Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;394283]Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7-_E5hNuz0"]YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel[/URL][/quote]


If a player lays a hard hit on somebody and doesn't get up afterward it loses some of the effect, I don't care how hard it was ... after watching the hit it seems Schobel made it off the field before Hamlin. Doesn't Hamlin have a plate in his head from the fight in Seattle?

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;394518]I think he needs to attend some tackling clinics.[/QUOTE]

Roy 'lasso" Williams looks like he could use a leave of absence like that ol' hockey boy, Chris Simon. Rollin Rollin Rollin, I'll horse collar till your swollen, Royhide!

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;394283]Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7-_E5hNuz0]YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel[/url][/QUOTE]

I've looked at that hit several times, and I'm not impressed. He didn't do anything spectacular. He was in the right place, at the right time, and he just jumped in the air. Big deal. He even turned his body away from Schobel at the last second -- not a sign of a great tackle.

Great tackles are where the defender breaks down, wraps up, and drives the ball carrier back, and down into the turf. I remember a time when that was important. Sigh.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=DGreene28;394770]If a player lays a hard hit on somebody and doesn't get up afterward it loses some of the effect, I don't care how hard it was ... after watching the hit it seems Schobel made it off the field before Hamlin. Doesn't Hamlin have a plate in his head from the fight in Seattle?[/quote]

In case you missed it Sunday, Schobel went to the locker room and was done for the day. Hamlin was out for the mandatory one play and finished the game.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=bigmarley4;394612]Roy Williams is overrated, as many have said. He can't cover and is a cheapshot expert.

As far as Hamlin's hit goes, I don't really see anything wrong with it. He led with his shoulder at the receiver to break up the play. Great timing and hit there. As someone earlier said, if ST did that we'd be like "Hell yeah!" Of course, if LL did it, there would be a penalty. Not for the hit, but the smack talking afterwards :).[/quote]

Looked like helmet-to-helmet to me. I'd be less pissed if ST/Landry did it, but I still wouldn't be happy about it. After all, we don't need a Roy Williams on the team - we just need a gifted safety who can tackle [U]and[/U] lay the wood.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;394289]Lets see....no flag.....no penalty.....no fine......and that hit was illegal how? Oh because Nicknack said so![/quote]

Even Aikman said so. It was helmet to helmet. It should've been a penalty.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=theJBexperience;395043]Even Aikman said so. It was helmet to helmet. It should've been a penalty.[/quote]

Oh well Aikman, a sports broadcaster, why did'nt you say so. Lets just get the commish on the phone right now if thats the case. Wow Aikman said so!

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;395062]Oh well Aikman, a sports broadcaster, why did'nt you say so. Lets just get the commish on the phone right now if thats the case. Wow Aikman said so![/quote]

Are you arguing that it [U]wasn't[/U] helmet-to-helmet? Or that it wasn't "unnecessary"? Or are you arguing that helmet-to-helmet isn't a penalty?

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=Gibbsmeatitle#1;394810]Roy 'lasso" Williams looks like he could use a leave of absence like that ol' hockey boy, Chris Simon. Rollin Rollin Rollin, I'll horse collar till your swollen, Royhide![/quote]Royhide!!! Gotta love it - best laugh I've had all week ;-)

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

Ol' Roy [U]does [/U]know the proper way to tackle, he chooses the easy, dangerous way instead, plain and simple. I hope the NFL makes it a stiffer penalty and suspension next time. Listen, my son started mighty mite (7-9yr)
football this past year and the one drill they did the most was...... you guessed it, tackling, the proper way, so as to reduce the chance of injury. Maybe Ol'Roy needs to go back to pee wee football basic, fundemental tackling drills.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=onlydarksets;395066]Are you arguing that it [U]wasn't[/U] helmet-to-helmet? Or that it wasn't "unnecessary"? Or are you arguing that helmet-to-helmet isn't a penalty?[/quote]

I dont believe it was helmet to helmet. It appears that Hamlin is turning his body going in and makes contact with his right shoulder. But that is one mans opinion. Just like you have yours, and yes Aikman has his.

But the point I was trying to make, is there is no doubt the NFL League offices has reviewd this hit over and over again trying to determine if there is cause for discipline or a fine. And no fine has come down, the coach and team have not recieved any warnings from the NFL, and it appears the NFL finds nothing wrong with the hit, it was legal. The apparent non-action of the league with regard to this play indicates that.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

All this talk about Roy Williams, but I'm surprised the nfl didn't hit D. Ware w/ a fine after he body slammed Kitna. That was after Newman made his comments about having $ to pay for anyone's fine.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=freddyg12;395272]All this talk about Roy Williams, but I'm surprised the nfl didn't hit D. Ware w/ a fine after he body slammed Kitna. That was after Newman made his comments about having $ to pay for anyone's fine.[/quote]

The NFL DID fine DeMarcus Ware 12,500 for that body slam on Kitna.

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;394283]Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7-_E5hNuz0"]YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel[/URL][/quote]

He should be suspended for that hit..

Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar
 

No story here, Williams' tackle was dirty...he's knows its illegal, yet he's done it many times...he forced the league to suspend him by not changing his methods.