Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=LadyT]Can't believe what Gibbs said about Royal. Why such loyalty to a player that has never really produced? He can't block and can't catch passes so why he is playing at all? It's amazing - he yanks Ramsey for turnovers, yet praises Royal, who couldn't catch a pass if the ball had sticky glue on it.

This kind of stuff just makes me sick and very discouraged about the Skins prospects for now and the future.

Many on this board preach that we should support the coaches, no matter what. Sorry, I just can't do that 100% of the time. Not when I read Gibbs praising a player of Royal's less-than-mediocre calibre.[/QUOTE]

Gibbs isn't going to blast one of his own players or coaches in public, he keeps everything in house where it should be.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

The most effective message Gibbs could send is to relegate Royal to second string if he continues to drop easy passes.

Royal deserves a second chance this week. But, if he drops even one pass against the Rams, he needs to sit on the bench.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

As I like to say with kickers...let him get a real job. He can get up and go to work like the rest of us. The NFL is a rough business and they are paid to produce. He's a smart guy, he can get a desk job like the rest of us. He catches a football and bloscks like the rest of us would!

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=Hog1]Will you lead the parade, step up and state JUST AS EMPHATICALLY that you were summarily, completely wrong about Gibbs and company when they reach the level of success we have ALL waited for?[/QUOTE]

Don't hold your breath.

If I'm wrong though, I'll happily eat an entire bucket of crow.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=celts32]As I like to say with kickers...let him get a real job. He can get up and go to work like the rest of us. The NFL is a rough business and they are paid to produce. He's a smart guy, he can get a desk job like the rest of us. He catches a football and bloscks like the rest of us would![/QUOTE]
Good point. When I worked as a journalist, if I made four errors in one day, I would have been suspended and not allowed to write stories for 90 days.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

Robert Royal is worthless. He is like a golfer with the yips on short putts. He can't make a catch. It's mental. Put anyone else in there. I think teams purposely leave him open because they know he is going to drop the pass.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=hail_2_da_skins]Robert Royal is worthless. He is like a golfer with the yips on short putts. He can't make a catch. It's mental. Put anyone else in there. I think teams purposely leave him open because they know he is going to drop the pass.[/QUOTE]

Royal has had 2 very bad games; the first one was against the G-men (but then again, everyone had a bad day then) and the second one was, of course, against the Chargers. I'm not going to base my evaluation of a player on one or two games.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Oh sure, thank 12th Man for quoting me, but don't thank me. No fair...I WANNA BE YOUR BEST FRIEND!!!!! :screama:[/QUOTE]

Easy boys, easy.....there's enough of me to go around:)

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=Hog1]Will you lead the parade, step up and state JUST AS EMPHATICALLY that you were summarily, completely wrong about Gibbs and company when they reach the level of success we have ALL waited for?[/QUOTE]

Would be happy to. However, like everyone else, I'm still waiting for that to happen. And waiting, and waiting, and waiting . . . . .

Right now, I see a team that is struggling (to put it mildly), just as they have been struggling for the past 10 years or so. I don't know that Gibbs can (for a second time) be our "Miracle Worker". You seem convinced that he will do it, so perhaps your crystal ball is clearer than mine. I hope to God you're right because I'm sick and tired of losing.

However, at what point do we begin to wonder if not even Joe can "right the ship"?

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

Royal might have embarrassed himself just a little sunday but[url="http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php/i432_shockeyshocked.gif"] this guy [/url]takes the cake
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Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Gibbs isn't going to blast one of his own players or coaches in public, he keeps everything in house where it should be.[/QUOTE]

I don't expect Gibbs to blast him publicly and I've always respected Gibbs for not doing that to his players. Yet, why go out of his way to praise him when there's nothing to praise?

If he were truly concerned about Royal's play, he should have said nothing at all to the press and certainly not praised him as he did. Based on what Gibbs did choose to say, I can only conclude that he likes Royal and likes what he's seen from him. Just can't understand what he's seeing that the rest of us can't. Or is Royal another one of those players who demonstrates something to the coaches that the rest of us mere mortals just can't see?

All I know is what counts is production on the field and, in that arena, I see Royal as a big zero.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=12thMan]Easy boys, easy.....there's enough of me to go around:)[/QUOTE]

You're so dirty. :spank:

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=LadyT]I don't expect Gibbs to blast him publicly and I've always respected Gibbs for not doing that to his players. Yet, why go out of his way to praise him when there's nothing to praise?

If he were truly concerned about Royal's play, he should have said nothing at all to the press and certainly not praised him as he did. Based on what Gibbs did choose to say, I can only conclude that he likes Royal and likes what he's seen from him. Just can't understand what he's seeing that the rest of us can't. Or is Royal another one of those players who demonstrates something to the coaches that the rest of us mere mortals just can't see?

All I know is what counts is production on the field and, in that arena, I see Royal as a big zero.[/QUOTE]

Maybe he's trying to give Royal's confidence a boost since Royal probably feels pretty terrible about his performance.

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

[QUOTE=LadyT]Would be happy to. However, like everyone else, I'm still waiting for that to happen. And waiting, and waiting, and waiting . . . . .

Right now, I see a team that is struggling (to put it mildly), just as they have been struggling for the past 10 years or so. I don't know that Gibbs can (for a second time) be our "Miracle Worker". You seem convinced that he will do it, so perhaps your crystal ball is clearer than mine. I hope to God you're right because I'm sick and tired of losing.

However, at what point do we begin to wonder if not even Joe can "right the ship"?[/QUOTE]

You sound like Tony?
To the point.............I, like you have been waiting lo' these many years since Joe left in 92' for another winner. Still waiting. But, I am for the first time in those years seeing dramatic signs of recovery.
If you think about all of Joe's press outings when he came back, and today (when asked). he describes the jobs as "building a team". His expectations for his 5-year deal are "putting a team in place that will be competative for years to come". "Returning the Skins to respectability". I personally have no problem with this. It takes some time to undo 12 years of chaos! The staff is making the right moves. The team is much improved. We can play (and have) with all comers. This is not a bad team! Neither is it a complete team. For now it is a work in progress. We are definately having probs putting people away. That is not a wholesale kind of change. That is a few personnel moves, and a few tweaks her and there. I am sure they will try to accomplish this in the off season. Gone are the Danny off-season (florida marlins comings and goings). How much negative crap do you hear out of the players-not much. How many players complain about the staff?
Struggling, HELL NO! GROWING??? HELL YES!!!!!!!!! Since Jack Pardee is not available, I prefer to "trust in Joe" Don't forget to smell the roses

Re: (Merged Thread) Robert Royal
 

You're absolutely right! I don't see the animosity and lack of trust that we had when Schotteheimer was here, nor the complete confusion and helplessness of the Spurrier era. I get the strong impression that Gibbs will NEVER GIVE UP until he has done all he can. Although I'm disappointed in the drop-off over the last few weeks, I'm glad we're at least competitive. In the next year or two, we could win the division, and when we're playing at our best, we can certainly take any team in the East at this moment.