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[quote=HailGreen28;1102216]So both DJax and Garcon are extremely POed about lack of a good QB here?[/quote]

Griffin targeted one pass against the Dallas defense more than 10 yards.

Wouldn't you be?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1102228]Griffin targeted one pass against the Dallas defense more than 10 yards.

Wouldn't you be?[/quote]

Well DJax did get over 1000 yards. That's a damn good season no matter how you slice it.

Garcon I get though, there were times I'd forget he was even out there... He had 105 targets this season, which averages out to about 6 per game (even though I think that's a generous number). Way down from his 11 per game average last season.

DJax... Only had 94. TOTAL. And still put up over 1000+ yards.

Looking at other NFC East duos

Maclin - 143 targets
Matthews - 105

ODB - 132
Randal - 127

Dez - 138
Witten (highest targets besides Dez) - 90


Looking at the targets, you'd think Garcon was the #1 but put up nowhere near the same amount of yards as say.. Jordan Matthews... Garcon (752 yards 3 TDs) Matthews (872 yards 8 TDs).

So long story short... Yeah... Kinda feeling for ol Pierre.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1102229]Well DJax did get over 1000 yards. That's a damn good season no matter how you slice it.

Garcon I get though, there were times I'd forget he was even out there... He had 105 targets this season, which averages out to about 6 per game (even though I think that's a generous number). Way down from his 11 per game average last season.

DJax... Only had 94. TOTAL. And still put up over 1000+ yards.

Looking at other NFC East duos

Maclin - 143 targets
Matthews - 105

ODB - 132
Randal - 127

Dez - 138
Witten (highest targets besides Dez) - 90


Looking at the targets, you'd think Garcon was the #1 but put up nowhere near the same amount of yards as say.. Jordan Matthews... Garcon (752 yards 3 TDs) Matthews (872 yards 8 TDs).

So long story short... Yeah... Kinda feeling for ol Pierre.[/quote]

I really like Garcon. He doesn't take plays off. He puts 100% effort into pass plays and run plays. Blocks like a boss.

I hope we can keep him, but the reality of the cap and his contract will hit hard this off season I'm afraid.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1102265]I really like Garcon. He doesn't take plays off. He puts 100% effort into pass plays and run plays. Blocks like a boss.

I hope we can keep him, but the reality of the cap and his contract will hit hard this off season I'm afraid.[/quote]

And how exactly would that be hard to keep Garcon??

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[quote=DYoungJelly;1102265]I really like Garcon. He doesn't take plays off. He puts 100% effort into pass plays and run plays. Blocks like a boss.

I hope we can keep him, but the reality of the cap and his contract will hit hard this off season I'm afraid.[/quote]Sounds like he and DJax should run from this franchise, the first chance they get. :(

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1102269]And how exactly would that be hard to keep Garcon??[/quote]

His base salary next year is 7.1 mil with a cap hit of 9.7 mil. We are going into the off season with considerably less cap room than we expected and compared to most other teams.

There are so many other units that need significant upgrades.

As alluded to by other posters, he might not want to come back given the uncertainty of the QB situation.

I hope he stays. I'm a huge fan. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't a Redskin next year but not surprised.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1102315]His base salary next year is 7.1 mil with a cap hit of 9.7 mil. We are going into the off season with considerably less cap room than we expected and compared to most other teams.



There are so many other units that need significant upgrades.



As alluded to by other posters, he might not want to come back given the uncertainty of the QB situation.



I hope he stays. I'm a huge fan. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't a Redskin next year but not surprised.[/QUOTE]


They'll just restructure him if they need space. He doesn't have a choice in coming back or not.

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[quote=Mattyk;1102320]They'll just restructure him if they need space. He doesn't have a choice in coming back or not.[/quote]

Sometimes ignorance isn't bliss. Sometimes it's worrisome. Everything is good now.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1102322]Sometimes ignorance isn't bliss. Sometimes it's worrisome. Everything is good now.[/QUOTE]


Say what?

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[quote=Mattyk;1102323]Say what?[/quote]

He said something about Bisquick, or something like that.

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[quote=DYoungJelly;1102315]His base salary next year is 7.1 mil with a cap hit of 9.7 mil. We are going into the off season with considerably less cap room than we expected and compared to most other teams.

There are so many other units that need significant upgrades.

As alluded to by other posters, he might not want to come back given the uncertainty of the QB situation.

I hope he stays. I'm a huge fan. I would be very disappointed if he wasn't a Redskin next year but not surprised.[/quote]

schneed has us conservatively at 27-28 mil with expected cuts (bowen, porter, chester etc) while taking into account raises (kerrigan).

total cap at 140 mil but may be increased.

hopefully we have room to add a few starters then a bunch of JAGs.


some of the new posters may not have ventured to the Cap and Draft forums above this one.

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Cap room shouldn't be an issue.

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[quote=Mattyk;1102323]Say what?[/quote]

Was basically saying I didn't know whether or not Garcon would be back next year. I'm happy to be educated.

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1102355]Was basically saying I didn't know whether or not Garcon would be back next year. I'm happy to be educated.[/QUOTE]


He's under contract. I doubt he wants to give up $9M to pout his way outta here.

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 

[B]@JsteelznSkins

@rwj64 Gruden changes everything bro. All he has to do is snowball Dan. Can he? I dunno[/B]


[B]@JsteelznSkins

@rwj64 all on Dans lap . Gruden won't fire. Dan will have to do it. Work tog before so he gonna bang the table. Will Dan do the right thing?[/B]




If Jay is actually trying to make it so Haslett stays, I'll be ready to cancel the 2015 season off the list.


Right now, if this shit is true, I'm 100% on the FIRE FUCKING JAY GRUDEN train. Eat the 16 million and send that moron packing.