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CRedskinsRule 04-22-2016 11:41 AM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=Chico23231;1142124]Unbelievable folks still calling this a "Snyder" move. Get the f*ck out with that thinking...[/quote]

Snyder moves have been going on for 15 years. For us to know without a doubt that RG3's release ended of that era will take more than 1 off-season under new management.

For the record, I have long been saying Snyder was learning and moving in the right direction, and I am a big supporter of him owning the team, but that doesn't mean I think he has completely transitioned to owner in the booth. I will believe that when a coveted player is in our grasp, and we go a different way because the cost is too high. We have definitely moved away from Vinnie era FA and that's great.

skinsfan69 04-22-2016 11:43 AM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=Schneed10;1142117]Janoris Jenkins, Byron Maxwell, they are good corners but they are not game changers.

Norman was FIRST TEAM ALL PRO.[/quote]

Not so sure I'm ready to call him a "game changer" if he's really only had one outstanding year.

skinsfan69 04-22-2016 11:47 AM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1142118[B]]If we get him, just hope Norman performs better than Clements did. I kind of remember him being the top corner at one point and he went there and just did OK.[/B]

I LIKE that he does fit what we do, but I worry about the dynamic in the locker room when you're giving someone a giant contract. I guess we've earned enough goodwill extending our own that people wouldn't think "same ol' Skins" again.[/quote]

This is really my main concern. It sounds great on the outside. We get a top corner and all. But how will he adjust to the new settings? New defense? New players around him? This to me is the number one reason free agency doesn't work. You rarely get that peak performance of the players previous team.

hutch17 04-22-2016 12:48 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
Everyone on the radio and reading around here is worried that this will tie up too much money to pay our free agents next year (Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Gallette, Baker etc.) don't forget the cap will go up and we are going to lose probably Desean and Pierre, that is 20mm right there along with what we free up this year with cuts, there is plenty of money to go around.

Schneed10 04-22-2016 12:58 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=hutch17;1142133]Everyone on the radio and reading around here is worried that this will tie up too much money to pay our free agents next year (Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Gallette, Baker etc.) don't forget the cap will go up and we are going to lose probably Desean and Pierre, that is 20mm right there along with what we free up this year with cuts, there is plenty of money to go around.[/quote]

This is the single thing that drives me the most nuts. So many folks say what about the cap??! Can we pay everybody?? We shouldn't do this, I'm worried.

If you can't do the math then shut up and find somebody who can. When you work it out it's doable. I'm going to post something showing this when I can get a few free moments.

Schneed10 04-22-2016 01:00 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
And the reality is, one or two of our free agents next year are likely to disappoint us this year. Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Galette, Baker, somebody is not going to live up to being worthy of a new deal. If they all do, then we would have made a deep playoff run. But just law of averages, chances are one of those guys will walk because Scot won't like what he sees.

(please don't let it be cousins!

Chico23231 04-22-2016 01:14 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=hutch17;1142133]Everyone on the radio and reading around here is worried that this will tie up too much money to pay our free agents next year (Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Gallette, Baker etc.) don't forget the cap will go up and we are going to lose probably Desean and Pierre, that is 20mm right there along with what we free up this year with cuts, there is plenty of money to go around.[/quote]

that's complete BS...typical DC media. We have never had a problem with the salary cap even when Vinny was doing his dumb shit. Folks chill

CRedskinsRule 04-22-2016 01:26 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
My worries have nothing to do with the cap, but with an infatuated value for an above average player. We have survived the 36B cap hit fiasco, and were barely limited by it, and mainly in the second year. BA, and the contracts staff, know how to put together well managed contracts.

But, Josh Norman is not Revis or Sherman, he has flaws (they do too obviously), and we don't know how he will react once he gets a big contract. If we do it, I will be excited, but a nagging voice will say he ain't gonna live up to it.

Hopefully one day that voice will go away.

hutch17 04-22-2016 01:27 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=Schneed10;1142135]And the reality is, one or two of our free agents next year are likely to disappoint us this year. Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Galette, Baker, somebody is not going to live up to being worthy of a new deal. If they all do, then we would have made a deep playoff run. But just law of averages, chances are one of those guys will walk because Scot won't like what he sees.

(please don't let it be cousins![/quote]

As long as Reed and Cousins work out, then I don't care about the rest.

hutch17 04-22-2016 01:30 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1142137]My worries have nothing to do with the cap, but with an infatuated value for an above average player. We have survived the 36B cap hit fiasco, and were barely limited by it, and mainly in the second year. BA, and the contracts staff, know how to put together well managed contracts.

But, Josh Norman is not Revis or Sherman, he has flaws (they do too obviously), and we don't know how he will react once he gets a big contract. If we do it, I will be excited, but a nagging voice will say he ain't gonna live up to it.

Hopefully one day that voice will go away.[/quote]

I think he is better than Sherman who I think is the most overrated player in the game right now. He is truly the porduct of the system and exceptional safeties and Dline.

CRedskinsRule 04-22-2016 01:32 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=hutch17;1142139]I think he is better than Sherman who I think is the most overrated player in the game right now. He is truly the porduct of the system and exceptional safeties and Dline.[/quote]

We may say the same thing about Norman after he is away from Carolina. One thing though that I guess I will believe is that SM knows defense, and how to build it.

SFREDSKIN 04-22-2016 01:56 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
Josh Norman just arrived at Redskins Park in Ashburn ... Video soon to come @CSNMA #RedskinsTalk

Alvin Walton 04-22-2016 02:21 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
Jags preparing to pounce?

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/56070/Jags-have--continuing-interest--in-CB-Josh-Norman/Default.aspx]Jags have "continuing interest" in CB Josh Norman[/url]

Alvin Walton 04-22-2016 02:26 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
Norman is signed?

[url]https://twitter.com/RapShect[/url]

Now I'm told thats a fake account.
:doh:

Irrefutable 04-22-2016 02:38 PM

Re: Redskins Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1142144]Norman is signed?

[url]https://twitter.com/RapShect[/url][/quote]

so he agreed [B]before[/B] he arrived at Redskin Park ?


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