Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;710290]Sorry, you can't go from worst to best with the acquisition of one top draft pick and one pro bowler. If you throw in the TE then we aren't bad, but the best? Come on, we sucked last year. The rook has yet to play a down in the NFL so God only knows if he is going to pan out. He most likely will, but not in a way to make our O line go last to first in a span of one season. Brown was the best acquisition via FA in a long time, and yes I am including McNabb in that, but we just plain have no depth. Other than our two newbies who do we have that is really all that great?[/quote]

2/5.. that's 40%

2 very solid pieces on the line will help a lot.. if you look at some of the best lines not every player is the best at their position.. or even top 5..

1 great player at a line position can change the line and open up opportunities... losing one can ruin it

nobody has a very solid line vs the pass rush in our division other than the giants and most of us have a pretty decent run line so basically it's a 3-way battle with NYG to see who has the best line

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

[quote=skinsnut;710304]This is a ridiculous thread[/quote]

ridiculous? there's a reason that the word "speculation" even exists

there is reason to believe that roles/positions within the division will change and due to some instances it's not silly to think that we may be at the forefront of benefiting from our additions

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

[quote=skinsnut;710304]This is a ridiculous thread[/quote]

I agree, who knew there could be so much drama by asking if something COULD happen.

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

our line has the most potential... looks good on paper.

Random Arbitrary List
 

[B]Best Offensive Lines in the League:[/B]
1. Jets - Any line that can protect a rookie QB and help lead a 31 year old running back to 1,400 yards rushing is always a candidate for best in the league.

2. Titans - A big part of Johnson's 2,000 yard season was the unit he had up front. The Titans have the best pair of bookends in the league with Michael Roos and David Stewart.

3. Saints - Best Guard tandem in the league by a mile and so much depth that they could afford to give us Jamamal Brown for what should qualify as nothing more than a tax write off.

4. Ravens - Gaither, Oher, Grubbs, and Birk. Guys who have either been to the pro bowl or are easily capable of making it one day. The quality in this group is scary

5. Vikings - One of the best left sides in the league with Mckinnie and Hutchinson though not as productive as they were a few years ago.

6. Dolphins - Very close to the Titans in terms of best bookends in Long and Carey.

7. Buccaneers - Say what you want about BA's time in Tampa, one area he didn't neglect was the Offensive Line. Had Aaron Sears not run into certain problems this unit would have been ranked higher.

8. Panthers - Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah round out the outside while my favorite Center Ryan Kalil is joined by former tackle Travelle Warton. Duke Robinson is a backup.

9. Browns - Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack are a great start to this line. Tony Pashos and Floyd Womack do a nice job rounding out the right side.

10. Redskins - If Trent Williams develops into what we think he can be then this unit will shoot straight to the top 3. They also have a lot of young guys coming up on the interior.

Other great lines: 49ers, Giants, Jaguars..

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

Sorry, but Schein? Adam Schein???? Who the hell is he???? Not to mention that reading that excerpt from his radio show made him sound like a goon. Or a fanboy.......

Re: Random Arbitrary List
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;710368][B]Best Offensive Lines in the League:[/B]
1. Jets - Any line that can protect a rookie QB and help lead a 31 year old running back to 1,400 yards rushing is always a candidate for best in the league.

2. Titans - A big part of Johnson's 2,000 yard season was the unit he had up front. The Titans have the best pair of bookends in the league with Michael Roos and David Stewart.

3. Saints - Best Guard tandem in the league by a mile and so much depth that they could afford to give us Jamamal Brown for what should qualify as nothing more than a tax write off.

4. Ravens - Gaither, Oher, Grubbs, and Birk. Guys who have either been to the pro bowl or are easily capable of making it one day. The quality in this group is scary

5. Vikings - One of the best left sides in the league with Mckinnie and Hutchinson though not as productive as they were a few years ago.

6. Dolphins - Very close to the Titans in terms of best bookends in Long and Carey.

7. Buccaneers - Say what you want about BA's time in Tampa, one area he didn't neglect was the Offensive Line. Had Aaron Sears not run into certain problems this unit would have been ranked higher.

8. Panthers - Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah round out the outside while my favorite Center Ryan Kalil is joined by former tackle Travelle Warton. Duke Robinson is a backup.

9. Browns - Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack are a great start to this line. Tony Pashos and Floyd Womack do a nice job rounding out the right side.

10. Redskins - If Trent Williams develops into what we think he can be then this unit will shoot straight to the top 3. They also have a lot of young guys coming up on the interior.

Other great lines: 49ers, Giants, Jaguars..[/quote]

The one thing I notice is most of these lines are good based off of production from last year. This Skins line hasn't even been through training camp yet. I hope they will be as good as people are thinking they can be. But I like to reserve judgement until I can see something more concrete.

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

The line should be better but it's time to put on the pads.

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

[quote=Kindoy;710366]our line has the most potential... looks good on paper.[/quote]

And at the heart of it, that's all this thread (and the original discussion on NFL radio) is about.

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

[quote=Kindoy;710366]our line has the most potential... looks good on paper.[/quote]


I have the maximum amount of respect for that word "potential". Somehow, it always manages to find it's way into sports discussions. So much depends on it's development.

Re: Random Arbitrary List
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;710368][B]Best Offensive Lines in the League:[/B]
1. Jets - Any line that can protect a rookie QB and help lead a 31 year old running back to 1,400 yards rushing is always a candidate for best in the league.

2. Titans - A big part of Johnson's 2,000 yard season was the unit he had up front. The Titans have the best pair of bookends in the league with Michael Roos and David Stewart.

3. Saints - Best Guard tandem in the league by a mile and so much depth that they could afford to give us Jamamal Brown for what should qualify as nothing more than a tax write off.

4. Ravens - Gaither, Oher, Grubbs, and Birk. Guys who have either been to the pro bowl or are easily capable of making it one day. The quality in this group is scary

5. Vikings - One of the best left sides in the league with Mckinnie and Hutchinson though not as productive as they were a few years ago.

6. Dolphins - Very close to the Titans in terms of best bookends in Long and Carey.

[B]7. Buccaneers - Say what you want about BA's time in Tampa, one area he didn't neglect was the Offensive Line. Had Aaron Sears not run into certain problems this unit would have been ranked higher.[/B]

8. Panthers - Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah round out the outside while my favorite Center Ryan Kalil is joined by former tackle Travelle Warton. Duke Robinson is a backup.

9. Browns - Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack are a great start to this line. Tony Pashos and Floyd Womack do a nice job rounding out the right side.

10. Redskins - If Trent Williams develops into what we think he can be then this unit will shoot straight to the top 3. They also have a lot of young guys coming up on the interior.

Other great lines: 49ers, Giants, Jaguars..[/quote]

I highlighted the bucs for obvious reasons. I think this is more indicitive as to were the OL is heading in the future.

If BA built a line in Tampa then you know his first order of business would be to get ours fixed. He understands where it all starts in football.

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;710320]Seriously. I think we could have the best offense, the best defense, the best special teams and win the Super Bowl. Is it likely? Probably not, but who cares? Why not think big and think positive? What good is being a fan if you're not going to get excited?[/quote]


Ahmen Brother!

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

EX thread? Is this suppose to be funny? Someone is really retarded if they think we have the best line without having seen the line play a single down together.

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

It would be interesting to see a survey that asks...
Which team currently has the most dominant line in the NFC east?
Eagles
Redskins
Cowboys
Giants

That is why I said the thread was ridiculous....because I think it is unlikely to believe the Skins would win a poll like that with the educated Skins fans that frequent this site.

Per the link provided:
"Miller continued, "That might've sealed the deal. What once was a weakness.... To me, Adam, [B]they may have the best offensive line in that division [U]right now[/U],[/B] and that's saying quite a bit."

Schein nearly blew out my headphones with enthusiasm. "Jeez," he boomed. "Wow! You just hit me over the head with that comment! You're right, Mills! I didn't even think about that! [B]You're a hundred percent right!"[/B]

Re: Could the Skins have the best offensive line in the division?
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;710244]For Adam "I love the Giants and for some reason have a huge man crush on Romo" Schien to give the Redskins any love, we must have done something right. He has hated on us for so long. I am kinda shocked at how he has turned his opinion in the Redskins. God he hated on us so much I honestly quit listening to his show. Now I am a huge FAN OF T-Rock and Patty Kerwin. Those two guys have always brought it in a much different fashion. Much love for Moving the Chains from me.

It all starts up top with having guys like MS and BA in charge. Then adding Donovan back at Easter had more people believing. I have to say it again. The Redskins have spent a ton of time this offseason revamping this football team, and I for one know we will have something to show for it come September.[/quote]

Once Allen and Shanny came aboard you could really sense a change in the way the talking heads look at the organization. Honestly, the "hate" was well deserved with Danny and Vinny in charge. That has definitely changed.

I second that on Moving The Chains. That show should be required listening for all football fans. I could listen to those guys talk football all day long. PK brings it from a GM perspective, and T-Rock the player perspective. Love those guys.