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[quote=Lotus;1093169]Colt Brennan would have won four Super Bowls by now!

oh, you mean that Colt...nevermind.[/quote]

Longing for Pineapple Jesus!

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I honestly believe Snyder has a bullseye on his back for not changing the teams name. That's were a lot of this locker room divided bs stems from and he forced Griff back in crap imo. RG3 looked healthy to me

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Haven't actually seen the latest presser by Jay, but there are reports of a couple of interesting quotes.

1. The jury is still out on the qb situation.

I read that as one of many brutally honest statements by coach.

2. He was defending Haz.

I havent actually seen the presser but that would seem to place the blame on the players.

I was curious to see the blitz % was about the norm compared to other games, Dallas excluded. I am curious what the breakdown would be 1st half very 2nd half.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1093173]Haven't actually seen the latest presser by Jay, but there are reports of a couple of interesting quotes.

1. The jury is still out on the qb situation.

I read that as one of many brutally honest statements by coach.

2. He was defending Haz.

I havent actually seen the presser but that would seem to place the blame on the players.

I was curious to see the blitz % was about the norm compared to other games, Dallas excluded. I am curious what the breakdown would be 1st half very 2nd half.[/QUOTE]
Reading the excerpts on Twitter, doesn't sound like Gruden was defending anyone.

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[quote=Rotten1980;1093141]The problem is if you list the "fails" or reasons for losing the game, RG is at the bottom. Gruden is more responsible, by a long way, simply because he's the HC. But more specifically here because Gruden still hasn't called an offensive game worthy of a win. Has Morris got over 20 carries in a game yet? Who the hell called a dink and dunk pass play right before the half?

You don't see great coaches call that shit. Most would pound the rock, but if you do pass it's downfield so if intercepted the opponent has a long field to go. If Gruden is learning, it's very slow at this point.[/quote]


Not sure how you got "RGIII is the reason for the loss" out of that post. That post had nothing to do with the loss, but a observation on Robert's need to shut out criticism and stop trying to be liked so much.

First and foremost, the defense failing is the major reason we lost to the Vikings. Giving up 30 points to a rookie QB that hasn't done shit the entire year is inexcusable, and 26 points should be enough to win a game.

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No, I think Gruden's thing is to spread the blame to all. He defended Haz in the face of a pretty harsh question about firing Haz now. No head coach would throw his DC under the bus like that.

He did say that they still blitzed quite a bit, but that the LB blitzes didn't get home for some reason. Also, one problem was that they lost containment a number of times, something they didn't do against the cowboys. But he said they wanted to show some coverages to the rookie and see what he'd do--obviously, he did well.

One big thing I took from the presser was Gruden urging that we need to stay together as a team, and the what he's looking for is competitors who will continue to fight their way out of this. I think Gruden is a good guy and has the makings of a good coach. But it's a hornet's nest in DC for a number of reasons. Hope the guy gets the support he needs and doesn't burn out or get fired early. That's as much of the root of our problems as anything, IMHO.

We were a friggin 3 win team last year. No magic words will change us instantly into a contender. 5-6 wins is a good season in my book, so long as we see some progress with the team, particularly at QB. We've only been blown out of one game. The rest we were in and killed ourselves, mostly. That's fixable. Not sure if Haz is the guy, but I feel like Gruden has the stones to do it, given the chance.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1093162]Admittedly, I don't read every post carefully, but are people STILL saying Snyder made Griff start?

If I'm going to throw my conspiracy theory out there, I think if anyone did, Allen did.

But this all seems silly, Griff is the #1, he needs to be starting anyway. I was hoping it wouldn't be until after the bye, but it is what it is. Dude played above average for having only played ONE game all year. So eh, f it.[/quote]

You think Allen would make that call on his own? Like Shanahan said last year, Snyder doesn't really care what you do at the other positions but he damn well be part of the decision process at QB

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Seeing the Giants get crushed would be sweeter had we won yesterday. Sigh. It's like Alice in Wonderland- jam yesterday and jam tomorrow, but never jam today.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1093178]You think Allen would make that call on his own? Like Shanahan said last year, Snyder doesn't really care what you do at the other positions but he damn well be part of the decision process at QB[/quote]


That's so Danny boy can make his bags of gold off the jerseys/tickets the QBs sell.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1093178]You think Allen would make that call on his own? Like Shanahan said last year, Snyder doesn't really care what you do at the other positions but he damn well be part of the decision process at QB[/quote]

Again, "part of the decision process" is fine. The man writes the checks. Everyone on the team and in the front office is [I]his [/I]employee. As long as he is not "Jerry Jonesing" and/or otherwise cutting the legs out from under the coach, I am okay with him saying to Gruden "Look, this is the franchise guy, he starts unless you can tell me a real good reason he doesn't."

If Gruden is saying "No way, no how should we be starting Griffin b/c [whatever reason given]" and Snyder is over riding him that's one thing. I just don't get think Gruden is saying that.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1093174]Reading the excerpts on Twitter, doesn't sound like Gruden was defending anyone.[/quote]

First paragraph says he was defending Haz

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=12613]NFL Jay Gruden says defensive issues plentiful - ESPN[/url]

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1093216]First paragraph says he was defending Haz



[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=12613]NFL Jay Gruden says defensive issues plentiful - ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]


He clearly states that scheme wise they could have done better. I dont think he is defending Haslett as much as he is blaming the players as well as Haslett. Like the Redskins....a weak defense.
Either way that guy is gone for good by next year. Hopefully sooner.

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The skins roster isn't very good. Gruden is 50/50 run/pass for the season also.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1093216]First paragraph says he was defending Haz

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=12613]NFL Jay Gruden says defensive issues plentiful - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I don't care what that article says. I watched both the post game and day after presser and he didn't defend Haslett. He simply stated that you can't point all that was wrong on one person. (haz)

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As usual, Keim nails it:

[quote]On Sunday, the first sack, by rookie Anthony Barr, wasn’t a matter of Griffin holding on to the ball too long. He was down in 2.2 seconds. It was a matter of Minnesota overloading a gap inside and running back Roy Helu being unable to slow Barr.

Another time Helu couldn’t stop Chad Greenway on a sack that took 2.8 seconds, although Griffin could have unloaded a short crossing route to tight end Jordan Reed. He might not have picked up a first down on third-and-8, but it would have avoided a fourth-and-18 punt from the Redskins’ 10-yard line.

Interior pressure on second-and-16 on the final drive tested Griffin in the pocket. Saying what he should have done is a lot easier than knowing how to do it in the pocket, and every quarterback runs himself into a sack sometimes. But he tried to step through an area where he had no chance and was sacked.

The Redskins have a group that is not great in protection -- it’s not just the line -- in front of a quarterback who will hold on to the ball longer. It’s a tough mix. Both sides need to help each other.[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/12590/film-dont-lie-redskins-2?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]The Film Don't Lie: Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]