Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1062506]From what I have read, the guy is not just a good signing talent-wise, he is a solid character guy. What makes you think the guy is even a prospect for character flags other than "He's not a superstar on a bad team so he really has no place with us."?

By calling this a good signing, I don't think anyone is saying "Wohooo!! Superbowl here we come!!" More like "Cool, solid guy, looks like he can help and is a younger alternative to, and possible improvement on, Moss."

You're right though. The first announcement should have been that we traded our next three first round picks for Revis Island.[/quote]

Pretty sure he was talking about Britt.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=Mattyk;1062508]Pretty sure he was talking about Britt.[/quote]

Yeah it was Britt but I confused at first too.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=GTripp0012;1062437]Roberts at this price will be a much stronger addition a year from now when Garcon is a cap casualty. Assuming the Redskins aren't done signing receivers (spoiler: they aren't), his reps are going to be tough to come by this year.[/quote]

Really? What would make you think our only weapon Garcon will be cut in a year? If that comes off a certain way its not im just curious.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

Hes an upgrade over Aldrick... Depth signing...

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

roberts is a solid signing. i doubt it's more than 3-4mill guaranteed, so it's low risk.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

and anyone that thinks garcon is getting cut next year is some kind of crazy. unless you're planning on lead-piping his knee or some such.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=That Guy;1062523]and anyone that thinks garcon is getting cut next year is some kind of crazy. unless you're planning on lead-piping his knee or some such.[/quote]Or understand how backloaded deals affect the cap.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=Skins4L;1062517]Really? What would make you think our only weapon Garcon will be cut in a year? If that comes off a certain way its not im just curious.[/quote]There's a new coaching staff, who isn't going to hold onto a player just to hold onto a player. If you can get the same production for half the price, they'll do it.

Yeah this is just another guy imo

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Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=GTripp0012;1062525]Or understand how backloaded deals affect the cap.[/quote]

yeah, its more cap related than performance related. Gruden is a fan, if Garcon plays well, you can always iron out a backloaded deal.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=GTripp0012;1062525]Or understand how backloaded deals affect the cap.[/quote]

His deal isn't a cap killer, nor is it a backloaded deal in the sense of skyrocketing cap charges. His base salary, dead cap and cap savings per year of his deal is :
Year
2012 $2,100,000 $13,100,000 ($8,400,000)
2013 $5,600,000 $8,800,000 ($615,625)
2014 $7,100,000 $6,600,000 $3,100,000
2015 $7,100,000 $4,400,000 $5,300,000
2016 $7,600,000 $2,200,000 $8,000,000

That's a consistent base salary, which indicates a team is looking to count on him, and not be forced into a decision based on outrageous base or cap numbers.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1062536]His deal isn't a cap killer, nor is it a backloaded deal in the sense of skyrocketing cap charges. His base salary, dead cap and cap savings per year of his deal is :
Year
2012 $2,100,000 $13,100,000 ($8,400,000)
2013 $5,600,000 $8,800,000 ($615,625)
2014 $7,100,000 $6,600,000 $3,100,000
2015 $7,100,000 $4,400,000 $5,300,000
2016 $7,600,000 $2,200,000 $8,000,000

That's a consistent base salary, which indicates a team is looking to count on him, and not be forced into a decision based on outrageous base or cap numbers.[/quote]Can save $5.3 million to release or $7.5 million with a post June 1 designation.

$5 MM AAV can get you a better receiver than Garcon on the open market in most years. Plus: they're going to draft someone from a loaded WR class who is going to need someone to get released from the rotation in order to get increased reps.

It's a no brainer.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

Glad you are not in FO Gtripp. I am going to walk away. have a great day.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

[quote=Chico23231;1062529]yeah, its more cap related than performance related. Gruden is a fan, if Garcon plays well, you can always iron out a backloaded deal.[/quote]If Gruden is a fan. Gruden came from Cincinnati, where he had AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Mohammad Sanu, and Andrew Hawkins. He's going to try to put something similar together here, and that gets a lot easier when Garcon isn't hogging $9 million on the cap.

He's a necessary part of this year's roster, so I'm not suggesting that Gruden can't wait to get Garcon out of town. I just think the offense is going to be Jordan Reed-centric because...well, obviously.

Re: WR Andre Roberts has agreed to deal with Redskins
 

Well if Gruden [I]continues[/I] to be a fan. He's stated he showed film of Garcon to his receivers and has stated such.