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[quote=Grim21Reaper;274875]You don't exploit someone who lost their arm fighting for our way of life. That was disgusting.[/quote]yeah, its really digusting actually hearing from someone that was really there. and not most of the senate, and administration, that has never even served for this wonderful country of ours, let alone fought for it. you have got to be kidding me

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Back to the game, at least it was an entertaining Super Bowl. The first half was pretty wild with all the turnovers, the kickoff return, etc. Good to see Manning get that monkey off his back, he's not going to go down in history as the next Marino. I thought they should have split the MVP between the Colts' RBs but I don't have a problem with Manning getting it either.

Funny how even a Super Bowl thread takes us back to Brunell. Excuse me while I go kick some dirt on Barbaro.

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So now that Peyton has his ring, who is the best active QB not to have a Super Bowl win?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;274949]So now that Peyton has his ring, who is the best active QB not to have a Super Bowl win?[/QUOTE]

Carson Palmer.

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[quote=TAFKAS;274949]So now that Peyton has his ring, who is the best active QB not to have a Super Bowl win?[/quote]

Jason Campbell. :)




Yeah yeah...burgandy and gold glasses off now...

Palmer, Brees, Trent Green?

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[quote=TAFKAS;274949]So now that Peyton has his ring, who is the best active QB not to have a Super Bowl win?[/quote]

Mark Brunell.

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I would say McNair (maybe McNabb), a lot has to do with the length of their careers to this point compared to guys like Brees or Palmer

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[quote=70Chip;275010]Mark Brunell.[/quote]

He said best ACTIVE, not best ROSTERED. :D

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[quote=TAFKAS;274949]So now that Peyton has his ring, who is the best active QB not to have a Super Bowl win?[/quote]I agree that it's Palmer. Palmer may find himself in the same situation as Manning down the road. Perrennial playoff team who "couldn't win the big one" because the defense can't get over the hump.

God I hate that phrase "can't win the big one". It's like someone who hated Peyton Manning up and decided that "the big one" was defined by any game the Manning led Colts lost. There's no substance to that theroy.

On an unrelated note, how much better were the 2005 Colts then the 2006 Colts? The 2005 team had a very good defense, and one of the best offenses in NFL history. That team lost to the Steelers in the Divisional Round because although they had been the better team all that season, they werent the better team on that one day. Ironically, this Colts team probably was not a top 5 AFC team in the regular season, and won the super bowl for the same reason they lost in the playoffs a year ago: They may have been going up against some clearly better teams, but they outplayed each one of them on the day they played, and thus are the SB Champions.

This was a pretty improbable playoff run for Peyton and Gang, but considering some of the improbable defeats this team took in the past, they certainly deserve this one.

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I think that even if Manning did win it all this year, it would not have been considered "enough" if he didn't beat Brady and the Pats along the way

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I don't think he had to necessilary beat NE. I think that a lot of people were just waiting for Peyton to get a ring before they crowned him as one of the greatest to ever play. But why? Is Peyton any better at QB now then he was three weeks ago? Probably a [I]bit[/I] because of the way he won that Patriot game with the comeback, but anyone with a brain knew that he was capable of beating NE (because anyone who follows the NFL knew that the last two times the teams played in NE, the Colts were victorious), and that there were many logical reasons that it had never happened in the past for him. Throughout his career he had won high pressure games, and lost others. Who was some idiot sportswriter (or a group of them) to determine whether or not Peyton Manning was fit to ever win a superbowl?

I just think that saying that Player "X" is a really great player but can't win the big one is an ignorant position. Obviously these great quarterbacks got that reputations for being great because they won games down the stretch for their teams.

I think can't win the big one is too general of a statement to be taken seriously. If the "Big One" refers only to the super bowl, then all players who have never played in the super bowl are exempt from this tag. If it's just the Conference Championships and the Super Bowl that qualify as big games, then you have to have played and failed in multiple Conference Championships to don the tag. If it's all playoff games, then by definition, a win in a playoff game relieves you of the cant win the big one tag.

A guy who plays well and leads an otherwise inferior team to many key victories is uncomparibly better to a guy who "wins big games" while being along for the ride with a great team. Guys in the media who lable ANY player as being "unable to win the big game" are ignorant enough to disagree with this point.

Technically, the Colts got very fortunate on the road to SB XLI. They got to play a Chiefs team with a struggling offense that had eeked into the playoffs, and the next week they went into Baltimore. I didnt think the Colts would beat the Ravens, but when they did, they were very lucky that the Patriots won and they got to play the Championship game at home, instead of in SD where I doubt they could have won. Getting to the SB was a tough road, and then they got fortunate enough to get the Bears in a situation where they turned the ball over 5 times.

What sportswriters need to take from this is the lesson learned that even the team that gets boned time and time again in the playoffs is capable of winning it all if things break right.

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[quote=TAFKAS;275014]I would say McNair (maybe McNabb), a lot has to do with the length of their careers to this point compared to guys like Brees or Palmer[/quote]

I'd go with McNabb... Palmer needs a few more years before the monkey creeps onto his back.

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[quote=Gmanc711;274886]Good Game, Good Time had here. Congrats to the Colts, although I'm very jealous, but I'm glad Peyton/Dungy won the big one.


Now the one thing that did piss me off tonight, and maybe i'm a woman for this but....

Wasn't some idiot supposed to drop crazy money to propose to his wife via super bowl commerical?? When did that happen?[/quote]

It would be cheaper for him to eat what he paid for the commercial and run as fast as he can.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;274886]Wasn't some idiot supposed to drop crazy money to propose to his wife via super bowl commerical?? When did that happen?[/QUOTE]

It ended up airing on Veronica Mars last night. Here it is

[url=http://www.ifilm.com/video/2820143]My Super Proposal[/url]

and her response:

[url=http://www.ifilm.com/video/2820607]My Super Proposal - Her Reaction: IFILM Exclusive![/url]

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[quote=TAFKAS;275614]It ended up airing on Veronica Mars last night. Here it is

[URL="http://www.ifilm.com/video/2820143"]My Super Proposal[/URL]

and her response:

[URL="http://www.ifilm.com/video/2820607"]My Super Proposal - Her Reaction: IFILM Exclusive![/URL][/quote]


I would have expected more in the sweater puppet department....