brody81;1117764]If they would just cut bait with Griffin and hand the keys to the car to Kirk, we would all see we have our franchise QB. Only good thing about playing Griff all year is we will propably have the #1 pick come next April.[/quote]

I think we need to hold the brakes on calling KC a franchise QB. And I like KC, but he has a long way to go. I like what he's done so far this pre season. He's really running the offense well. But I want to see how he responds after a few bad plays.

I'm getting to the point where the organization needs to move on from the Griffin circus. It's just not worth it anymore. It seems like an on going saga with him and a clean break for both sides might be what's needed.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1117788]I think we need to hold the brakes on calling KC a franchise QB. And I like KC, but he has a long way to go. I like what he's done so far this pre season. He's really running the offense well. But I want to see how he responds after a few bad plays.

[B]I'm getting to the point where the organization needs to move on from the Griffin circus. It's just not worth it anymore. [/B]It seems like an on going saga with him and a clean break for both sides might be what's needed.[/quote]

The only reason it is a circus is they awarded RGIII the starters job in February with out a true training camp competition. The right thing of awarding it in week 3 or 4 of preseason after giving both RGIII and KC a look with starters and determining who is playing better. Instead we are forced a square peg in a round whole and it is obvious to everyone. The lack of a true competition and letting the better player earn the position is creating dysfunctional situation.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=SirLK26;1117772]LOL dude. You're constantly bitching about everything Griffin says and does off the field. When are you going to figure out that this stuff doesn't matter? Because it doesn't. Simple as that. The media takes everything he says and twists it and puts it in the worst light possible. Players around the league say plenty of stuff that should be considered far worse than what he says, but for obvious reasons Griffin gets a far bigger reaction and more clicks. Repeat after me, this stuff doesn't matter. His teammates and coaches know who he is as a person, they don't give a sh*t how the media portrays him. The football side of Griffin is all you should be concerned about.

Speaking of that, I just watched the Detroit game for the first time and am mystified why everyone is sh*tting on Griffin. He was absolutely not as bad as what everyone said. Taking his full body of preseason work into account, I think he definitely looks better than last year, but of course you can't really tell that until the regular season.

Also, another thing that's been bugging me is why everyone acts like Cousins is so much better than Griffin. [B][I][U]Have you all forgot 2012 and 2013?[/U][/I][/B] Last year was the first time you could say Cousins had play equal to Griffin's, and half his games were destroyed by interceptions. Cousins looks good at times, and if we end up letting Griffin go I hope we hang onto Cousins, but the negative overreaction to Griffin's game has led to an overreaction of positivity towards Cousins' game.[/quote]

To all the posters that keep reminding us of Kirk's play last yr must have forgotten what RG3' play was.This was posted a couple days ago

"You can argue that the preseason is too small a sample size to draw any conclusions, and that Griffin is playing against better defensive players than Cousins and McCoy are. But Griffin’s sub-par performance goes beyond just this year’s preseason. Last year Griffin started seven games, Cousins started five and McCoy started four. Washington wasn’t a particularly good team no matter who was starting, but according to ESPN’s QBR system, which combines both statistics and film study into one number on a 0-100 scale, Griffin was easily the worst of the three. McCoy had a 46.9 QBR, Cousins had a 46.5 QBR and Griffin had a 33.5 QBR. The Football Outsiders DVOA system, which uses play-by-play data to assess quarterbacks, similarly had Griffin as by far the worst of Washington’s three quarterbacks."

So Griff was by far the worst,so please please quit bringing up how bad Kirk played,the guys had 8 or 9 starts.We're not saying{or at least most of us}is gonna be a franchise qb,but he hasnt been given much of a chance yet and he's better than Griff.
As far as the last game,it's not an over reaction,its a 2yr cumulation of the same old shit

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[quote=Defensewins;1117797]The only reason it is a circus is they awarded RGIII the starters job in February with out a true training camp competition. The right thing of awarding it in week 3 or 4 of preseason after giving both RGIII and KC a look with starters and determining who is playing better. Instead we are forced a square peg in a round whole and it is obvious to everyone. The lack of a true competition and letting the better player earn the position is creating dysfunctional situation.[/quote]
I totally agree with you. As far as I'm concern Robert nor Kirk has done anything to solidify themselves as the starter. That is why it should have been an open competion. The offense runs smoother with Kirk. If we want a true culture change we need to start putting the team needs in front of one player. And giving Robert the starting job with any completion isn't putting the team and the organization first.

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

I just saw this quote: "According to Jason Reid of ESPN, Griffin sidestepping his own responsibility for making the line look worse than it played is exactly the kind of thing that causes him problems in the locker room. Reid wrote on Twitter after Griffin’s press conference that coaches say “several” offensive linemen dislike Griffin."

Three reactions. One, if accurate, it is deeply troubling and undermines what hope I have of RGIII getting things back on track. I hope it isn't true. Two, if coaches are sharing that with the media, they should be fired. You can't do that as it makes for a toxic environment. Three, it shows how insane the media has been - anonymous sources with incendiary quotes. Honestly, when I see crap like that, I wonder how anyone operating under that kind of scrutiny can be expected to be successful. Oh, and I am reminded that anonymity is the height of cowardice.

I hope RGIII shines and then tells Reid to F off.


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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 

[QUOTE=calia;1117809]I just saw this quote: "According to Jason Reid of ESPN, Griffin sidestepping his own responsibility for making the line look worse than it played is exactly the kind of thing that causes him problems in the locker room. Reid wrote on Twitter after Griffin’s press conference that coaches say “several” offensive linemen dislike Griffin."

Three reactions. One, if accurate, it is deeply troubling and undermines what hope I have of RGIII getting things back on track. I hope it isn't true. Two, if coaches are sharing that with the media, they should be fired. You can't do that as it makes for a toxic environment. Three, it shows how insane the media has been - anonymous sources with incendiary quotes. Honestly, when I see crap like that, I wonder how anyone operating under that kind of scrutiny can be expected to be successful. Oh, and I am reminded that anonymity is the height of cowardice.

I hope RGIII shines and then tells Reid to F off.


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I hate to say, but looking at some of their GIF videos, it does look like the Redskins Offensive Line, either doesn't like RG3 or they just don't care.

[URL]http://www.brobible.com/sports/article/redskins-offensive-line-hate-rg3/[/URL]