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SouperMeister 11-19-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1042533]Again though....because of the heavy price that was paid for RG3 that in turn jacks up the pressure. Kaepernick was a 2nd rounder and led his team to the SB. He gets more of a pass this year..... I think.

I don't think the organization is "married" to RG3 if a new coach comes in. That could possibly change everything.[/quote]If a new regime is brought in, you can be sure that the number one criteria that Snyder will consider is their plan for maximizing Griffin's talents.

Lotus 11-19-2013 06:28 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
[quote=davy;1042517]"Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?"

No.

I understand that with the injury and the missed offseason he is still, in practical terms a rookie.

My concern is with his ego. He appears to believe he knows it all despite blindingly obvious evidence to the contrary. Is it possible to improve significantly when you don't believe you need to?

That is my concern.[/quote]

I think that is a fair concern. But note my Cam Newton comment above - if Cam can learn to rise above his narcissism to be productive in year three, so can RGIII IMO. Perhaps the off season will include some helpful RGIII soul searching.

MTK 11-19-2013 07:08 PM

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I'm pretty sure Griffin doesn't think he knows it all.

Ego comes with the territory of being a QB.

Chico23231 11-19-2013 07:12 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
I just had a thought, it feels great to finally have a franchise QB. Our problems will take care of themselves much quicker this offseason with the QB question answered. Ill remember this thread next year. The line is going to be wrapped around the building to want to play or coach RG3.

Daseal 11-19-2013 07:23 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
No, I do not unequivocally believe RG3 is our franchise QB. I believe there is plenty of reason to believe that there are cracks in the foundation. He's made poor decisions this year and I'm concerned he may not be the long term answer we thought he would be after a stellar rookie season.

I would also like to say, that I'm not saying RG3 can't develop into a top QB in this league. All I'm saying is that the debate is still open for him being a franchise QB. I believe missing this offseason hindered his development more than anticipated. Not as much the preseason as the repetition and learning that takes place during the offseason. I still think RG3 is recovering from the knee injury and is not yet 100% physically or emotionally.

JoLo 11-19-2013 07:44 PM

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I want Cousins and our 2 first round picks back.

whistler 11-19-2013 07:46 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
[quote=SouperMeister;1042535]If a new regime is brought in, you can be sure that the number one criteria that Snyder will consider is their plan for maximizing Griffin's talents.[/quote]

Yes, he can be a franchise QB. It would be nice if he stays here, that there is better than poor to fair talent around him. Griffin cannot be expected to be 75% of the offense on a weekly basis. A somewhat sophisticated passing scheme would help the QB and enable a decision on whether you have a "franchise" QB or not. Does anyone know if there are audibles and or any decisions made at the line of scrimmage? It's kind of hard to be a "franchise" QB if your not "coached" to be one.

DynamiteRave 11-19-2013 07:58 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
[quote=JoLo;1042540]I want Cousins and our 2 first round picks back.[/quote]

lol are you that over it?

NYCskinfan82 11-19-2013 08:05 PM

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Yes.

Chico23231 11-19-2013 08:20 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
Gotta say its tough to develop a pocket passer when he doesn't have a pocket to stand in. I can't more disappointed in out interior oline. Talking heads keep saying it because he's not a run threat this year, but damn our line did an excellent job pass blocking last year. Gotta build around him with an oline and a couple receivers.

HailGreen28 11-19-2013 08:48 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
[quote=JoLo;1042540]I want Cousins, and our 3 first round picks and 1 second round pick back.[/quote]Fixed it for you.

punch it in 11-19-2013 09:12 PM

It doesnt matter what I believe or want. I want to wear my number 10 jersey every game day for the next 10-15 years while Griff wins championships for the Skins. Who doesnt?
The fact of the matter is that the guy is human, and he may or may not have a great career.
There are alot of things that could prevent that, injury? Coaching? Weapons around him? Protection around him? Scheme? Most importantly - what the young 23 year old kid has inside of him in the way of ability and smarts? We havent seen a whole hell of alot of him yet.
Only time will tell at this point, but I feel a hell of alot better still with our current QB than I have since I watched number 7 all those years ago.

ram29jackson 11-19-2013 09:57 PM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
he's not bad at all...he's number 8 over all in passing Yard leaders as an individual QB...he isn't the problem.

he does what he

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingYards/year/2013/seasontype/2]2013 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

GTripp0012 11-20-2013 01:09 AM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
I have seen teams mismanage their best assets before, so nothing is decided at this point. But I'd bet on Griffin before any other young quarterback, including Luck.

ram29jackson 11-20-2013 01:36 AM

Re: Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;1042571]I have seen teams mismanage their best assets before, so nothing is decided at this point. But I'd bet on Griffin before any other young quarterback, including Luck.[/quote]

that's a bit ridiculous. Luck is a proven commodity I wouldn't want to pass on


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