Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=Landry44;650057]You sound like you're out of your mind. I completely understand the importance of a shutdown corner. But our team doesn't need a shutdown corner right now. We need offensive linemen. We need a franchise qb. We need lbs. We need breakaway rb. We do not need to address our secondary when they have played pretty solid this year. What we need to do is trade the pick away for more picks.[/quote]

In an ideal world u can trade away picks and get value for the extra picks u receive, but its not that easy to find a trading partner who gives you value for that pick. It seems like less and less these days that NFL teams are willing to move into the top 10 to draft guys, b/c of the risk of whether they will adapt to the pro game from college as well as the cap implications if they fail (due to these absurd rookie contracts). Also though I'll agree that offensive linemen are the safest position to take in the top 5, they are still anything but a sure thing. I'm just scared sh*tless of having this pick be a bust. It means too much for our franchise.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;650059]^ none of those guys are worth the 4th pick in any draft. Samuel is great but he's in Philly where they would never trade to a division rival... Sorry but this isn't franchise mode in madden, you can't trade a pick like that for a 29 year old corner .[/quote]

With the exception of Hayden all of those young guys were taken in the top 20 of their respective drafts. IMHO, these guys have a legit shot of growing into a shutdown corner role. That along with the fact that we'd have to pay them a lot less money (as compared to a #4 pick) to me is worth dropping ~15 spots. I also said that we could try to pick up an extra pick or player to even up the transaction.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=Rajmahal33;650060]In an ideal world u can trade away picks and get value for the extra picks u receive, but its not that easy to find a trading partner who gives you value for that pick. It seems like less and less these days that NFL teams are willing to move into the top 10 to draft guys, b/c of the risk of whether they will adapt to the pro game from college as well as the cap implications if they fail (due to these absurd rookie contracts). Also though I'll agree that offensive linemen are the safest position to take in the top 5, they are still anything but a sure thing. I'm just scared sh*tless of having this pick be a bust. It means too much for our franchise.[/quote] A few years ago, I told guys on ESPN Redskins message board, that trading our picks for veterans was bad way to build a team. They looked at it as not being a big deal. They felt as long as you got quality guys it didn't matter if we drafted them or acquired them in free agency. Three years later, these same guys now realize that they were wrong. The draft is very important. It's about time us as fans start showing some patience and let guys develop.

If you look at it, our team is old. Right now, we need to get younger on offense and defense. We need to build depth in every position, not just the OL. That is what the draft is for. I can't see why anybody would think it's a good idea to trade away the 4th pick to acquire a vet that you're not sure is going to work out. The best thing for us to do is to trade down. We need more picks.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

Trade Cooley for more picks, and that will address the line. Interesting that the Rutgers OT is already jumping like crazy by Scouts Inc. They claim many OL prospects, so thats good news.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=LandrySlice;650097]Trade Cooley for more picks, and that will address the line. Interesting that the Rutgers OT is already jumping like crazy by Scouts Inc. They claim many OL prospects, so thats good news.[/quote]


I love the move of trading Cooley for more picks, not sure if that is a very popular move around DC though? I would hate to give him up, but for what ever reason this organization wants to draft a QB in the top 5. If that is the case then we need anouther first round pick to shore up the line a little. No other player on our team garners a 1st round pick, or 2nd for that matter. I can't believe that we have the opportunity to draft the best Olineman in college and we are crapping on that because of Danny's unrelenting desire to get Campbell of the door.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=GMScud;650035]If you want a corner so badly, why not just draft Joe Haden? I'm certainly not suggesting we use our 4th pick on him, but by your rationale, that would be the best move. He came to Florida having never played corner before, and yet he started at CB from day one as a freshman and hasn't missed a game since and was 1st team all-American this year. Plus he's a local guy. He's a sick prospect.

You say trade the 4th pick for a great corner. Who? [B]What young shutdown corner is out there that is trade bait?[/B][/quote]You could probably grab Asomugha for Rogers + 4th overall pick.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=GTripp0012;650116]You could probably grab Asomugha for Rogers + 4th overall pick.[/quote]

When I first read this I thought you said Rogers+a 4th and immediately decided Tripp had lost his ever-loving mind.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=FRPLG;650130]When I first read this I thought you said Rogers+a 4th and immediately decided Tripp had lost his ever-loving mind.[/quote]I was also going to suggest dealing our fifth overall rounder to the Packers for Greg Jennings.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

I'm not overly impressed with any of the QBs in this year's draft; however we do need to draft a QB in 2010 or 2011. 2011 could be even "slimmer pickings" than what we have this year, so we might not have much of a choice. There aren't many top tier OTs in this draft either, so taking a QB may wind up being the "smartest" move. I don't like Clausen at all. We'd be better off taking Tebow at #4. I'm indifferent to McCoy. I could live with Bradford. Not really familiar with Pike and Snead.

Drafting Okung with our 1st and then snagging Tebow with our 2nd would be nice. I don't think Tebow will be a great NFL QB, but Shanahan could use him more effectively than most other coaches. ideally, shanahan could work his magic Colt Brennan turn him into a player. I'm not a cult-of-colt member but he's "free."

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;650153]I'm not overly impressed with any of the QBs in this year's draft; however we do need to draft a QB in 2010 or 2011. 2011 could be even "slimmer pickings" than what we have this year, so we might not have much of a choice. There aren't many top tier OTs in this draft either, so taking a QB may wind up being the "smartest" move. [B]I don't like Clausen at all. We'd be better off taking Tebow at #4.[/B] I'm indifferent to McCoy. I could live with Bradford. Not really familiar with Pike and Snead.

Drafting Okung with our 1st and then snagging Tebow with our 2nd would be nice. I don't think Tebow will be a great NFL QB, but Shanahan could use him more effectively than most other coaches. ideally, shanahan could work his magic Colt Brennan turn him into a player. I'm not a cult-of-colt member but he's "free."[/quote]

You don't like Clausen? But you'd take Tebow at #4? Please explain both.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

Tebow in [I]round[/I] 4 maybe. lol

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

Clausen. IMO Bradford is slightly inferior to him because of the system he played in college. Clausen played in an NFL like style in college which would be a benefit for him to start Week 1. I'd expect suh not to slip. I think we need a QB first to turn a page with new coach new QB. But then again theres always Colt Brennan. . .

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

[quote=GTripp0012;650147]I was also going to suggest dealing our fifth overall rounder to the Packers for Greg Jennings.[/quote]

Why aren't you the GM?

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

Tebow at 4...that is seriously laughable.

Re: Redskins pick 4th in the draft
 

Draft Tebow with the 4th overall pick, and trade Campbell for Chris Simms. Our problems are solved!