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[quote=dmek25;227574]those teams dont have a hall of famer coaching them. always keep that in your mind. i think a team like Philly took a superior quarterback in mcnabb, and put role players around him. other than Westbrook, their so called skill players suck. the key to any successful team is line play[/quote]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Andy Reid will be in the HOF ... and philly has more than just d mac and westy (on defense at least).

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;227598]I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Andy Reid will be in the HOF ... and philly has more than just d mac and westy (on defense at least).[/quote]

Philly has owned the East, not because they are any good, but because everybody else in the East sucked. First time any other team had any success (last year), Philly took their rightful place (sewer). And...........Dallas, NY, and the Skins are under-achieveing again this year, and look who's excelling again. It's not a matter that they are good. Sadly, they have not had much competition.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;227555]ARGH. Guys, it's NOT 2000 ANYMORE. How many times do we have to say that?!?!?!?!?!?!? :doh:

I only use this quote when it's really appropriate, but it feels like I'm taking crazy pills.[/QUOTE]

We still continue to sign overage free agents way past their prime. Andre Carter is like 76, Marcus Washington is actually 53 years old, Randle El 45, Lloyd a young 35, and Portis is I think 100 years old.

I'm ODing on crazy pills TMC

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[QUOTE=dmek25;227574]those teams dont have a hall of famer coaching them. always keep that in your mind. i think a team like Philly took a superior quarterback in mcnabb, and put role players around him. other than Westbrook, their so called skill players suck. the key to any successful team is line play[/QUOTE]


Plus, keep in mind many in Philly did not consider McNabb a superior QB, as a matter of fact they didn't want the team to draft him, they wanted Ricky Williams instead. They took McNabb, drveloped him, and he has paid dividens for them, and again he was their player. We took Jason Campbell, and instead of developing him the way most teams would have, he's still at square one mainly because of our overwhelming desire to "win now". I could live with a loosing season if it meant we were attempting to develop a QB of the future. The QB is the heart and soul of every team from an offensive standpoint, it would serve us well to start thinking in that direction starting now.

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[quote=TAFKAS;227602]We still continue to sign overage free agents way past their prime. Andre Carter is like 76, Marcus Washington is actually 53 years old, Randle El 45, Lloyd a young 35, and Portis is I think 100 years old.

I'm ODing on crazy pills TMC[/quote]

Damn, I KNEW I was paying for those bastards social security. Seriously, I want to start taking bets on how long it'll be before media/fans/etc. realize that we're not overpaying for over-the-hill players.

We're just overpaying for young, over-HYPED players! :biggthump

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;227598]I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Andy Reid will be in the HOF ... and philly has more than just d mac and westy (on defense at least).[/quote]
Don't forget L.J. Smith at TE, he's pretty darn good. That said, let me preface this by saying I hate Philly, but as I stated in my earlier post, I LOVE the way they built their team. I'd venture to guess that 75% of their starters came through the draft. They've taken a page from Gibbs/Beathard philosophy and built significant depth on both the offensive and defensive lines. Their D secondary is tremendous (all 4 coming via the draft). Their only units that don't scare me are the linebackers and the wide receivers, although the receivers looked pretty good against Dallas.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;227600]Philly has owned the East, not because they are any good, but because everybody else in the East sucked. First time any other team had any success (last year), Philly took their rightful place (sewer). And...........Dallas, NY, and the Skins are under-achieveing again this year, and look who's excelling again. It's not a matter that they are good. Sadly, they have not had much competition.[/QUOTE]


The only reason Philly took a dive last year was because McNabb was injured along with a couple other of their better players, plus the TO debacle. The Eagles and Giants have been the better teams in the NFC east the last few years. Some of the so called experts had the Cowboys winning the division this year. The Redskins didn't even recieve honorable mention.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;227598]I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Andy Reid will be in the HOF ... and philly has more than just d mac and westy (on defense at least).[/quote]

You know who Andy Reid is? He's the Danny White of NFL coaches. The HOF is for coaches who win Championships and George Allen. No room for Holmgren look-alikes. Besides, everyone agrees that Donovan is The Greatest so it must have been Reid's lousy coaching that caused them to lose the Big Game EVERY TIME. If Reid is an HOFer, then the blame would lie with Donovan and that would rip the very fabric of space-time. John Madden's head would explode.

I think The T.J. Duckett Conspiracy was the band at my High School Prom.

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Lets trade moss, portis, and Sean Taylor and pick up some draft picks, Euthinize Brunell, put in Campbell, and plan for the future.... I say try and get as many as three first rounders and a couple of second rounders, then we've got like five new starters to develope into a team around Campbell, and maybe a Heath Schuler to back him up....or maybe we could remeber that the team has taken some kids from late rounds and made them into good football players...Golston for example....its still too early to tell but he looks good and he was a 6th round pick....Im gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they know what they're doing...... for now

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[quote=70Chip;227612]You know who Andy Reid is? He's the Danny White of NFL coaches. The HOF is for coaches who win Championships and George Allen. No room for Holmgren look-alikes. Besides, everyone agrees that Donovan is The Greatest so it must have been Reid's lousy coaching that caused them to lose the Big Game EVERY TIME. If Reid is an HOFer, then the blame would lie with Donovan and that would rip the very fabric of space-time. John Madden's head would explode.

I think The T.J. Duckett Conspiracy was the band at my High School Prom.[/quote]

Reid has done a lot for the eagles, but you seem to discount all of it because he has never won a SB ... huh? oh, and he still has time left in his career to do it ... it might happen this year--who knows?

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;227641]Reid has done a lot for the eagles, but you seem to discount all of it because he has never won a SB ... huh? oh, and he still has time left in his career to do it ... it might happen this year--who knows?[/quote]

It might. I'm not holding my breath.

Are you sure your avatar isn't supposed to be an Eagles helmet?

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The plan with TJ is to keep him on the bench this year unless really needed, so as not to have to give up anymore draft choices. Betts will not sign with us next year, thats when we will use him.

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[QUOTE=chris36;227649]The plan with TJ is to keep him on the bench this year unless really needed, so as not to have to give up anymore draft choices. Betts will not sign with us next year, thats when we will use him.[/QUOTE]


I hope you're correct Chris, and that this is the plan. I would love for Duckett to remain with the team, but of course we have to sign him first. It's likely we'll sign either him or Betts to a new contract.

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[quote=Longtimefan;227650]I hope you're correct Chris, and that this is the plan. I would love for Duckett to remain with the team, but of course we have to sign him first. It's likely we'll sign either him or Betts to a new contract.[/quote]
Especially with Rock presenting to be a solid kick returner. I

I think Betts may be pretty good trade bait next year but we'll see. (does anyone know how many years he's got left on his contract?)

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[quote=RobH4413;227652]Especially with Rock presenting to be a solid kick returner. I

I think Betts may be pretty good trade bait next year but we'll see. (does anyone know how many years he's got left on his contract?)[/quote]
Both Betts and Duckett are free agents after this season. If Duckett never sees the light of day and signs elsewhere, giving up a 3rd rounder will have to go down as one of our worst trades.