Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=44ever;757069]There is a big difference there! Skins handled it correctly. And gave JZ a chance to plan his next move. JJ handled this with no regard for Wade. Very Low Class Move. If I were a Cowboys fan, I would not feel any better today.[/quote]

Sorry. I'm just not buying that there was anything exemplary about how the Zorn situation was handled last year--by Cerrato or Snyder--or that Jerry Jones has done something that reflects any sort of insenstive shooting from the hip. After last night's game, the sum total of talking head commentary I heard was that Jones had reached a point where he had no choice.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=BringBackJoeT;757072]Sorry. I'm just not buying that there was anything exemplary about how the Zorn situation was handled last year--by Cerrato or Snyder--or that Jerry Jones has done something that reflects any sort of insenstive shooting from the hip. After last night's game, the sum total of talking head commentary I heard was that Jones had reached a point where he had no choice.[/quote]

He has no choice because he can't/won't acknowledge that he is a part (to whatever extent) of the problem. Last year Snyder realized that he was a part of the problem, he stepped back, and let the individuals play out their hands. No it wasn't pretty, but it allowed for clarity of action. Here is a quote from JJ last night:

[quote]"[B]I think there are a lot of people here that certainly are going to suffer and suffer consequences[/B]," Jones said. "I'm talking within the team, players, coaches. They've got careers and this is certainly a setback. I know firsthand what it is to have high expectations. I think that unquestionably our expectations were thinking we were something we were not.

"I've got a lot of work to do, got a lot of decisions to make. And it's not just one, two, three or four. There are several decisions. I think everybody in this country would agree there's a lot wrong with this team that I've got to address, and [B]certainly I'm the one to address them.[/B]" [/quote]
He's not stepping back, and this is not going to go well for them IMO.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=BringBackJoeT;757072]Sorry. I'm just not buying that there was anything exemplary about how the Zorn situation was handled last year--by Cerrato or Snyder--or that Jerry Jones has done something that reflects any sort of insenstive shooting from the hip. After last night's game, the sum total of talking head commentary I heard was that Jones had reached a point where he had no choice.[/quote]

I agree with you here and even Wade said that Dallas played like a poorly coached team. Not sure why anyone would feel sorry for any of these guys who get paid big money to get results. Don't get the results you still get paid but you do get fired.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;757074]He has no choice because he can't/won't acknowledge that he is a part (to whatever extent) of the problem. Last year Snyder realized that he was a part of the problem, [B]he stepped back, and let the individuals play out their hands.[/B] No it wasn't pretty, but it allowed for clarity of action. Here is a quote from JJ last night:


He's not stepping back, and this is not going to go well for them IMO.[/quote]

He did. I thought he brought in people and took parts of Zorns job away over the season.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=firstdown;757076]He did. I thought he brought in people and took parts of Zorns job away over the season.[/quote]

As I understand it, Vinnie brought those guys in. Basically DS said, Vinnie, I have trusted you, do what you think is right. And when it failed, he fired him and brought BA in and let him go from there. If I am wrong about that, then I would appreciate being corrected.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=Riggo44;757003]That really SUCKS!!! I thought he was the perfect coach for Dallas.[/quote]

They keep getting rid of our secret weapons. Roy Williams, Flozell Adams, and now Wade Phillips. Hopefully they keep Alex Barron.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;757077]As I understand it, Vinnie brought those guys in. Basically DS said, Vinnie, I have trusted you, do what you think is right. And when it failed, he fired him and brought BA in and let him go from there. If I am wrong about that, then I would appreciate being corrected.[/quote]

You aren't wrong

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=SouperMeister;757071]I wish our return visit was this week with the disarray that is the Dallas Cowboys. My fear is that they will be playing much better ball late in the year with guys playing to save their jobs.[/quote]

I like the match up even if Romo comes back but Kitna couldn't find an open man and hole to fit it in with Elton John holding his hand.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

I hope dallas goes on a tear...
I hope they win every game left, except the Redskins matchup of course.

Giving them an 8-8 record
no playoffs
mid round draft pick
keeping interim coach J.Jason Garrett as head coach

This would also mean they would have beat the NFC Giants,Eagles twice,Saints and Cardinals and help the redskins :)

This would be a good thing...

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;757054]The cowboys official site is down. [URL="http://www.dallascowboys.com"]DallasCowboys.com - Official Site of the Dallas Cowboys[/URL]. now come on, that's just funny!

edit: they got it back up :([/quote]

I have NEVER once been on their site before in my life (serious) but went there to see if it was down, so I could laugh.

Fun meltdown on there. Under "latest news"....you must read the comments!

[url=http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=29C8214E-A8F9-6B6D-0D4A26F65A7B477C]Don't Forget About These Five Plays[/url]

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=BringBackJoeT;757072]Sorry. I'm just not buying that there was anything exemplary about how the Zorn situation was handled last year--by Cerrato or Snyder--or that Jerry Jones has done something that reflects any sort of insenstive shooting from the hip. After last night's game, the sum total of talking head commentary I heard was that Jones had reached a point where he had no choice.[/quote]

Wade needed to go thats for sure but its the timing thats wrong. Again if I were a Cowboys fan I would feel my intelligence was being insulted. Firing Wade now does nothing but make things more confusing. JJ is not going to scare these guys into playing football.

As far as Zorns situation, I think it was handled as well as it could have been. Everyone knew he would be gone the following season but at least DS showed the restraint of not unleashing his ultimate authority at a time where he had not yet secured other options.

JJ just starts firing people but has no other real plans other than flexing his muscle because thats all he can do to "satisfy" his fan base.

Again I'm glad that this is going on in Dallas and in no way feel sorry for them but I do have to give credit to DS over JJ for the way he handled a similar situation.

Just my opinion. I respect yours as well. Lets enjoy the Cowgirls Circus.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

Zorn made things fun at least. Goofy jokes and press conferences...and THE PLAY.


Wade just looked confused and miserable.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

Look out for jeff fisher too, he has an option on his contract for next year

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=SouperMeister;757071]I wish our return visit was this week with the disarray that is the Dallas Cowboys. [B]My fear is that they will be playing much better ball late in the year with guys playing to save their jobs[/B].[/quote]

Hasn't seemed to stop them from stinking it up so far. At 1-7, I can't help but think things aren't going to get any better. The reality is guys tend to pack it in when things look bleak and with Wade getting the axe the message is clear, season over.

Re: Wade Phillips Fired; Jason Garrett Named Interim Head Coach
 

[quote=Mattyk;757102]Hasn't seemed to stop them from stinking it up so far. At 1-7, I can't help but think things aren't going to get any better. The reality is guys tend to pack it in when things look bleak and with Wade getting the axe the message is clear, season over.[/quote]

I wouldn't be shocked to see a spike in play for a week or two, but I can't see them turning it around in a major way because they will soon be even mathematically eliminated and then their players will be thinking about next season/cba issues, and not going full tilt for a coach that is most likely gone.