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[quote=Dirtbag59;795272]

4. Wait for one of the projects to fall in Kaepernick or Mallet at 41 or hope that Ponder experiences a Colt McCoy like dive.[/quote] Ryan Mallett is project? Do you even watch college football? He's the best passer in this draft.

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I would like it if the Skins would not draft a qb and trade down for more, much needed picks but I am not holding my breath.

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I thought it had been established you cannot trade future picks due to the CBA and lockout.

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[quote=Landry44;795329]Ryan Mallett is project? Do you even watch college football? He's the best passer in this draft.[/quote]

I tend to agree, Mallet is the most plug and play ready out of all the QB's in this draft as long as you can protect him.

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I'd be ok with it for sure. That's why I've warmed up to taking a QB in the 5th round or later. On paper, this team isn't a playoff contender being able to draft any 1st round graded QB in this year's draft.

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[quote=drew54;795334]I thought it had been established you cannot trade future picks due to the CBA and lockout.[/quote]

Current players for picks, no. Players you draft, no. Current and future picks, yes.

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[quote=Mattyk;795140]Not taking a QB at all in this draft?

Research shows that [URL="http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/03/31/use-caution-when-drafting-a-second-round-quarterba"]2nd round QBs have been mostly disappointments[/URL], so unless you get a top flight guy in the 1st round it's basically a waste to take a QB in later rounds.

Do you trust the likes of Grossman or Beck? Or picking up a stop gap veteran such as Hasselbeck?[/quote]

I would be okay with John Beck and a developmental QB like Tyrod Taylor or Ricky Stanzi.

I think that notion that 2nd round picks can't be successful is far more anecdotal then meaningful.

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[quote=Landry44;795329]Ryan Mallett is project? Do you even watch college football? He's the best passer in this draft.[/quote]

I remember the Sugar Bowl.

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Mallett is the most ready to play QB right now, I still think JL will be the Star of the group

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[quote=skinsfaninok;795354]Mallett is the most ready to play QB right now, I still think JL will be the Star of the group[/quote]

Locker has just got Heath Shuler written ALL over him. Mobile, inaccurate, low football IQ. Can't see him all of the sudden becoming a great QB when he never was before.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;795354]Mallett is the most ready to play QB right now, I still think JL will be the Star of the group[/quote]

It could go either way. On one hand you could say that he played in a pro style system and has an NFL ready arm.

On the other hand you could say that his pro style system has failed to prepare any QB for the NFL level, his decision making is suspect, and he doesn't have the mobility to escape the rush.

He'll have to sit for a year or two if for no other reason then to know where everyone is so his inability to avoid the rush doesn't become a liability.

QB's that are NFL ready usually have some sort of mobility or pocket presence that allows them to buy extra time as they learn to read NFL defenses. Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Flacco, Marino, and Freeman all had at the very least decent mobility. And yes Flacco and Ryan both have decent mobility. Mallet has minimal. Short of being protected by the Jets line he'll be a major liability his first year.

In my mind he's a project.


[quote=Paintrain;795356]Locker has just got Heath Shuler written ALL over him. Mobile, inaccurate, low football IQ. Can't see him all of the sudden becoming a great QB when he never was before.[/quote]

Personally, for better or worse, I feel that Mike Vick is a better comparison.

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[quote=Paintrain;795356]Locker has just got Heath Shuler written ALL over him. Mobile, inaccurate, low football IQ. Can't see him all of the sudden becoming a great QB when he never was before.[/quote]

Yeah but Locker is twice the athlete and has a great arm. Hey I agree he's not a guy ready to play until 2012 OR 13 but he's got a huge upside

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[quote=skinsfaninok;795360]Yeah but Locker is twice the athlete and has a great arm. Hey I agree he's not a guy ready to play until 2012 OR 13 but he's got a huge upside[/quote]

Even with that, I'm still not sold. If we draft him, I vigorously hope that I am wrong.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;795360]Yeah but Locker is twice the athlete and has a great arm. Hey I agree he's not a guy ready to play until 2012 OR 13 but he's got a huge upside[/quote]

If the lockout, or the current appeal, causes post draft minicamps and OTA's to be canceled and cuts into training camp time then no rookie QB should play this year until at least week 14. Maybe Newton if he goes number 1 but even then they should have a very simple run heavy system in place for him.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;795360]Yeah but Locker is twice the athlete and has a great arm. Hey I agree he's not a guy ready to play until 2012 OR 13 but he's got a huge upside[/quote]

I would argue that Shuler also was a great athlete and had a great arm. Those two qualities alone do not make for NFL success, as Shuler sadly showed.