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FrenchSkin 09-21-2021 07:53 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
Week 1 Steelers @ Bills is a fun game to watch if you like tough defensive football.
14 of the Steelers' 23 points came on: a blocked punt in the redzone returned for 6; and an incredible and kinda flukish TD catch by Diontae Johnson, DB tips the ball and he stills makes the catch, TD set up by a long DPI on 3 down from the 50.

So, I really don't see us winning this game, but, things that give me a [I][U]little bit of hope[/U][/I]:
-It is possible to put [I][U]Allen under a lot of pressure[/U][/I], Pittsburg did it, so if our DL wants to prove they are actually top 5 in the NFL, now is the time.
-[B][U]Heinickeee[/U][/B]

Things that [I][U]I already feared[/U][/I]:
-Very tough, disciplined and [I][U]complete defense[/U][/I]
-[I][U]Fierce DL[/U][/I], Taylor will have to make plays on the run
-Josh Allen can throw and so far [I][U]we haven't proved we can handle mobile QBs well[/U][/I]...

One [I][U]scary thing that I discovered[/U][/I] watching the game:
-The [I][U]Bills running game is legit[/U][/I]. Singletary has really good vision and ability to make a lot with very little space. Gap responsibility by our front 7 will be key.

Chief X_Phackter 09-21-2021 10:13 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
Here are a few stats I pulled through the first two games. Obviously a small sample size and different opponents. This could be the best offense Buffalo has faced so far, and the best defense WFT has faced so far.

Honestly, if the defense plays to their ability, this should be a win. However, if the defense plays like they have the first two games, it's a sure loss.

[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]

Points: WFT 46 / [B]BUF 51[/B]
Yards gained per pass attempt: [B]WFT 7.0[/B] / BUF 5.3
Yards gained per rush attempt: WFT 4.3 / [B]BUF 4.7[/B]
Yards per play: [B]WFT 5.6[/B] / BUF 4.8
Total yards: WFT 666 / [B]BUF 685[/B]
Percentage of drives ending in an offensive score: [B]WFT 50%[/B] / BUF 37.5%
Average points scored per drive: [B]WFT 2.3[/B] / BUF 2.13
Percentage of drives ending in a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 12.5%

[U][B]Defense[/B][/U]

Points allowed: WFT 49 / [B]BUF 23[/B]
Yards allowed per pass attempt: WFT 6.6 / [B]BUF 3.8[/B]
Yards allowed per rush attempt: WFT 4.4 / [B]BUF 3.6[/B]
Yards allowed per play: WFT 5.7 / [B]BUF 3.7[/B]
Total yards allowed: WFT 815 / [B]BUF 468[/B]
Percentage of drives allowing a score: WFT 55% / [B]BUF 17.4%[/B]
Average points allowed per drive: WFT 2.45 / [B]BUF 0.7[/B]
Percentage of drives forcing a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 8.7%
QB Pressures per drop back: WFT 25.3% / [B]BUF 33%[/B]
Missed tackles: [B]WFT 6[/B] / BUF 18

CRedskinsRule 09-21-2021 10:33 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1291726]Here are a few stats I pulled through the first two games. Obviously a small sample size and different opponents. This could be the best offense Buffalo has faced so far, and the best defense WFT has faced so far.



Honestly, if the defense plays to their ability, this should be a win. However, if the defense plays like they have the first two games, it's a sure loss.



[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]



Points: WFT 46 / [B]BUF 51[/B]

Yards gained per pass attempt: [B]WFT 7.0[/B] / BUF 5.3

Yards gained per rush attempt: WFT 4.3 / [B]BUF 4.7[/B]

Yards per play: [B]WFT 5.6[/B] / BUF 4.8

Total yards: WFT 666 / [B]BUF 685[/B]

Percentage of drives ending in an offensive score: [B]WFT 50%[/B] / BUF 37.5%

Average points scored per drive: [B]WFT 2.3[/B] / BUF 2.13

Percentage of drives ending in a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 12.5%



[U][B]Defense[/B][/U]



Points allowed: WFT 49 / [B]BUF 23[/B]

Yards allowed per pass attempt: WFT 6.6 / [B]BUF 3.8[/B]

Yards allowed per rush attempt: WFT 4.4 / [B]BUF 3.6[/B]

Yards allowed per play: WFT 5.7 / [B]BUF 3.7[/B]

Total yards allowed: WFT 815 / [B]BUF 468[/B]

Percentage of drives allowing a score: WFT 55% / [B]BUF 17.4%[/B]

Average points allowed per drive: WFT 2.45 / [B]BUF 0.7[/B]

Percentage of drives forcing a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 8.7%

QB Pressures per drop back: WFT 25.3% / [B]BUF 33%[/B]

Missed tackles: [B]WFT 6[/B] / BUF 18[/QUOTE]6 missed tackles? Where is the stat for missing in action?

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FrenchSkin 09-21-2021 11:14 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1291726]Here are a few stats I pulled through the first two games. Obviously a small sample size and different opponents. This could be the best offense Buffalo has faced so far, and the best defense WFT has faced so far.

Honestly, if the defense plays to their ability, this should be a win. However, if the defense plays like they have the first two games, it's a sure loss.

[B][U]Offense[/U][/B]

Points: WFT 46 / [B]BUF 51[/B]
Yards gained per pass attempt: [B]WFT 7.0[/B] / BUF 5.3
Yards gained per rush attempt: WFT 4.3 / [B]BUF 4.7[/B]
Yards per play: [B]WFT 5.6[/B] / BUF 4.8
Total yards: WFT 666 / [B]BUF 685[/B]
Percentage of drives ending in an offensive score: [B]WFT 50%[/B] / BUF 37.5%
Average points scored per drive: [B]WFT 2.3[/B] / BUF 2.13
Percentage of drives ending in a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 12.5%

[U][B]Defense[/B][/U]

Points allowed: WFT 49 / [B]BUF 23[/B]
Yards allowed per pass attempt: WFT 6.6 / [B]BUF 3.8[/B]
Yards allowed per rush attempt: WFT 4.4 / [B]BUF 3.6[/B]
Yards allowed per play: WFT 5.7 / [B]BUF 3.7[/B]
Total yards allowed: WFT 815 / [B]BUF 468[/B]
Percentage of drives allowing a score: WFT 55% / [B]BUF 17.4%[/B]
Average points allowed per drive: WFT 2.45 / [B]BUF 0.7[/B]
Percentage of drives forcing a turnover: [B]WFT 10%[/B] / BUF 8.7%
QB Pressures per drop back: WFT 25.3% / [B]BUF 33%[/B]
Missed tackles: [B]WFT 6[/B] / BUF 18[/quote]

Bills' D didn't allow 23 points, 7 of those came from a blocked punt ;-)

Interesting compiling though, thanks.

AnonEmouse 09-22-2021 12:57 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1291727]6 missed tackles? Where is the stat for missing in action?

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Agreed in that you have to be in position to make a tackle (not running down field after their QB), it's worth noting that to my mind, we've improved on tackling since last year. No more (or at least few) throwing themselves at BC's feet etc. I like watching St Juste play because he's a sure tackler.

Always believed that without sound fundamentals then it's so much harder to build a strong D. Now that includes gap assignments, so we're not there yet, but personally I believe this D can only get better over the coming weeks.

skinsfaninok 09-22-2021 04:23 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
Bills -8? I'd take that

SunnySide 09-22-2021 05:12 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1291815]Bills -8? I'd take that[/quote]

Give me Skins +8 all day

[url]https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/234494-week-3-wft-at-bills/[/url]

They seem a bit too high on themselves and their 1-1 record.

FrenchSkin 09-22-2021 08:03 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
Nice takes from Mark Bullock on [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-149-film-breakdown-with-washington-football/id1553345193?i=1000536112622"]Galdi's pod[/URL] , I'm thinking of subscribing to his site to have access to his breakdowns, but those are long af, interesting too, but not sure I'd have time to actually read em.

FrenchSkin 09-22-2021 08:08 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[URL="https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1439992221139361793"]Heinicke is number 1 in both PFF's big time throw rate and turnover worthy throw rate.[/URL]

Means he's making the most big gain and/or tight window throws while also making the least plays that couda/shouda been picked/fumbled.

Just a stat, but the narrative that we know for a fact he's not the answer needs to stop.

punch it in 09-22-2021 08:49 PM

WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
Nobody on this board is going to be happy after this game. Our coaching staff is just not good enough. It’s a damn shame too because there is enough young talent on this team to be legitimate contenders for a while.
Do not bet on us to cover. It is not happening.
Bills 38
WTF 23

sdskinsfan2001 09-22-2021 09:00 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1291837]Nobody on this board is going to be happy after this game. Our coaching staff is just not good enough. It’s a damn shame too because there is enough young talent on this team to be legitimate contenders for a while.
Do not bet on us to cover. It is not happening.
Bills 38
WTF 23[/quote]

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/2739Fe1Wj-QAAAAC/whomp-whomp.gif[/IMG]

rocnrik 09-22-2021 10:48 PM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[quote=SunnySide;1291827]Give me Skins +8 all day

[url]https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/234494-week-3-wft-at-bills/[/url]

They seem a bit too high on themselves and their 1-1 record.[/quote]

A buddy I work with asked me today about game .. he is a gambler .. I told him nobody loves the skins more than me however I would bet the HOUSE on the bills at anything under 9 .. he took Bills for a grand ! Guys I’m hoping but this game ain’t gonna be close .. even if The D shows up Taylor is due for a letdown .. I just don’t see this going our way .I thought he was gonna bet like a hundred .. not what he did .. now I’m nervous 😬

FrenchSkin 09-23-2021 12:52 AM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[quote=rocnrik;1291840]A buddy I work with asked me today about game .. he is a gambler .. I told him nobody loves the skins more than me however I would bet the HOUSE on the bills at anything under 9 .. he took Bills for a grand ! Guys I’m hoping but this game ain’t gonna be close .. even if The D shows up Taylor is due for a letdown .. I just don’t see this going our way .I thought he was gonna bet like a hundred .. not what he did .. now I’m nervous 😬[/quote]

Haha cool story. He's a grown man though, still rooting for us to pull the upset.
But I agree with you, I don't see how we win this one, and they have the tool to make it ugly.
With a couple of breaks going our way, TH making some plays and the DL finally stepping up big time, we may be able to keep it close.

punch it in 09-23-2021 06:20 AM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1291838][IMG]https://c.tenor.com/2739Fe1Wj-QAAAAC/whomp-whomp.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Like I said do not take the WTF to cover. You will thank me later.

CRedskinsRule 09-23-2021 06:53 AM

Re: WFT vs Bills Pregame Thread
 
This game is just the beginning of the brutal part of our schedule. They need to pull off a win against 2 or 3 out of
Bills
Saints
Chiefs
Packers
Broncos
Bucs

None of those are likely wins, so they might as well get an upset this week just for the hell of it.



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