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Oh! I almost forgot.... Riverboat Ron decided to punt when we were on the Giants' 34.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1332960]That last play was so bad even Dallas and Philly fans are saying we got fucked[/QUOTE]


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Had Mike Florio questioning whether or not this guy is the Tim Donaghy of the NFL. Says there will be a 30/30 on the betting and fixing in the nfl one day. These guys don’t make enough money to look away from a fat paycheck from some wise guy.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1332964]Despite the bs from the refs, if you're going to be a real playoff team you bury the Giants at home. We are not good enough to do that. It's the same old same old.. Heinicke, play calling, Turner, o-line..

Why do you run Samuel into the teeth of the defense and take BR out of the game? How stupid is that? Why does Ron let that happen? That is the dumbest shit ever. Take out BR who is running over the Giants and then give the ball to your 185lb WR to run up the middle. SMH...[/QUOTE]


After he got stuffed twice already. It is mind numbing that with BR and Gibson we ran a wr into the teeth of their defense. Turner wouldn’t be in this league but for his last name.

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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1332989]Oh! I almost forgot.... Riverboat Ron decided to punt when we were on the Giants' 34.[/QUOTE]


For a net gain of 4 yards. Lol. There are so many reasons this awful HC and staff lost that have nothing to do with the refs.

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[quote=punch it in;1332936]Let’s not let Ron off the hook.[/quote]


I don't think anyone is. All of the problems we have now are the same as those we had in the offseason. Thats down to Ron.

We saw enough of Heinicke last year to know who he is, I don't consider him to even be much of a backup option. Given his history, Wentz was bound to miss a few games through injury, so we were going to need a competent backup, Heinicke isn't that.

The lack of depth at CB and LB, Bostic in particular, have been obvious to anyone with eyes who is not in denial. Imagine where we would be if Davis hadn't improved.

The OL was sacrificed to get Wentz, but the other QBs they were after would have cost twice as much, so acting like the cap crunch was an unexpected event is just stupidity or lack of planning

As for Scott Turner, Ron hired him over arguably a better candidate because of loyalty. He helped Ron get fired in Carolina but Rons mindset is he would rather be comfortable with his staff than being critical of their performance. He even gave Turner a contract extension in the off season, Ron most owe Norv big time.

Why is it they need to magically re "discover" the concept of running the ball a couple of times each year, but only after we have lost a bunch of winnable games

It is all down to Ron

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[quote=SunnySide;1332988]Who realistically could we have gotten though?

It was Wentz or Mayfield or Trubisky for us.

Kinda fortunate Stafford and Wilson didnt want to come here.

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Until we solve the QB puzzle, we will forever be a .500 ish at best team.

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I think Carr could be a realistic option and I think hed allow us to run a full playbook. Hes not a top 10 QB but hes "functional"[/quote]

Him or Goff (if Lions draft a guy) would be clear upgrades over what we have.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1332989]Oh! I almost forgot.... Riverboat Ron decided to punt when we were on the Giants' 34.[/quote]

He obviously felt that Slye couldn't make it and had no confidence in the offense. I can't kill Ron for that. He was hoping to pin them inside the 10 and play defense.

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Had Mike Florio questioning whether or not this guy is the Tim Donaghy of the NFL. Says there will be a 30/30 on the betting and fixing in the nfl one day. These guys don’t make enough money to look away from a fat paycheck from some wise guy.[/quote]

That’s probably the best shot I’ve seen of the missed PI. Wtf, the guy literally on his back

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Slye has a perfect last name. He is shifty, he has made some big kicks, but I still don't trust him. Him kicking a FG is almost as nerve wracking as Heinicke throwing the ball more than 10 yards.

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[quote=Chico23231;1332997]That’s probably the best shot I’ve seen of the missed PI. Wtf, the guy literally on his back[/quote]

Even before the ball got anywhere near Samuel he was grabbing him. That was illegal contact before it was even pass interference. He commited 2 penalties. WE GOT FUCKED.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1333000]Even before the ball got anywhere near Samuel he was grabbing him. That was illegal contact before it was even pass interference. He commited 2 penalties. WE GOT FUCKED.[/quote]

Sure were, but doesn't alter the fact that it is 2022 and average NFL offences score 30 on teams like the Giants so they are not dependent on officials calling the game correctly (or honestly) at the end. We are reliant on favourable refereeing decisions to win, and you know that is no way to win

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1333002]Sure were, but doesn't alter the fact that it is 2022 and average NFL offences score 30 on teams like the Giants so they are not dependent on officials calling the game correctly (or honestly) at the end. We are reliant on favourable refereeing decisions to win, and you know that is no way to win[/quote]

Yeah, we lost by just about every controllable and non-controllable way possible. Defense had some hiccups, but 13 points is 13 points, so they did their jobs.

But everything else we did, and the referees, were complete failures.

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I dont think we need to say more....

JP Finlay on Twitter
Brian Robinson got 4 carries in the second half of that game. Antonio Gibson had 1 second half carry.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1333007]I dont think we need to say more....

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Brian Robinson got 4 carries in the second half of that game. Antonio Gibson had 1 second half carry.[/quote]

Trying to watch a game with Scott Turner calling plays:

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1332985]I think they've been pretty good this year on 3rd down conversions, but that brought up horrible memories of years past never being able to get off of the field. Just no respect for our team, and they were right, it worked easily.[/quote]

Hats of to Daboll. Looking at the situation, up 7-3 headed into two minute drill and getting the ball back to start the third. The safe play is punt knowing you are likely keeping the lead. The Giants have played pretty conservatively all season. You were going to have to beat them they weren't going to beat themselves. The way I see it a high risk move like 4th and 9 at the 35 couldn't have been that risky, they saw something they knew they could exploit.