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I have very little love for Reid I think he has been able to shine as the best of the dammed.

Since Reid's inception as the Eagles HC the NFC has not had one single team that is dominant unlike the AFC with the Patriots Chargers and Colts who are always competitive the NFC has been a bubbling pot of mediocre teams where the scum rises to the top and it can be any team that gets there.

When you look back to the 80s you have Gibbs ducking it out with Parcells and Landry in the NFCE Bill Walsh's 49ers, Ditkas Bears... you think in 20 years time people are really look back and talk about the nearly men of the NFL and lament about Rieds Eagles? It will all be about the AFC and the Patriots and Dungys Colts .

To compare Gibbs to Payton ...well out there .... Payton may be the next HoF coach in waiting but he like smith managed to catch the lightning in the bottle in 2006 and that carried the saints far but not far enough. It will be interesting to see how things pan out

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I mentioned Coughlin as an afterthought because of the success he had in Jacksonville. He hasn't had the same success in New York, hence why he didn't make my top 5.

Fisher and Del Rio are players' coaches. Good motivators, and they've been able to do great things without too many superstars. John Fox in Carolina is the same way, just a few more tools than Del Rio has. Lovie Smith has the Bears on the verge of greatness, and did it with a stellar defense and a mediocre quarterback (see Billick during their Super Bowl year). Andy Reid's Eagles have set the tone for the NFC East for several years now, aside from the 2005 season when McNabb went down.

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Gibbs
Reid
Bill B in NE
Shanahan
Holmgren

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I love Joe Gibbs as much as anyone. BUT LET'S KEEP IT REAL AROUND HERE. How can anyone have Joe Gibbs in the top 5??? That is just ridicules. People need to stop living in the past.

1. Bill B.
2. Andy R.
3. Tony D.
4. Jeff F.
5. Lovie Smith

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you giving lovie smithy props for one good year? lets see more out of the bears before we go anointing anyone

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Yeah, I don't how Smith make this list.

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if you are grading the coaches on what they have done since Gibbs has come back. There is no way Gibbs right now is in the top 5. We all love Gibbs but lets be real here.

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Geez, one more person say that.

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[quote=dmek25;337350]you giving lovie smithy props for one good year? lets see more out of the bears before we go anointing anyone[/quote]

Smith has taken his team to the playoffs/SB just about every year. Totally turned that team around. What were the Bears doing before he got there? Nothing.

But you could also put Holmgren or Shanahan in there too. But no way is Joe Gibbs a top 5 NFL coach right now. Sorry.

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I'm anxious to see how the Bears are impacted by the loss of Ron Rivera

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what lovie smith has that we dont have is a top notch front office.

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[quote=SmootSmack;337416]I'm anxious to see how the Bears are impacted by the loss of Ron Rivera[/quote]I don't think we will ever be able to seperate the role Smith had these last three seasons from the role Rivera had. However, the press around here seems to be of the opinion that Rivera pretty much went through Lovie regarding all defensive issues. So I would think that things aren't going to be much different with someone else going through Smith now.

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smith done a great job in chitown. If Grossman come thru they will be favored to make the SB again.

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[quote=SmootSmack;337416]I'm anxious to see how the Bears are impacted by the loss of Ron Rivera[/quote]

They won't miss a beat.

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[quote=skinsfan69;337525]They won't miss a beat.[/quote]
too me, the bears are a very over rated team. i would really have to think long and hard if i had to choose between Grossman or brunell. yes, they have a monstrous defense, but that offense isn't much better then the raiders. and we know how good they are. i think the thing with Briggs, and them counting on Cedric Bensen to carry the load, will really show up in the loss column. and Lovie Smith has been there exactly how long? my top, as of right now, are Reid, Dungy, Shanahan, Bellicek, and Holmgren