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SFREDSKIN 12-11-2011 10:36 PM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
[quote=FRPLG;867253]Are they not QBs in the league? Why wouldn't they count?[/quote]

I'm comparing him to second tier or young QB's, not solid experienced stars. People have been ripping Sanchez, I think he's doing a good job.

Dirtbag59 12-11-2011 11:17 PM

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[quote=Shadowbyte;866732]I understand and partially agree with what you're saying but this hasn't been the case lately. If Tim Tebow never would of won the Heisman ESPN and everyone else wouldn't have sensationalized him to the degree that they did. The same can be said for Matt Leinert. No way would he would of been a top 10 pick if he didn't win the Heisman. Now that the media has gone into hype overdrive Robert Griffin will be the most talked about pick next to Luck, infact this whole draft season will be comparing the 2 non-stop and everyone will give their opinions as to who should draft who and why. It's going to be the lead in story for months to come just you wait.[/quote]

I'd say Tebow was a first round pick because he made Josh McDaniels fall in love with his intangibles and work ethic. Keep in mind Tebow was a college God before he won the Heisman. The ceremony was just a formality.

Matt Leinart on the other hand got picked in the first because he played extremely well in a pro style offense and was a major part in USC winning many big games (which is what got him the Heisman). On top of that Carson Palmer was coming off a pro bowl season, which to some scouts meant that SC's offense prepared QB's for the NFL. Obviously hind sight is 20-20 but on draft day few saw the captain check down party boy surrounded by blue chip talent.

12thMan 12-12-2011 12:32 PM

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Some SC folks I know aren't convinced that Barkley is coming out this year, in fact he might be leaning towards staying. Also LT Matt Kalil staying for another year could make Barkley think twice about leaving.

That said..

If it's between Luck and RG3, I would be shocked if the Colts didn't take Luck with that the number one pick. The Colts are a QB ready system that compliments Luck's skill set and there's no way in hell he unseats Peyton Manning as the starter.

I don't think winning the Heisman caused RG3's stock to rise, but his speech and how he comported himself with class and humility on the national stage probably did, however. I'd be happy with either.

tc2deuce 12-12-2011 12:36 PM

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just look at RGIII background and any team would be sold on him!

Dirtbag59 12-12-2011 02:38 PM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
[quote=12thMan;867407]Some SC folks I know aren't convinced that Barkley is coming out this year, in fact he might be leaning towards staying. Also LT Matt Kalil staying for another year could make Barkley think twice about leaving.

That said..

If it's between Luck and RG3, I would be shocked if the Colts didn't take Luck with that the number one pick. The Colts are a QB ready system that compliments Luck's skill set and there's no way in hell he unseats Peyton Manning as the starter.

I don't think winning the Heisman caused RG3's stock to rise, but his speech and how he comported himself with class and humility on the national stage probably did, however. I'd be happy with either.[/quote]

From what I understand Kalil staying all but confirms that Barkley will stay at SC. Which means next years class will be better.

skinsfaninok 12-13-2011 11:08 AM

Well we can't worry About next years class, the skins need to draft a QB now

freddyg12 12-13-2011 11:15 AM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;867469]From what I understand Kalil staying all but confirms that Barkley will stay at SC. Which means next years class will be better.[/quote]

Dirt, tryin to get someone to take this bait, huh? :)

12thMan 12-13-2011 11:39 AM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;867669]Well we can't worry About next years class, the skins need to draft a QB now[/quote]

True that.

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-13-2011 11:40 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;867469]From what I understand Kalil staying all but confirms that Barkley will stay at SC. Which means next years class will be better.[/quote]

Brilliant. LOL

bigdaddy2348 12-13-2011 01:49 PM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;866719]My question to the forum would be Barkley or RGIII[/quote]

[quote=r08kessl;866720]RGIII by a mile. I would rather see us take a chance on someone that could be incredibly special than using a pick on a QB that's surrounded by first round talent from a program that has a history of producing QB's with overrated NFL potential.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I agree with both quotes. I would like to see who the people want between the two QBs. I would rather see us with RGIII. I don’t trust USC QB's. Palmer is probably the last decent QB they have produced.[/FONT][/COLOR]

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-13-2011 02:03 PM

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I would rather have RGIII also. Take a chance on him. So what if he doesn't "fit" the system right away. Tailor your gameplan to his strengths and watch him shine.

skinsfaninok 12-13-2011 02:10 PM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;867732]I would rather have RGIII also. Take a chance on him. So what if he doesn't "fit" the system right away. Tailor your gameplan to his strengths and watch him shine.[/quote]

this

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-13-2011 02:12 PM

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i think that is the first time we have agreed 100% on something.

skinsfaninok 12-13-2011 02:16 PM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
LOL Just like Skip and Stephen A Smith

skinsfaninok 12-13-2011 02:17 PM

Re: RGIII Heisman Winner
 
We have to take RGIII if he's there, Why in the world would a team DESPERATE for a QB for decades pass on a Legit Baller at the position? I'd be super pissed if we passed on him


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