Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

I love the fact that we are moving up to draft a QB. But DAMN! that's a lot to give up for an untested talent.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[QUOTE=Hail to the Redskins;895048]Ok, now onto more important stuff..



If I am creating RGIII on my Madden game... what do you think his attributes are going to be? Vick speed? Newton arm strength?



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Speed: 91
Arm Strength: 92
Short Accuracy: 80
Mid Accuracy: 82
Deep Accuracy: 85
Awareness: 61
Acceleration: 95
Overall: 78 at most

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=GTripp0012;894997]I agree with everything you wrote here, including the bottom line.

This is precisely why we all needed to step back and take a wait and see approach to determine the context of the 2011 draft. Before you can claim that they've committed to a new way of doing things, it makes sense to wait around to see if, you know, they are actually committed to a new way of doing things.

[B]Ultimately, the Shanahans fell lock-step in line with the Vinny Cerrato line of thinking of: I'm going to get fired unless I get a [B]new[/B] quarterback (new, as opposed to better). Only difference was that Vinny poked around some really lackluster prospects and didn't do anything, and Shanahan waited as long as he could then overbet the market by about 30%[/B][B].[/B][/quote]

I strongly disagree with your assumption that Vinny Cerrato and Mike Shanahan had similar self-serving motivations to make acquisitions.

First of all, you have no idea of what may have motivated either one of these men to do a deal.

Secondly, the very thought that MS just wanted a new QB and not necessarily a better QB in order to save his own job is preposterous. A QB that is new and not necessarily better won't save his job.

The evidence that this was a football decision is that RGIII, who is a highly regarded prospect, has the ability to throw on the run and possesses extraordinary deep passing accuracy, which makes him a near perfect fit for the offense that MS wants to run.

You could have taken Shanahan's decision not to draft a QB last year at face value based on what he said about it, i.e, he didn't like any of them enough to draft one of them. Instead, you have decided to view the price Shanahan paid for RGIII as evidence that Shanahan stupidly painted himself into a corner by not drafting a QB last year, just as Vinny might have done. Is that right?

Perhaps Shanahan was just waiting for the right QB to become available and now he has acquired the draft position to get that QB. We need one, don't we?

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/10/cosell-expects-rg3-to-be-excellent-fit-for-redskins-offense/]Cosell expects RG3 to be “excellent fit” for Redskins offense | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGoLQjAr9E&feature=related]Baylor Football: RG3 Brings Heisman Home to Baylor - YouTube[/url]

very humble and a team player.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Another good article pointing out what Luck will have in Indy and how different that is from what RG3 will (possibly) have in DC.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/17708885/robert-griffin-iii-will-be-better-than-andrew-luck-in-2012]Eye On Football - CBSSports.com Robert Griffin III will be better than Andrew Luck ... in 2012[/url]

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Suppose the unthinkable happens and Indy takes RG3 instead? Talk about the world turning upside down on that day.

[QUOTE=12thMan;895071]Suppose the unthinkable happens and Indy takes RG3 instead? Talk about the world turning upside down on that day.[/QUOTE]

I'll be just as happy

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=12thMan;895071]Suppose the unthinkable happens and Indy takes RG3 instead? Talk about the world turning upside down on that day.[/quote]

These guys are 1 and 1a. Both teams win either way.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=12thMan;895071]Suppose the unthinkable happens and Indy takes RG3 instead? Talk about the world turning upside down on that day.[/quote]

I think it is a possibility....although not very likely.

I wouldn't necessarily be upset about it, but at this point I think I prefer RG3.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=12thMan;895071]Suppose the unthinkable happens and Indy takes RG3 instead? [B]Talk about the world turning upside down on that day.[/B][/quote]

For RG3.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=Mattyk;895074]These guys are 1 and 1a. Both teams win either way.[/quote]

But RG3's style fits our system better me thinks.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=12thMan;895071]Suppose the unthinkable happens and Indy takes RG3 instead? Talk about the world turning upside down on that day.[/quote]

That would be awesome, then we can justify the # of picks given away. Luck is still the better QB of the 2, he might not be the athlete RGIII is, but he is a powerful, no nonsense tough guy and just as smart.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;894800]True but most didn't possibly mortgage the future.[/QUOTE

The Giants gave up alot for Eli, that worked out pretty well. Hey, we gotta see how RGIII turns out. If he's a true franchise, Pro Bowl QB, then it was worth it.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Wow,
I just noticed your signature "santa is a felon"
Awesome!