Tillman is a great hero. He really speaks to what makes this country great. He could have had a plush life with a fat contract in the NFL, and instead he gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country.

We are all in his debt, as well as to the other courageous men and women who defend this country.

Like most of you when I saw the news on Pat Tilman's death today I was upset by it. I think we can all appreciate his love of country and his desire to be part of something far greater than himself.

I know there are a few others that post here often like me that are in the military. We all know of the possiblility that this may happen to us but it is an accepted part of life. I ask that we all take pause to reflect on the sacrifices being made everyday by our brothers and sisters fighting "over there."

Oh, one last thing... I believe the quote listed below rings true -- especially today...

Gentlemen,

This thread started as tribute to a man who measured courage and conviction in much different way than most. Please let it remain so. Enough on the virtues of war and peace. Daseal, Ghost, SkinsFan and I are having a most interesting discussion on these issues in the Parking Lot, check out our threads there and comment appropriately.

In this thread, can we simply remember a man who laid his life down for his convictions and offer support to his family.

Thank you.

I agree JoeRedskin, well said.

great find DBB with the petion. I agree with matty and joe, we need to leave our personal beliefs on the war out of this and just pay our respects to Mr. Tillman and our other fallen countrymen and women.

I also don't know about the rest of you, but I agree with the idea spoken about on "around the horn" on espn, of Tillman getting an honorary induction into the hall of fame for his selfless courage and sacrifice.

Right on, JoeRedskin. My views can be seen there, but a man died. I don't think anyone lacks respect for the service he paid to our country, which everyone is in debt for.

RIP

Disgusting

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People are unbelivable. People profiting off this kids death, its freaking rediculous.

Can't say I'm surprised. I remember after 9-11 people were hawking all sorts of stuff. Sad.

Human nature. Can't wait for the draft tomorrow ... this is one of my favorite days of the year. I just wish we had more picks.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Disgusting

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not only is it disgusting that those things r up for auction but also that people r bidding on them. and did i see correctly that one of the items has a bid of 40,000 dollars?

Unfortunately, dignity is not for sale on ebay. If it were, there would clearly be a number of interested buyers.

That petition was an excellent find. if anybody hasn't signed it, they should. Hopefully his family and friends will read some of the inspiring comments made.

I saw the ESPN thing on Tillman,his wife and family. Wow!!! I would like to say thank Mr. Tillman for looking out for us all!!! I have family in the middle east in the Army Rangers and we as a family know all to well we to could get the dad news the Tillman's got. My prays are with thier family and all the brave men and women over fighting for our country. No matter how you feel about what is going on over there. When it is all said and done it is each person and thier family that pays the cost!!! If 9/11 said anything it was we can not put our head in the sand and hope this will go away. Thank you Mr Tillman for you watch!!!

Arizona shows some class. Just check out their web site now.
[url]http://www.azcardinals.com/[/url]

peace