Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=Lotus;532472]Andre Smith was a Combine flop because, in his words, he was "not in shape."

As a prospective NFL player, it is his job to be in shape! Would you go to a doctor who said he couldn't be bothered to keep up with medical advances? Would you go to a lawyer who said he didn't care about bar certification? Geez, Andre Smith would have been better off showing up at the Combine in a t-shirt which said "BUST" in block letters.

His talent doesn't matter - JUST SAY NO to Andre Smith.[/quote]

Ok so he made a mistake about getting in shape at the combine, but A) at least his stocks falling, because he's not ready to workout, than him killing someone or beating someone up in a club, B) the guy once he gets some training camp in him will perform believe me, he only allowed one sack in college, and had he shown up at the combine he's a definite top ten pick who we all wished we had, just watch his highlight reel in college

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;532446]If they really want get rid of Jansen, then they should cut him and eat his salary cap. Sign Runyan (as much as I hate him, he's a mauler) draft Mack this year and draft another T or 2 in 2010.[/quote]

Since none of these things is going to happen I won't spend too much time with it.

If they draft a lineman at 13 it HAS to be a tackle. They don't need a center right now, they need a tackle. Next year is a different story.

If they signed Runyan, Vinny should be fired immediately. Jansen is hopefully going to be the backup and then he is gone next year. They aren't cutting anyone who would count against the cap this year. (One of the reasons that trading Rogers for a pick(s) made zero sense)

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=The Goat;532439]JLC said some retarded stuff here IMO. We need to add 2 or 3 LBs? Really? What the hell are we doing switching to a 3-4 defense before the season starts. We need one playmaker at OLB to ensure 1) Taylor play's at his pro-bowl position RDE 2) if there is an injury to one of the starters we have a guy to come in and play like a starter i.e. Blades. JLC is just making stuff up here...[/quote]

I think they need two linebackers. I don't think Rocky can be counted on as a fulltime linebacker. He has broken down or declined at the end of the year when given a full workload. I think they should platoon Rocky with another linebacker and try and have him healthy at the end of the year. He has been a stud at the beginning of the season and then is either on the shelf or benched.

I like the idea of working J Taylor as the SAM here and there but I do not think he should be a linebacker full time. Jason Taylor is a defensive end. We brought him here to be a disruptive force as an end. I like his versatility but if they make him the full time strong side LB they are wasting his talents.

I would say that ideally Blades is your first LB off the bench, not a full time starter. He is good but certainly not in the league of a healthy Rocky or Marcus Washington.

Now with Phat Albert eating up blockers 2 or 3 at a time, maybe we are fine but I would not be upset at all if we take 2 or 3 LBs in the draft.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

Well it says in the article that some in the organization feel Heyer can be an above average RT. If the top o-linemen are gone at that point and there is an outstanding LB still on the board, it would'nt surprise me if we took him. Guys like Loadbolt (sp?) could conceivably still be there in the 3rd round or we could possibly work a deal to move up to the second. It really depends on how the draft falls I guess.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=53Fan;532515]Well it says in the article that some in the organization feel Heyer can be an above average RT. If the top o-linemen are gone at that point and there is an outstanding LB still on the board, it would'nt surprise me if we took him. Guys like Loadbolt (sp?) could conceivably still be there in the 3rd round or we could possibly work a deal to move up to the second. It really depends on how the draft falls I guess.[/quote]

I know you want to give Heyer a chance but to me he's average at best, so unless he has a monster offseason I don't see him improving to much. Would love it though if was able to. And as far as drafting Loadholt in the 3rd, it's definately a conceiveable option, but look how long it took to develop Dockery. Heck we seem to be going though the same thing Rhinehart right now. Any one of the big 4 could easily make an impact next year and onward.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;532461]I rather have Jansen and give him another chance. The only reason I say this is, if Jansen does get cut then I would sign Runyan and give him a 1 year contract and plug the whole for this year.[/quote]

jansen can't get cut. it's cheaper to keep him, so he's here regardless.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=70Chip;532487]Six names. You have access to all the power of ESPN and you come up with 6 names. How many people have played the position in the last fifteen years? Hundreds. I stand by my contention that if it looks like a bust, smells like a bust, lives in the training room like a bust, and can't memorize plays like a bust, then it is probably a bust.[/quote]

do you're own research then. the list is pretty long... mccardell didn't do anything till his 4th year, ginn had 400 yards his rookie season (and he started 9 games)... winslow had 2 crappy years ;), coles only had 370 his first season (another guy that started games). burress had 270 his rookie year (starting 9 games - and 0 TDs). hines ward had 240 yards as a rookie.

search nfl.com if you want more. it's VERY rare for a WR to jump in like boldin or colston.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=That Guy;532527]do you're own research then. the list is pretty long... mccardell didn't do anything till his 4th year, ginn had 400 yards his rookie season (and he started 9 games)... winslow had 2 crappy years ;), coles only had 370 his first season (another guy that started games). burress had 270 his rookie year (starting 9 games - and 0 TDs). hines ward had 240 yards as a rookie.

search nfl.com if you want more. it's VERY rare for a WR to jump in like boldin or colston.[/quote]

It's not even worth discussing, he said there weren't any at all. Clearly that's wrong. But he still believes what he believes. I guess we should just draft more wide receivers this year

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Interesting four page read about a WAPO Insider article of pure conjecture!

Insider apparently doesn't access CC/Schneed's salary cap page here in the Warpath! We still have some Cap wiggle room. Everything written in the Insider needs to be taken with a grain of salt!

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=backrow;532537]Interesting four page read about a WAPO Insider article of pure conjecture!

Insider apparently doesn't access CC/Schneed's salary cap page here in the Warpath! We still have some Cap wiggle room. Everything written in the Insider needs to be taken with a grain of salt![/quote]
My thoughts exactly. As was written in another thread by several people, the Post no longer has any "inside" info. In fact, the casual fan who watches Total Access has more insider info on the Skins.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=The Goat;532453] Jansen will make a very good back-up IMO and wouldn't be surprised to see him compete on the interior, depending on Thomas' status.[/quote]

I've been preaching this for awhile now. Jansen's diminished quickness hurts him against end rushers and OLB blitzing, but he's still good in the running game. A switch to guard would not only extend his career but I actually think he would be an upgrade to Thomas.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=SmootSmack;532534]It's not even worth discussing, he said there weren't any at all. Clearly that's wrong. But he still believes what he believes. I guess we should just draft more wide receivers this year[/quote]

Who needs research when you have the smell test? Don't you know that trumps all?

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We need to move Randy Thomas to right tackle and try that out and move Jansen to right guard. Thomas has always been a better pass blocker than run blocker which we need for our west coast offense to take root. If the injuries are behind Thomas is more than capable for the adjustment since he is athletic.

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Not sure I like the idea of experimenting with moving guys around. Let's do the smart thing and draft a starter at RT and go from there.

Re: The Redskins want to replace Jon Jansen for good
 

[quote=Mattyk72;532564]Not sure I like the idea of experimenting with moving guys around. Let's do the smart thing and draft a starter at RT and go from there.[/quote]
Bingo! AND maybe JJ can play a little bu (if his ego can stand it) and maybe.......he can compete at R guard.