Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[quote=QBall;412166]Never won a playoff game he's a chump like T.O. and Romo.....[/quote]

13-3, won division, a record 12 players in the pro-bowl....all in his first year as coach. Name me another head coach who has done that in his first year. I'll wager that you cannot.

Yeah, lost that playoff game, and is 0-4 in the playoffs. But there are tons more that are 0-0 because they never been there. I am sure there are former Skins coaches who have 4 playoff losses on their resume as well. But that does not make them chumps.

Marty Schottenhiemer is a great coach, but has his share of playoff woes, does that make him a chump?

I just remind myself of the 2004 Steelers, 15-1 regular season, lost at home just like Dallas, one and done in the playoffs. The following year they won the Super Bowl. Then there is the 2005 Colts, 14-2 regular season, one and done in the playoffs. Following year...won the Super Bowl. Lest we forget the 2006 Chargers....14-2 regular season....one and done in the playoffs. Following year....played in the AFC Championship. It is that type of reasoning that keeps my hopes up. That and Dallas is the 4th youngest team in the NFL, so the core group of players they have will be in a Cowboys uniform for a long time.

Now is Wade the second coming of Parcells, or Bellichick? No, but he is not a chump.

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;412207]13-3, won division, a record 12 players in the pro-bowl....all in his first year as coach. Name me another head coach who has done that in his first year. I'll wager that you cannot.

Yeah, lost that playoff game, and is 0-4 in the playoffs. But there are tons more that are 0-0 because they never been there. I am sure there are former Skins coaches who have 4 playoff losses on their resume as well. But that does not make them chumps.

[B]Marty Schottenhiemer is a great coach, but has his share of playoff woes, does that make him a chump?[/B]

I just remind myself of the 2004 Steelers, 15-1 regular season, lost at home just like Dallas, one and done in the playoffs. The following year they won the Super Bowl. Then there is the 2005 Colts, 14-2 regular season, one and done in the playoffs. Following year...won the Super Bowl. Lest we forget the 2006 Chargers....14-2 regular season....one and done in the playoffs. Following year....played in the AFC Championship. It is that type of reasoning that keeps my hopes up. That and Dallas is the 4th youngest team in the NFL, so the core group of players they have will be in a Cowboys uniform for a long time.

Now is Wade the second coming of Parcells, or Bellichick? No, but he is not a chump.[/quote]

Let's just clarify a bit. Marty is a good coach, but his dismal postseason record is definitely a big blemish on his resume.

If the Cowboys take another early playoff exit next year, then would you start placing Wade in the chump category?

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

He may not, but another 1 and done from Wade and Jerry Jones will warm up the Garrett bandwagon...

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[quote=Mattyk72;412096]Sure it might be on a free host but the domain name had to have been purchased.[/quote]

Yeah, they spent a whole $7 on it. In other words, a beer at FedEx. Give me a break, I can't decide what's worse, the people screaming about selling their season tickets, or the people getting so self-righteous about THOSE people.

Even WaPo has characterized the fan reaction as overwhelmingly negative. According to them, most people want Williams and at the very least want nothing to do with Fassel. At a certain point you'll have to deal with the fact that it's not just a handful of stupid morons who disagree with you and do not want anything to do with Fassel.

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[quote=Mattyk72;412212]Let's just clarify a bit. Marty is a good coach, but his dismal postseason record is definitely a big blemish on his resume.

If the Cowboys take another early playoff exit next year, then would you start placing Wade in the chump category?[/quote]

Nope. As I said, the Cowboys are the 4th youngest team in the NFL, you can credit playoff inexperience as much as anything. But the age of his team is not a reflection of the coach.

Now if Wade was to do something like call consecutive timeouts, that is another story.

Hey Parcells was 0-2 in the playoffs in Dallas, so is he a chump? Nope, his Hall of Fame speech is written. In the salary cap era, Joe Gibbs had twice as many playoff losses as wins, but is he in the "chump" category? Nope.

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

my whole thing about this is , if you are going outside of the organization for a head coach, why not try and throw some money out at coaches who are worth a damn. Cower, (i know I'll get slammed for this one) but i'll say it anyway, Jimmy Johnson. I know Danny doesn't worry about money, and it would take a chunk to get either one of them, but they are far better than Fassell.

I wouldn't even be opposed to Russ Grimm..

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;412207]13-3, won division, a record 12 players in the pro-bowl....all in his first year as coach. Name me another head coach who has done that in his first year. I'll wager that you cannot.

Yeah, lost that playoff game, and is 0-4 in the playoffs. But there are tons more that are 0-0 because they never been there. I am sure there are former Skins coaches who have 4 playoff losses on their resume as well. But that does not make them chumps.

Marty Schottenhiemer is a great coach, but has his share of playoff woes, does that make him a chump?

I just remind myself of the 2004 Steelers, 15-1 regular season, lost at home just like Dallas, one and done in the playoffs. The following year they won the Super Bowl. Then there is the 2005 Colts, 14-2 regular season, one and done in the playoffs. Following year...won the Super Bowl. Lest we forget the 2006 Chargers....14-2 regular season....one and done in the playoffs. Following year....played in the AFC Championship. It is that type of reasoning that keeps my hopes up. That and Dallas is the 4th youngest team in the NFL, so the core group of players they have will be in a Cowboys uniform for a long time.

Now is Wade the second coming of Parcells, or Bellichick? No, but he is not a chump.[/QUOTE]

I know that you're a Dallas fan and I would be the same way if Redskins were on the line.

But please don't give Wade too much credit for 13-3. He was given a pretty sweet gig and stepped into that job nicely. What moves did he make personel wise that Bill didn't do? He just sat on the sidelines with that dumb blank look on his face most of the year.

I'm not sure but what was the conversation between Garret and Jones about to get him to stay? Wade is a lame duck and if Dallas starts out badly he'll be fired mid-stream. Wade just really does not invoke any thougths, he's blank man!!

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[quote=QBall;412229]I know that you're a Dallas fan and I would be the same way if Redskins were on the line.

But please don't give Wade too much credit for 13-3. He was given a pretty sweet gig and stepped into that job nicely. What moves did he make personel wise that Bill didn't do? He just sat on the sidelines with that dumb blank look on his face most of the year.

I'm not sure but what was the conversation between Garret and Jones about to get him to stay? Wade is a lame duck and if Dallas starts out badly he'll be fired mid-stream. Wade just really does not invoke any thougths, he's blank man!![/quote]

Blank? You know I do not even want to go there, because it would force me to remind everyone of the blank look on Gibbs face on the sidelines, expecially in his first season back coaching. I seem to remember him struggling with soemthing called the play clock when he came back to coaching, and need you be reminded of the consecutive timeout penalty he got in his final year. But he is not a chump, and I will continue to believe that.

Again Phillips is not a Gibbs, Parcell, Lombardi, Landry or any of the others, He is what he is. And of all the cadidates available, he gives the team the best chance to win right now. That may or may not change next season.
We'll see.

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

Looks like its going to awhile until they make anyone an offer according to JLC.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[quote=Redskins_P;412262]Looks like its going to awhile until they make anyone an offer according to JLC.

[URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL][/quote]

I know, that latest blog entry is pretty disheartening ... as is the fact that we currently have like four threads discussing the same topic, each with numerous side arguments (Wade Phillips sucks! Nah ah! ... Everyone thought Gibbs would lead the Skins to the SB when he returned! Nah ah!). I just posted the JLC blog in another of said forums, but no worries since no one can keep up with all the threads anyway.

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;412242]Blank? You know I do not even want to go there, because it would force me to remind everyone of the blank look on Gibbs face on the sidelines, expecially in his first season back coaching. I seem to remember him struggling with soemthing called the play clock when he came back to coaching, and need you be reminded of the consecutive timeout penalty he got in his final year. But he is not a chump, and I will continue to believe that.

Again Phillips is not a Gibbs, Parcell, Lombardi, Landry or any of the others, He is what he is. And of all the cadidates available, he gives the team the best chance to win right now. That may or may not change next season.
We'll see.[/QUOTE]

I know that timeout thing was big but he made it from 51 yards anyway. This is going nowhere, lets just drop it. Gibbs three superbowls were a long time ago but he has them. I hope Wade never wins a game in the Playoffs.

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[QUOTE=Redskins_P;412262]Looks like its going to awhile until they make anyone an offer according to JLC.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url][/QUOTE]


IS THERE ANY CHANCE GIBBS COMES BACK OUT OF RETIREMENT???????

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

[quote=QBall;412272]IS THERE ANY CHANCE GIBBS COMES BACK OUT OF RETIREMENT???????[/quote]

NO WAY IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Do Not Break Up Our Continuity !!
 

Mr. Snyder , Please Do Not Break Up The Momentum That The Team
Has For 2008. Give Willliam's A Shot And Give The Team A Chance To
Make A Run For It In 2008.!!!!!!!!

Re: No offer made to Fassel yet!!!!
 

Hey, I hear Barry Switzer's looking for a head coaching job:) Please, hire Williams let him have a shot at it. The fan's love him, the players love him, hire him and leave the team to the football heads. Oh, you still don't have one in Vinny " Yes Sir" Cerrato. Maybe the Skins can go the way of Six Flags, Golden Globe and start to lose money for Snyder before he realizes the mess he's in again.